lol, ya, it absolutely does continue until they pass a bill that ends itOriginally Posted by WTLaw
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"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
This could be politically better in the long run. If the republicans simply let obamacare COMPLETELY collapse, unchanged, as it were, then the democrats are solely responsible. Trump could say "We tried to get improvements and tried to do healthcare, but didn't happen, this is on the democrats".
That's how I would spin it anyway...
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As soon as Paul Ryan is out, Trump will be ready to debate health care again.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
He wasted a lot of characters on "exec branch" and "legislative branch."
Those tweets don't indicate that he'll give up on healthcare legislation, only that he'll give up on trying to satisfy conservatives and libertarians with healthcare legislation.
Don't forget, the kind of reform Trump really wants is single-payer healthcare. If he can get behind a bill the Dems support, he'll only need a small minority of Republicans to join them.
And if that is never?
You're like the dennis hopper character in apocalypse now. You would think "he can't be serious", and the truth is, it doesnt matter. Not worth my time trying to figure out if your serious or not.
It happens soon after the vote fails. Trump is setting AHCA up to be a YUUUGE failure.. and it isn't Trump's fault, he did everything he could. He supports Paul Ryan, he supports the bill, he supports the party. Paul Ryan just isn't a good enough leader.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
He has done everything he could to pass it.
When Stef gives Danno permission to change his mind, then Danno will change his mind. Stop rushing him.
That's exactly what I said. That is his plan. But he knows it isn't going to pass, because Rand and other trustworthy folks have told him so.
But it doesn't matter, the blame falls on Paul Ryan for this, not the President.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
If it fails, it fails in Trumps face. Does not help him. Maybe it was Ryan's bill yesterday morning, but after Ryan pulled the vote, and Trump insisted that it be held today, it became his baby.
Besides, Paul Ryan is such a squish he will do whatever Trump tells him. I actually think Ryan would push Randcare if Trump merely asked. He didn't need to bother with this. But he wants this.
Have any Republicans spoken against the bill on the floor yet? I've just popped in and out of CSPAN.
I totally disagree. Trump is pushing Paul Ryan to put up or shut up.
And again, Trump knows it is going to fail. He has been talking to Rand three times a week, one on one, and Rand said there is no way it is passing, it doesn't have the votes. So why would Trump do this if it was going to blow up in his face? He is doing it because it is going to blow up in Paul Ryan's face, because that is who is responsible for getting the votes.
Hahhahahhaha.. no.... Paul Ryan is deep state supreme, he will only push what his masters tell him. That is why Trump needs a new speaker asap.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
It does help him if he wants to pass single-payer healthcare.
Stop... stop... my sig can only get so big.
Ya, like I said that was doubling down. I totally expected this kind of behavior, Trump has to SELL IT HARD. He has to push for the bill, support Paul Ryan and make it look like he is unified with the party. Then when the vote fails, it is Paul Ryan's fault. If Trump didn't put 100% of his effort into it, and make it look like he was unified with the party, it would be framed as Trump's fault.Well, I guess that explains why Trump says he will support Ryan even if his plan fails.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Is this "take it or leave it" tactic described in The Art of the Deal?
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I thought he wasn't a politician... Even in your crazy scenario, he still comes out as the biggest politician there is. So he's not working for a good bill, he's working for political capital? Because once he has the power...
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
In my scenario, Paul Ryan gets kicked out as Speaker of the House and we get a good health care bill with real free market reforms. That makes Trump a winner.I thought he wasn't a politician... Even in your crazy scenario, he still comes out as the biggest politician there is. So he's not working for a good bill, he's working for political capital? Because once he has the power...
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Don't hold your breath on this one, dannno- I still want you around.
There is no spoon.
I presumed the sig quotes are always just quotes taken out of context. Ya' still don't get what I said in response to trumpCARE designation by ya'all, huh ?
Do you see the little double arrow next to the person's name at the top of the quote? If you click that it will take you to the post and you can read the context yourself.
any paid shill.. I wish I could just ignore them. Join date Nov2015!!
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