let's hear it. explain why.
Reply With Quote
Site Information
About Us
- RonPaulForums.com is an independent grassroots outfit not officially connected to Ron Paul but dedicated to his mission. For more information see our Mission Statement.
Darrell Castle
Hillary Clinton
Gary Johnson
Jill Stein
Donald Trump
I'm writing in another candidate
I refuse to take part
let's hear it. explain why.
I think I will write in myself. I am the only one qualified to govern me.
...
I think we need another option: I'm voting for more threads like this asking the same question.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Well, some people could have changed their minds after the debates. It happensOriginally Posted by CaptUSA
I'm voting for Gary, same as before. I want to take the biggest bite out of the GOP/Dem oligopoly, and the LP will do that this election.
Besides being open to Weld's gun control proposals, a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for TPP, NAFTA and worse than Merkel style open borders.
A more principled vote for libertarians is to write-in Ron or Rand Paul or vote for Daryl Castle than that know nothing clown Gary Johnson.
Last edited by kahless; 09-30-2016 at 09:17 AM.
* See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
* Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.
Deez Nutz
Man, you Trump supporters really fear the Johnson! It seems almost pathological.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
You mean ideological. If it was pathological fear for Trump I would not be telling people to write-in Ron, Rand or vote for Castle.
* See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
* Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.
It is indeed a strange contortionist ideology that would support Trump but dismiss Johnson. I'm a fan of neither, but it seems like you'd have to ignore a very large piece of Trump's proposals and background while focusing on a relatively small piece of Johnson's proposals if you'd prefer a write-in.
In terms of an over-all liberty scale it goes like this:
Ron-->Rand->Castle-------------------------->Johnson---------------------------------------------------------------------------->Trump-Clinton->Stein
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Agree. I can't understand the hate toward bad, bad, bad, Johnson and the love for Trump, who is a million times more anti-liberty than Johnson.
Last edited by Ender; 09-30-2016 at 11:51 AM.
There is no spoon.
100% agree!
As I've said many times I understand voting for Trump instead of Johnson because you hate Clinton. But if you think Trump is better than Johnson? WTF?
I'm voting for Johnson even though I realize he's not the perfect libertarian. I think it does more good to concentrate the liberty vote, then to spread it around to write in votes. For example I think it does more good if Johnson gets 10% of the vote, compared to Johnson getting 5% of the vote and the other 5% spread around between Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Castle, etc. Nobody is going to notice the write in votes. But if the libertarian guy gets a big chunk of votes, maybe politicians will take notice in the next election and try to cater to them.
Castle. He is the closest to me ideiologically. I have become less and less fond of Johnson.
And well Id rather permanently give up my citizenship than vote for the oompa loomp or queen corruption.
Johnson
The only thing libertarians have to look forward to this cycle is a record turnout for the LP, which will give us all some momentum going forward.
The press it'll generate will benefit all libertarians, whatever their party affiliation or strategy.
Yes, they will take notice and will tell us that his few extra percent will mean the people have spoken in favor of a mandate for Johnson's open borders and trade policies. An immigration policy that will effectively grow the Socialist and anti-liberty movement within the US, therefore ending any majority future for the libertarian or Conservative parties.
Last edited by kahless; 10-01-2016 at 06:34 PM.
* See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
* Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.
Not to mention that Johnson's own VP candidate is pretty sure that Hillary Clinton is the most qualified to be POTUS.
http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/20...ate-bill-weld/
This election cycle couldn't get any more bizarre.
There is only one success -- to be able to spend your life in your own way.
-- Christopher Morley (1890 - 1957)
Not voting Clinton. Not voting Trump. I don't particularly care for Johnson. Everything else is up in the air at this point. I'll know the day I walk in to the booth. And perhaps I won't even do that. Which is where I am headed these days.
Will vote on all local stuff, but then continue to do what I have been doing since 04, and write in a name knowing Michigan doesn't read them.
It doesn't matter though; he's not going to get elected.
Because none of the 3rd party candidates have any chance of winning, it seems to me that concentrating 3rd party votes on a single party would give the best chance of affecting the 2 party system. With that goal in mind, Johnson is the best choice.
You would have to be an authoritarian to even think that the president has the power to do all of that by himself. You are even pushing the symantec fluency idiot argument CTR is selling, now I know you are a Clinton supporter.
See my post #15 above. It is more of an overton window issue. He does not have to win, just be noticed more than past cycles. HRC and Congress will recognize the LP percentage and call it a mandate for open borders and TPP.
* See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
* Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.
Trump !! Because the wall is gonna be at LEAST 30 feet tall !
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
My pronouns are he/him/his
Its a difficult decision. I'm sure you'll make the right decision, when the time comes.
But think about your family?? Your grandkids, their futures?? Many years from now, dying in your bed, watching them live in tyranny, Do you really want to look them in the eye, and tell them you didn't do all that you could? Will you tell them, you would be willing to trade all the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance to come back here, to cast your vote, against your enemies ?And perhaps I won't even do that. Which is where I am headed these days.
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
My pronouns are he/him/his
No
yes, you would. then Gary will have no chance of beating Trump
A vote for Trump makes sense if you are doing it to stop Hillary. If you like him more than Johnson, you may fit in better at therightstuff.
A vote for Johnson makes sense if you think he can win or you want the Libertarian Party to advance.
A vote for Castle makes sense if you know Johnson won't win and or you are in the "he's not a true libertarian" party. I'm in that party myself
Jill Stein is a good choice too. She's promising to give free food, free housing, free utilities, free health care, free college, and all kinds of other free stuff too
If she actually had a chance of winning, she would probably be my 2nd choice.
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
My pronouns are he/him/his
+rep for the in depth analysis of voting tactics & strategy
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
My pronouns are he/him/his
The Orange One!
I'd like to keep my Constitution Party voting streak alive, but they didn't make the ballot in Alabama.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
write in!! don't think they are on the ballot in texas either. doesn't matter to me
Posting Permissions
Connect With Us