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    Federal Government Jobs Down 13,000 Under Trump

    Federal Government Jobs Down 13,000 Under Trump

    By Terence P. Jeffrey | October 6, 2017 | 9:07 AM EDT

    The number of people working for the federal government has declined by 13,000 in 2017, according to data released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    At the same time, overall government employment in the United States increased by 7,000 as the number of people working at the state government level and the local government level both increased.

    Meanwhile, the significant increase in manufacturing jobs that started last December halted in September as the nation lost 1,000 jobs in that sector.



    “Manufacturing employment was essentially unchanged in September (-1,000),” the BLS said in its monthly employment release. “From a recent employment trough in November 2016 through August of this year, the industry had added an average of 14,000 jobs per month.”

    In December 2016, the federal government employed 2,819,000 people. In September, according to the preliminary numbers released today by BLS, it employed 2,806,000—a decline of 13,000 people employed by the federal government.

    However, while the federal government workforce has declined by 13,000 this year the total number of people working for government in the United States (including state and local government) has increased by 38,000—rising from 22,299,000 in December 2016 to 22,337,000 in September.

    State governments added 15,000 workers—with employment at that level of government rising from 5,085,000 in December 2016 to 5,100,000 in September.

    Local governments added 36,000 workers—with employment in at the local level of government rising from 14,395,000 in December 2016 to 14,431,000 in September.

    Despite losing 1,000 jobs in September, the manufacturing sector has still gained 104,000 jobs in this year. In December, there were 12,343,000 employed in manufacturing in the United States. In September, there were 12,447,000.

    Despite the gain in manufacturing jobs since the start of this year, government jobs continue to massively outnumber manufacturing jobs in the United States. As of September, the 22,337,000 employed by governemt in the United States outnumbrered the 12,447,000 employed in manufacturing by 9,890,000.

    The first time government jobs outnumbered manufacturing jobs in this country was August 1989, prior to that--going back to 1939 (the earliest year for BLS's sector-by-sector employment numbers)--manufacturing jobs had always outnumbered government jobs in this country.
    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...own-13000-year
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    BLS data starting in January 2017 (when Trump took office) through September 2017 (preliminary data for September) using link in the article https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

    January 2017: 2802 thousand Federal government jobs. (2.802 million)

    September 2017: 2811 thousand- an increase of 9,000 Federal government workers during the time Trump has been president.

    (Article starts with December figures- before Trump became president).

    Manufacturing jobs went from 12263 thousand to 12490 thousand.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-08-2017 at 08:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    (Article starts with December figures- before Trump became president).
    The last month he wasn't POTUS. Why do you have a problem with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The last month he wasn't POTUS. Why do you have a problem with this?
    If you want to show changes which occurred while he was in office, you need to start from when he took office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If you want to show changes which occurred while he was in office, you need to start from when he took office.
    You are supposed to be better at this.

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    But the numbers have not gone back up. They might continue to trend downward.
    #NashvilleStrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If you want to show changes which occurred while he was in office, you need to start from when he took office.
    What if they quit because he got elected? I would totally count those.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    But the numbers have not gone back up. They might continue to trend downward.
    They bottomed in March at 2796.0 thousand. Up 15,000 since then.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post


    Your link does not work. I click and get this message:

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    Your request was invalid for this Data Access Service. Please attempt other data requests. Thank you for using LABSTAT.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Your link does not work. I click and get this message:
    Try this one. You will have to scroll down to "Government- Federal" and I chose "not seasonally adjusted" (the first box). Tic the box, then go down to the bottom and click "retrieve data". https://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm

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    For months, President Donald Trump has lagged behind his predecessors in filling presidential appointments throughout the federal government.Vacancies have been particularly acute at agencies like the State Department, but also extend to other departments, ranging from Agriculture and Interior, to Labor and Education.
    In the past the White House has complained that Democrats were slowing the process for confirmations.
    But in many instances, the holdup is not due to Senate inaction but rather the administration's failure for numerous positions to send nominees to Capitol Hill in the first place.

    Now, in a new interview, Trump says this is no accident: he is intentionally declining to nominate candidates as a way to shrink certain agencies, saying "you don't need them."
    "I'm generally not going to make a lot of the appointments that would normally be -- because you don't need them," Trump told Forbes in an interview published Tuesday. "I mean, you look at some of these agencies, how massive they are, and it's totally unnecessary. They have hundreds of thousands of people."

    More at: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politi...-+Most+Recent)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Your link does not work. I click and get this message:
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CEU9091000001

    Last edited by timosman; 10-11-2017 at 01:26 AM.

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    That's like trying to drain a swimming pool with a teaspoon while simultaneously filling it with a hose.

    Let's see where the debt is in another year or so. Best case scenario we surpass 22 trillion by the end of calendar year 2018 and if we finally go into recession it'll be closer to 23 or 24 trillion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    That's like trying to drain a swimming pool with a teaspoon while simultaneously filling it with a hose.

    Let's see where the debt is in another year or so. Best case scenario we surpass 22 trillion by the end of calendar year 2018 and if we finally go into recession it'll be closer to 23 or 24 trillion.
    Agreed, let's wait and see in a years time.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    For months, President Donald Trump has lagged behind his predecessors in filling presidential appointments throughout the federal government.Vacancies have been particularly acute at agencies like the State Department, but also extend to other departments, ranging from Agriculture and Interior, to Labor and Education.
    In the past the White House has complained that Democrats were slowing the process for confirmations.
    But in many instances, the holdup is not due to Senate inaction but rather the administration's failure for numerous positions to send nominees to Capitol Hill in the first place.

    Now, in a new interview, Trump says this is no accident: he is intentionally declining to nominate candidates as a way to shrink certain agencies, saying "you don't need them."
    "I'm generally not going to make a lot of the appointments that would normally be -- because you don't need them," Trump told Forbes in an interview published Tuesday. "I mean, you look at some of these agencies, how massive they are, and it's totally unnecessary. They have hundreds of thousands of people."

    More at: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politi...-+Most+Recent)
    lol ya, not a hint of libertarian in him
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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