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Thread: Do you think Nikki Haley should discuss killing of 32 Palestinian protesters by Israel?

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    Do you think Nikki Haley should discuss killing of 32 Palestinian protesters by Israel?

    After she is done with discussing Iran protests at UN, do you believe US tax payers funded Nikki Haley should discuss killing of 32 Palestinian protesters by US tax payers funded Israeli forces?


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_5RqvKEcX0



    Israeli troops kill 32 Palestinians, injure hundreds as Gaza border protests resume



    • 32 Palestinians were killed over the past week and at least 200 injured on Friday by Israeli gunfire
    • Israel has come under international criticism for its use of force
    • Israel said it acted in self defence and that many killed were militants


    They said the demonstrators, including two teenage boys aged 16 and 17, were killed at protest sites along the frontier during a round of daily demonstrations that began on March 30 and are known as "The Great March of Return".

    Gaza health officials said a well-known Palestinian journalist also died from a gunshot wound sustained while covering the demonstrations.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-0...otests/9628602


    US blocks UN call for independent probe of Gaza protests
    16h ago


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    I would rather she shut up and resign, but if she is going to open that hole in her head, she should at least acknowledge then back us away from the conflict. For starters...

  4. #3
    She will not resign and probably will not be allowed to discuss this killing of unarmed children at UN by her political slave masters.

    Incidentally, credit to media owners for very proportionate coverage of this bloodbath relative to Parkland school shooting. Natural response as victims in two cases are of different nationalities, races, locales and tax payers financing situation of arms used in the two cases. MSNBC, though not hardcore neocons, had almost complete blackout in today's coverage.

  5. #4
    Well, that's what matters: proportional responses. Let's wait until all the facts are in.

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Well, that's what matters: proportional responses. Let's wait until all the facts are in.
    Good point.
    Although it may take a while before the investigations are completed and all the facts are in.

    For Second Week, US Blocks UN Call for Investigation Into Gaza Violence
    Haaretz 8h ago
    Tear gas fired by Israeli forces passes through smoke created by Palestinian protesters burning tires during clashes along the Gaza-Israel border on April 6, 2018.SAID KHATIB/AFP

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...ence-1.5978089



    Unless Trump dispatched his widely respected son-in-law Kushner to another mideast peace finding mission.

  7. #6

    With "liberals" like these, who need blood thirsty neocons.
    That said, there are no reports in MSM saying that Pelosi conveyed Trump's or Hillary's authorization of such firing by Israeli snipers at civilians of non-chosen races.


    Pelosi and 9 Dems had ‘excellent meeting’ with Netanyahu even as Israel sent ‘dozens of snipers’ to Gaza

    US Politics Philip Weiss on April 4, 2018 43 Comments

    Israeli forces, prepared to shoot Palestinian protesters in Gaza.


    Dems meeting Netanyahu on March 26, 2018 are left to right, Jimmy Panetta (D-Calif.), Ambassador David Friedman, Rep. Jim Himes (D-Conn.), Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.), Katherine Clark (D-Mass.), Netanyahu, Donald McEachin (D-Va.), Pelosi, Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), and Jamie Raskin (D-Md.)

    Last Tuesday March 26, Nancy Pelosi led a delegation of ten House Democrats to Israel, where most of them met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu tweeted that night that he’d had an “excellent meeting” with the congresspeople.
    At that time, Israel was already planning to shoot Palestinians in Gaza at the Land Day demonstration on Friday: “dozens of snipers will be deployed along the Gaza border,” the army announced that same day.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/04/excell...nyahu-snipers/









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    Seven things you need to know about Israel’s latest attack on Gaza

    Michael Lesher on April 5, 20181. Israel’s killings were premeditated.


    2. Israeli violence had nothing to do with “security.”

    3. There were no “clashes.”


    4. Israel targeted its victims for political reasons.


    5. Israel commits its crimes because the U.S. lets it.

    Like other bullies, Israel fights only where it cannot lose. At the United Nations, it reverts to the role of toady and lets Uncle Sam do the slugging. U.S. Ambassador (and former Confederate flag booster) Nikki Haley, who says she dislikes bullies, displayed her true passions at the Security Council over the weekend as she swooned over this latest proof of Israeli manhood. The normally voluble Ms. Haley has so far been unable to catch her breath sufficiently to issue a public statement, but on Washington’s orders she did manage to squelch a draft resolution that would have urged “restraint” and an “investigation” into the circumstances of the civilian deaths. As Karl Rove once reminded a reporter, neither facts nor law have any bearing on those favored by the American titan: “When we act, we create our own reality.”


    6. Mainstream media, and Jewish organizations, assist in the cover-up.

    The proliferation of apologetics in mainstream media for Israel’s deadly violence has been so instantaneous, and so nauseating, that I will only sample the field briefly. Sticking to the liberal end of the spectrum, one finds Ha’aretz‘s Amos Harel lamenting that “Hamas…has found a more effective way of creating friction with the Israel Defense Forces than firing rockets and carrying out attacks through its tunnels.” (How nasty of those Palestinians to get themselves killed just to ruin the mornings of some IDF brass!) In fact, Harel notes, the Gazans have proved so treacherous that “despite the large number of Palestinian casualties not a single rocket has been fired into Israel from the Strip.” What’s a besieger to do? The more lopsided its violence, the easier it is to hurt poor Israel’s feelings.


    7. Israel’s crimes will continue until we make it stop.


    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/04/things-israels-latest/

  8. #7
    no. these are violent riotors that profess to want to destroy Israel and kill as many jews as possible and use Gaza as a base to launch attacks into Israel.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    no. these are violent riotors that profess to want to destroy Israel and kill as many jews as possible and use Gaza as a base to launch attacks into Israel.
    Yeah, and the holocaust was real.



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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    no. these are violent riotors that profess to want to destroy Israel and kill as many jews as possible and use Gaza as a base to launch attacks into Israel.
    Seems like a collectivist statement. There are pro-peace, pro-freedom, anti-occupation as well as pro-violence,pro-oppression,crazy religious extremists on both sides it appears ( though US tax payers funds largest portion goes to one side).

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    If such is attitude of a zionist leader towards a US President, what do such believers think about lives of unarmed Palestinians children?

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  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Let's wait till all fruits of peace talks are borne, widely respected son-in-law was on the job:

    Jun 22, 2017
    President Donald Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before beginning peace talks
    A Neville Chamberlain moment, Peace is at Hand.

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  14. #12
    Yea with peace makers like these.. who needs dogmatic bloodthirsty neocons.

    In other news:

    Video shows Israeli sniper shooting Palestinian as soldiers celebrate

    By Oren Liebermann, CNN
    Updated 9:18 AM ET, Wed April 11, 2018

    Video shows Israeli sniper shooting Palestinian 03:47

    Jerusalem (CNN)With international criticism of Israel's response to the Gaza protests growing, video emerged on Monday appearing to show an Israel Defence Forces (IDF) sniper shooting a Palestinian man standing near the border fence.

    After the Palestinian man falls to the ground, soldiers are heard cheering in the background. One yells, "What a legendary film!"
    The video, which circulated on social media, appears to be through a scope, showing the Gaza border fence and a field behind it.
    The sniper is heard discussing the shot with another soldier nearby.
    "When he stops, you take him down," the soldier says. "Are you on him?"
    "I can't fire because of the barbed wire," the sniper responds a short time later.
    "Take out the one in the pink," the other soldier says after a few moments.

    IDF soldiers cheer as you hear the gunshot and see the Palestinian man fall.
    "Son of a bitch!" one soldier, who appears to have recorded the video, yells. "What a legendary film! I haven't seen this kind of thing for a long time."
    A group of Palestinians can be seen in the video running to the fallen man's side and removing him from the field.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/middl...ntl/index.html

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Yea with peace makers like these.. who needs dogmatic bloodthirsty neocons.

    In other news:

    Video shows Israeli sniper shooting Palestinian as soldiers celebrate

    By Oren Liebermann, CNN
    Updated 9:18 AM ET, Wed April 11, 2018

    Video shows Israeli sniper shooting Palestinian 03:47

    Jerusalem (CNN)With international criticism of Israel's response to the Gaza protests growing, video emerged on Monday appearing to show an Israel Defence Forces (IDF) sniper shooting a Palestinian man standing near the border fence.

    After the Palestinian man falls to the ground, soldiers are heard cheering in the background. One yells, "What a legendary film!"
    The video, which circulated on social media, appears to be through a scope, showing the Gaza border fence and a field behind it.
    The sniper is heard discussing the shot with another soldier nearby.
    "When he stops, you take him down," the soldier says. "Are you on him?"
    "I can't fire because of the barbed wire," the sniper responds a short time later.
    "Take out the one in the pink," the other soldier says after a few moments.

    IDF soldiers cheer as you hear the gunshot and see the Palestinian man fall.
    "Son of a bitch!" one soldier, who appears to have recorded the video, yells. "What a legendary film! I haven't seen this kind of thing for a long time."
    A group of Palestinians can be seen in the video running to the fallen man's side and removing him from the field.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/middl...ntl/index.html
    I'm surprised CNN reported that.
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  17. #15
    Interesting contrast, Trump is concerned about plight of Islamic Arab children of Syria and Warren is concerned about Palestinian children:


    As Most Democrats Stay Silent, Elizabeth Warren Calls on Israel to Exercise Restraint Against Palestinian Protesters

    April 12 2018, 11:46 a.m.


    Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., broke with the political establishment and called on the Israeli government to respect the rights of Palestinian protesters in Gaza in a statement to The Intercept on Wednesday.
    “I am deeply concerned about the deaths and injuries in Gaza,” Warren said. “As additional protests are planned for the coming days, the Israel Defense Forces should exercise restraint and respect the rights of Palestinians to peacefully protest.”
    The statement is a sign that the turning tide of opinions on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict within the Democratic Party — which has traditionally been stridently pro-Israel — is trickling up to senior figures in the party. (A recent survey from the Pew Research Center showed that Democrats are almost as likely to be sympathetic to Palestinians as they are to Israelis.) It also signifies Warren’s personal evolution on the issue, as she has not always acknowledged Palestinian rights. In 2014, Warren more or less repeated Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s talking points about the war in Gaza, defending Israel’s right to self-defense against Hamas, even as the military bombarded civilian infrastructure in Gaza. She also walked away when asked a question about Gaza at the liberal Netroots Nation conference that year.

    https://theintercept.com/2018/04/12/...zabeth-warren/

  18. #16
    NP has joined #basta?






    Natalie Portman says, Enough!

    Philip Weiss and James North on April 19, 2018

    The Gaza killings have hurt Israel’s image in the world, and tonight the damage got even bigger. In an astonishing move, the Israeli-American film star Natalie Portman, 36, informed an Israeli foundation she would not show up at the awards ceremony for Israel’s equivalent of the Nobel Prize, because, as the JTA reports:
    The [Genesis] foundation said that Portman’s representative notified it that “[r]ecent events in Israel have been extremely distressing to her and she does not feel comfortable participating in any public events in Israel” and that “she cannot in good conscience move forward with the ceremony.”
    The statement is surely a reference to Israel’s killing of nearly 40 unarmed Palestinian protesters in Gaza, which have shocked Jews around the world.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/04/natalie-portman-enough/



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  20. #17
    not interested in anything spewing out of her pie hole.

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  21. #18
    Nice move, Padme.
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  22. #19
    Ditzy Nikki's Little Stunt.
    Ms. Crocodile Tears Ditzy Nikki Haley won't be holding up any photos of the 50,000 Yemeni children that died as a result of Saudi Arabia, or of Syrian children who died from Washington's "moderate" terrorist rebel army, nor will she hold up pictures of dead Palestinian children. Nope, for Ditzy Nikki Haley, children are only worthy victims if she can exploit their misfortune (real or manufactured) for Neocon agenda. All the rest of the world's children are just unworthy.

    From Consortium News:

    U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley holds up pictures in the Security Council of dead Syrian babies ... Unworthy victims for example are the 50,000 Yemeni children who have died of starvation because of Saudi Arabia’s blockade ... Unworthy victims are blamed for being victims... Unworthy victims have no human rights. Yemen is a humanitarian disaster that is ignored. ... and Washington is helping the Saudi war effort with equipment and logistical support.

    So there is no outrage from the U.S. when Saudi Arabia Crown Prince and defense minister Mohammad bin Salman drops U.S.- manufactured bombs from U.S.-made planes, which indiscriminately slaughter Yemeni men, women and children below. MBS is instead the darling of the neocons. ...

    There is no outrage in the U.S. when Netanyahu and his regime orders Israeli soldiers to massacre them. Hundreds of Palestinians were gunned down on Land Day and during demonstrations ... Four more have been killed today [4/20/18] and hundreds more wounded ... But Netanyahu has every reason to believe that the U.S. will protect him ... Nikki Haley is not going to hold up pictures of dead Palestinian children.

    Instead she will shield Netanyahu from criticism, and accuse his critics of being anti-Semitic. Netanyahu’s victims are unworthy victims. ...

    The Palestinians that have been shot dead in Gaza were inside the Israeli enclosure that has been their prison for over a decade. ... They presented no danger to the Israeli soldiers that were on the Israeli side of the barricade. ... Hundreds of Palestinians were shot with illegal fragmentation bullets ...

    Netanyahu’s orders were illegal and the soldiers followed illegal orders. The Nuremberg Trials declared that “just following orders” is not a defense against war crimes. ...

    Gaza has become an inhumane, open-air prison. ... The people in Gaza have been cut off from the outside world. Israel controls everything and anything that goes in or out. What goes in is barely enough food for Gazans to survive. Netanyahu joked once he put Gaza on a diet. The sick, wounded and dying are not allowed to get out of Gaza to go to a hospital for medical treatment without Israeli permission. Netanyahu rarely gives that permission. Netanyahu’s victims are unworthy victims and are blamed for being victims. ...

    In 2006 Israel tightened the noose around Gaza by imposing a total blockade ... [because] they democratically elected the wrong government, against Israel’s wishes. Instead of electing the Israeli controlled ... Fatah ... Israel used to consider Fatah a terrorist organization, but now it does not because they are collaborators. Instead Israel, which secretly backed the formation of Hamas in a divide and conquer strategy, [now] calls Hamas terrorists. ...

    Israel has killed and wounded journalists reporting from Gaza. They are unworthy victims too. So there’s no outcry from the mainstream media. ...

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    Netanyahu thumbs his nose at international law. The U.S. has vetoed 43 U.N. Security Council resolutions against Israel. ... The U.S. tried to block an investigation by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) of the alleged chemical weapon attack site in Syria. The OPCW says it will investigate anyway....
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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    I would rather she shut up and resign, but if she is going to open that hole in her head, she should at least acknowledge then back us away from the conflict. For starters...
    ^This
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    I would rather she shut up and resign, but if she is going to open that hole in her head, she should at least acknowledge then back us away from the conflict. For starters...
    Never underestimate Trump's ability to replace her with someone even worse. He has a truly amazing track record of that.
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  25. #22
    To give credit where due, US MSM is showing mazing restraint in not covering this violence:


    Palestinian demonstrators carry a fellow protestor suffering from tear gas exposure near the southern Gaza Strip town of Khan Yunis during the fifth straight Friday of mass demonstrations and clashes

    Israeli forces kill four Palestinians, wound 955 at Gaza protest

    Four Palestinian protesters killed and more than 950 wounded as Israeli forces again open fire at Gaza border.

    April 28, 2018

    Israeli soldiers shot dead three Palestinian demonstrators and wounded more than 950 at the Gaza border, despite the UN human rights chief urging Israel to stop using excessive force against Palestinian protesters.

    A fourth victim, a 15-year old boy named Azzam Hillal, died of his wounds on Saturday. He was shot in the head by Israeli military during Friday's protest.
    Among the wounded, 178 were shot with live ammunition on Friday while others sustained injuries from rubber-coated steel rounds, or required treatment for tear gas exposure.

    Thousands gathered in the besieged Gaza Strip for the fifth-straight Friday as part of a mass sit-in known as the Great March of Return movement. Palestinians have been demanding the right to return to their homes seized by Israel in 1948.


    The protests raised the total death toll to at least 45 Palestinian demonstrators, with more than 6,000 wounded since the mass movement began on March 30. There have been no Israeli casualties.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...170725104.html





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  26. #23
    Although people killed not of chosen races but numbers keep piling up:



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