We have prinicipled libertarian politicians, is it possible for a principled progressive or principled green?
Ya, if theft is one of your principles..
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Dannno, are you saying that all other political ideologies are the same? So if there are no libertarians running for state rep then they both will have the exact same platform?
Example:
A democrat with a green philosphy and a republican with a neo conservative philosophy running against each other.
Last edited by Mikezelot; 10-16-2017 at 10:15 PM.
More like prestidigitation. You can't be that obvious.Originally Posted by dannno
Where?
Yes, some people are insane enough to believe in anything, they are called useful idiots.
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Huh?
No, I said that you can be a "principled" progressive if you believe in theft. If you are a progressive and claim you believe theft is wrong, then you are not a principled progressive. But if you are a progressive and you claim that theft is "ok" then you might be principled.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Theft is pretty vague to be principled. But with that logic a bank robber is a progressive intellectual?
Huh?
No, a bank robber might be a principled bank robber.. They would have to be a principled progressive to be a principled progressive.. but one of those principles required to be a progressive is that theft is ok.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
That would lead me to ask what is a principled progressive? Is there an exact amount of theft? A principled anarch capitalist would say 0%. What about a principled progressive, 100%?
Is there set principles or are they all pragmatic? Can any other ideology have principles when they are forced to be pragmatic?
Last edited by Mikezelot; 10-17-2017 at 10:50 PM.
If they believe that it is ok to steal from people for the 'greater good' then while the philosophy fails because the individuals are the collective, it is consistent. It's just immoral.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
I appeticiate the follow up answers dannno, so for conclusion it is possible to be a principled progressive.
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