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Does that mean you will stand with Rand against Trump trying to use emergency powers for the border wall? I mean you are and Paulbot and not a Trumpbot right?
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sen-...cy-declaration
en. Rand Paul: I support President Trump, but I can't support this National Emergency Declaration
Sen. Rand Paul By Sen. Rand Paul | Fox News
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Sen. Rand Paul says he'll vote to block Trump's border emergency
Congress poised to reject President Trump's national emergency declaration; Rich Edson reports.
In September of 2014, I had these words to say: "The president acts like he's a king. He ignores the Constitution. He arrogantly says, 'If Congress will not act, then I must.'
Donald J. Trump agreed with me when he said in November 2014 that President Barack Obama couldn’t make a deal on immigration so “now he has to use executive action, and this is a very, very dangerous thing that should be overridden easily by the Supreme Court.”
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I would literally lose my political soul if I decided to treat President Trump different than President Obama. (Although, I’ll note, not one Democrat criticized Obama for his executive orders.)
I support President Trump. I supported his fight to get funding for the wall from Republicans and Democrats alike, and I share his view that we need more and better border security.
However, I cannot support the use of emergency powers to get more funding, so I will be voting to disapprove of his declaration when it comes before the Senate.
Every single Republican I know decried President Obama’s use of executive power to legislate. We were right then. But the only way to be an honest officeholder is to stand up for the same principles no matter who is in power.
NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA, 14 OTHER STATES SUE TRUMP IN 9TH CIRCUIT OVER EMERGENCY DECLARATION
I was against foreign aid and foreign intervention without a true national security threat — under Republicans and Democrats.
I’ve stood up and voted against budgets that pile up endless debt and borrow too much — under Republicans and Democrats.
I will stand up for the Constitution, the rule of law, and the system of checks and balances we have — under Republicans and Democrats.
Every single Republican I know decried President Obama’s use of executive power to legislate. We were right then. But the only way to be an honest officeholder is to stand up for the same principles no matter who is in power.
There are really two questions involved in the decision about emergency funding. First, does statutory law allow for the president’s emergency orders, and, second, does the Constitution permit these emergency orders? As far as the statute goes, the answer is maybe — although no president has previously used emergency powers to spend money denied by Congress, and it was clearly not intended to do that.
But there is a much larger question: the question of whether or not this power and therefore this action are constitutional. With regard to the Constitution, the Supreme Court made it very clear in Youngstown Steel in 1952, in a case that is being closely reexamined in the discussion of executive power. In Youngstown, the Court ruled that there are three kinds of executive order: orders that carry out an expressly voiced congressional position, orders where Congress’ will is unclear, and, finally, orders clearly opposed to the will of Congress.
To my mind, like it or not, we had this conversation. In fact, the government was shut down in a public battle over how much money would be spent on the wall and border security. It ended with a deal that Congress passed and the president signed into law, thus determining the amount.
Congress clearly expressed its will not to spend more than $1.3 billion and to restrict how much of that money could go to barriers. Therefore, President Trump’s emergency order is clearly in opposition to the will of Congress.
Moreover, the broad principle of separation of powers in the Constitution delegates the power of the purse to Congress. This turns that principle on its head.
I, and many of my fellow members, called out President Obama for abusing executive authority. President Obama famously said that if Congress wouldn’t do what he wanted, he had his pen and his phone ready. That was wrong. Many of those voting now spent a good portion of their campaigns running ads against these words and actions of President Obama. They will and should be condemned for hypocrisy if they vote to allow this because they want the policy or want to stand with the president in a partisan fight.
Some are attempting to say that there isn’t a good analogy between President Obama’s orders or the Youngstown case. I disagree. Not only are the issues similar, but I think Youngstown Steel implications are even more profound in the case of emergency appropriations. We spent the last two months debating how much money should be spent on a wall, and Congress came to a clear conclusion: $1.3 billion. Without question, the president’s order for more wall money contradicts the will of Congress and will, in all likelihood, be struck down by the Supreme Court.
In fact, I think the president’s own picks to the Supreme Court may rebuke him on this.
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Regardless, I must vote how my principles dictate. My oath is to the Constitution, not to any man or political party. I stand with the president often, and I do so with a loud voice. Today, I think he’s wrong, not on policy, but in seeking to expand the powers of the presidency beyond their constitutional limits. I understand his frustration. Dealing with Congress can be pretty difficult sometimes. But Congress appropriates money, and his only constitutional recourse, if he does not like the amount they appropriate, is to veto the bill.
I look forward to working for a constitutional way to deal with our border security issue.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
I've supported Rand every time he has said that the executive branch has abused its power, only thing I commented on when he said that was he will get attacked for saying this because people voted for Trump because he promised to fix the immigration problem and it was the most important thing to them.
Okay. So we can all agree then that someone can disagree with something Trump does (bumpfire ban by executive order...using emergency powers to get funding for the border wall) and not be a "Bernie Sanders" or an enemy of liberty. Good! That's progress. And for the record, even though I have said this more times than I can count, I don't support Trump being impeached. I think Amash made a mistake. I just don't think the mistake he made went against the fourth amendment. That's it.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Okay. Well I disagree both with Trump's policy on the bumpfire stock ban and his abuse of power for doing it by executive order. Rand Paul disagree's with Trump's policy of sending nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia and threatening war with Iran. Both Rand and I oppose Trump when his policy is wrongheaded and when he's abusing executive power.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Amash waited for the exact right time, the time to unite the left and right in their hatred of Trump, and pooped himself.
The diarrhea ran down his leg, and now the only people left to defend him are a small cadre of trump haters on RPF, and they keep trying to show off all his clean drawers from his dresser.
Too late, when I think Amash, I just think of the big brown greasy splotch in the back of his pants and running down his leg.
And dear god, that stench that will always follow him around now. He smells like the disgusting bums on the left.
All Amash willever be remembered for, no matter how much his bards try to sing of his other feats is....
ignoring the coup based on obvious lies a bs about russia
and trying to further the coup by claiming he sees a technicality, on the part of Trump, ignoring all the blatant, in your face violations of due process by the deep state.
ie
lying by omission.
Amash thinks he is slick. He ain't. Everybody can see the greasy brwon splat on his ass... and certainly everybody can smell it.
But please, tell me more about how clean the rest of his tighty whities are. That'll make me forget the pungent odor and sloppy river running down his trousers.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Yes, it would be great if everybody was like Ron Paul. But I was talking about Justin Amash. Not that he is far off in general.. but where he went off the reservation he was WAYY off base. Maybe he will get re-elected, maybe it will help him get re-elected. In that case, I'm totally ok with it. He knows his district better than me. But if this ends up hurting him or the liberty movement as a whole, that is no good.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
You can't obstruct an illegal investigation because it has no authority, that may not be quite the same as "the fruit of a poisonous tree" but it works out the same.
And impeachment is still bound by the Constitution and the rights of the accused:
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You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
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Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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