VP Pence Walks Out Of Colts / 49ers Game Over Protest

[Ender]

You mean Capitalism? Its pure capitalism.

And can get you in a whole lotta trouble in an unfree society.

[specsaregood]

And can get you in a whole lotta trouble in an unfree society.

And?
You said:

There IS NO CAPITALISM in the US.

Which is a nowhere even near the truth. Its happening all around you in the US every single day, potential "trouble" be damned.

[nikcers]

Which is a nowhere even near the truth.

All trade is free, some trade is more free than others?

[specsaregood]

All trade is free, some trade is more free than others?

Some silly comments are retarded but some comments are more retarded than others?

Are you also claiming there is "NO CAPITALISM in the US"?

[Ender]

And?
You said:


Which is a nowhere even near the truth. Its happening all around you in the US every single day, potential "trouble" be damned.

You can damn something all you want but it doesn't make it a free society when the only "capitalism" is black market". How many people have been jailed for exercising their freedom in health & medicine? Hell, you can't even shave someone's beard or sell lemonade without a friggin' license.

How about we talk about a real republic, real freedom, real capitalism, and free trade instead of living with ObamaCare, the WoD, the MIC, etc., etc,. etc.

[specsaregood]

You can damn something all you want but it doesn't make it a free society when the only "capitalism" is black market". How many people have been jailed for exercising their freedom in health & medicine? Hell, you can't even shave someone's beard or sell lemonade without a friggin' license.

How about we talk about a real republic, real freedom, real capitalism, and free trade instead of living with ObamaCare, the WoD, the MIC, etc., etc,. etc.

Moving the goal posts? You said

There IS NO CAPITALISM in the US.

You didn't say it wasn't a free society. So you backing off that statement?

[nikcers]

Moving the goal posts? You said


You didn't say it wasn't a free society. So you backing off that statement?

you didn't copy his entire post, you are the one moving his goal posts. He clearly defined his comment as delineating a clear difference between crony capitalism and capitalism.

[nikcers]

Some silly comments are retarded but some comments are more retarded than others?

Are you also claiming there is "NO CAPITALISM in the US"?

Crony capitalism gives you monopolies and oligopolies, do you know what black markets give you...? They don't give you free markets.

[Ender]

Moving the goal posts? You said


You didn't say it wasn't a free society. So you backing off that statement?

I said:

There IS NO CAPITALISM in the US. What is called "capitalism" in today's political world, is MERCANTILISM.

And this was caused by a corrupt government run by CRONY-CAPITALISM, which is NOT capitalism in any sense but does give the term a bad rep to the ignorant.

[Ender]

you didn't copy his entire post, you are the one moving his goal posts. He clearly defined his comment as delineating a clear difference between crony capitalism and capitalism.

Thank you.

[anaconda]

Also, his personal experience doesn't matter, he empathizes with the people he thinks are being oppressed by the police. I do the same thing with people who are experiencing war even though I have never seen a day of war in my life. If you are one of those people that cannot put yourself in another man's shoes, then there is something seriously wrong with you.

^This

[Madison320]

You're conflating corporatism and socialism, I totally disagree with how you define socialism. With crony capitalistic corporatism multinational corporations that bid for power control the economy.

What's your definition of socialism?

Here's my definitions:

Capitalism: A system that puts the rights of the individual above the needs of the state.

Socialism: A system that puts the needs of the state above the rights of the individual.

Since crony capitalism is basically redistributing wealth to certain groups, and redistributing wealth is basically putting the needs of the state above the rights of the individual who had his wealth stolen, I lump crony capitalism in with socialism.

The United States government doesn't have the power it just acts as a middle man for corporations to sell access to power.

You got it bass ackwards. The government has the force, not corporations.

[nikcers]

What's your definition of socialism?

Here's my definitions:

Capitalism: A system that puts the rights of the individual above the needs of the state.

Socialism: A system that puts the needs of the state above the rights of the individual.

Since crony capitalism is basically redistributing wealth to certain groups, and redistributing wealth is basically putting the needs of the state above the rights of the individual who had his wealth stolen, I lump crony capitalism in with socialism.




You got it bass ackwards. The government has the force, not corporations.

"In the United States today we have in effect two governments... We have the duly constituted Government.... Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are reserved to Congress by the Constitution." Wright Patman

[jllundqu]

I am first and foremost anti imperialism and everything else comes second. Che fought the Americans and their imperialist ambitions in Cuba and South America like the fighting manic that he is up until his death. THAT IS WHY I HAVE A CHE AVATAR. I hope you can get that through your thick skull

That is the stupidest reason and (non) explanation for the Che avatar I've ever heard. I honestly thought you had that POS as your avatar as a joke. I never in all my years posting here thought you actually respected and admired an outright murderer.

[nikcers]

That is the stupidest reason and (non) explanation for the Che avatar I've ever heard. I honestly thought you had that POS as your avatar as a joke. I never in all my years posting here thought you actually respected and admired an outright murderer.

The reason why I have my Saddam Hussein avatar is purely because he loved Doritos- it has nothing to do with anything else. The reason why I have my Hitler avatar is because he fought against the global banking regime that hamstrung Germany after world war 1 it totally has nothing to do with anything else..

[Brian4Liberty]

The reason why I have my Saddam Hussein avatar is purely because he loved Doritos- it has nothing to do with anything else. The reason why I have my Hitler avatar is because he fought against the global banking regime that hamstrung Germany after world war 1 it totally has nothing to do with anything else..

Wow. That must be one of the .1% of the time that a Hitler analogy was actually accurate and appropriate.

[Madison320]

That is the stupidest reason and (non) explanation for the Che avatar I've ever heard. I honestly thought you had that POS as your avatar as a joke. I never in all my years posting here thought you actually respected and admired an outright murderer.

I agree. He's wrong in so many ways. As I said before "imperialism" is caused by statism so it makes no sense to be in favor of one aspect of statism (socialism) and be against another aspect of statism (imperialism).

Also in reality the citizens of any country run by Che Guevara would be desperately BEGGING to be imperialized by the US. Not that I think US imperialism is a good thing, I'm just putting things in perspective.