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    Post Charlottesville Removes Robert E. Lee Statue That Sparked A Deadly Rally

    Coronavirus must no longer be the overarching thing, business as usual of politics of symbols seems to be resuming after a lull of over a year:




    Charlottesville Removes Robert E. Lee Statue That Sparked A Deadly Rally

    July 10, 2021


    Workers remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from Market Street Park on Saturday in Charlottesville, Va.
    Win McNamee/Getty Images

    The city of Charlottesville, Va., removed a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee on Saturday, toppling a symbol that was at the center of the deadly Unite the Right rally in 2017.
    The statue — along with another of Confederate Gen. Stonewall Jackson that was also to be removed Saturday — will remain on city property until the city council decides what to do with them. Ten groups have expressed interest in the statues, according to a statement from the city.
    "Taking down this statue is one small step closer to the goal of helping Charlottesville, Virginia, and America, grapple with the sin of being willing to destroy Black people for economic gain," Charlottesville Mayor Nikuyah Walker said as the crane neared the Lee monument, the Associated Press reported.

    Charlottesville Mayor Nikuyah Walker (left) speaks to reporters before workers remove a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee from Market Street Park on Saturday.

    The removals were set in motion by a 2016 petition started by a local high school student. The city council voted to take the statues down early the next year, but that action was delayed by a legal challenge that was ultimately rejected by the Virginia Supreme Court this April.
    The statues of Lee and Jackson — and threats to remove them — served as a rallying cry for the far right in the summer of 2017. The tension spilled into violence in the Aug. 12, 2017, Unite the Right Rally as neo-Nazis clashed with counter protestors. One woman, Heather Heyer, was killed when a man drove into a crowd of pedestrians. Dozens of others were injured in that attack and other violence.

    npr.org/2021/07/10/1014926659/charlottesville-removes-robert-e-lee-statue-that-sparked-a-deadly-rally


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Robert E Lee was a Hero.
    I agree.
    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”

    H.L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Robert E Lee was a Hero.
    Quote Originally Posted by cjm View Post
    I agree.


    Absolutely.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    rallying cry for the far right
    Why is there no "far left"?
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Why is there no "far left"?
    There are only two political ideologies:

    "left" and "far right"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Why is there no "far left"?


    Lenin statue in Seattle, USA USSR.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    There are only two political ideologies:

    "left" and "far right"
    And it's time the right accepted that and quit running from the "far right".
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Lewis and Clark had to go as well.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Didn't spark any rally..

    Damned propaganda anyway..


    The police pushed and directed Violent antifa into a Peaceful Rally..

    it is a repeated M.O...
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    The entire article makes no sense . They are removed Sat. but will remain right there until the council decides who they go to . So , not removed ? or removed and moved a few feet over in storage ?
    Do something Danke

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    Come to think of it , not really sure the mayors statement makes a lot of sense .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    The entire article makes no sense . They are removed Sat. but will remain right there until the council decides who they go to . So , not removed ? or removed and moved a few feet over in storage ?
    I'm pretty sure they trucked them off to a city warehouse or impound lot or road crew garage...something like that.

    In other stories you can see them being loaded up on low-boy semis.

    They'll get covered up in canvas, locked up and out of sight, so no fairies or coloreds get triggered by them and there they'll stay, until we restore sanity to this nation and return them to the public square or the revolution succeeds and they get melted down for a statue of Lenin or a memorial to the first trans queeer colored dog catcher of Charlotte.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ch...?ocid=msedgntp

    The Charlottesville, Va., City Council abruptly voted to remove a statue of Meriwether Lewis, William Clark, and Sacagawea on Saturday, the same day statues of Confederate generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were removed from the city.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ch...?ocid=msedgntp

    The Charlottesville, Va., City Council abruptly voted to remove a statue of Meriwether Lewis, William Clark, and Sacagawea on Saturday, the same day statues of Confederate generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were removed from the city.
    They really want to come for Jefferson. It's only a matter of time. Lewis and Clark are just one more step in that direction, since Jefferson commissioned the expedition. Maybe they should just remove UVA since Jefferson created that, too.
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    This fixes nothing.

    Likely already on the list…

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    This fixes nothing.

    Likely already on the list…
    I have no idea who those people are anyway. It needs to be updated, with Trump, Rand, Massie, and just erase the other. Maybe reserve that space for Don Jr
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    Meanwhile, what's become of Lee Park where the statue used to stand?

    It's become a bum camp and open air drug den.

    The past in the United States is a foreign country.

    Don't you feel culturally enriched and progressive, comrade?


    Former site of Robert E. Lee statue at center of new controversy

    https://www.wvtf.org/news/2023-09-28...ew-controversy

    September 28, 2023 at 7:05 PM EDT

    Market Street Park now contains a dozen tents where people have been living, and the neighbors don’t like it. They’ve reported disorderly conduct, drug use and fights – including one stabbing in the area. This month local police have enforced a curfew requiring people to leave after 11 pm, and on September 18th some residents showed up at city council to make what Police Chief Michael Kochis called disgusting and disturbing claims.

    “One of the allegations that was made during the meeting was that our officers have been 'targeting Black, unhoused individuals with violence.'" he told reporters. "Another allegation was that a Charlottesville police officer assaulted an unhoused individual by 'kicking him like a football.'”

    Bodycam video showed patient and professional officers explaining that the park was about to close and giving people time to pack up. One man – who sounded angry – refused to go and was arrested. The local commonwealth’s attorney, Joe Platania, found no evidence of inappropriate police conduct.

    "Mr. Platania and his assistant reviewed the footage and immediately determined that the contact with the individual in question was incidental to the lawful discharge of the officer's duties, reasonable under the law, and did not rise to the level of battery."

    And Kochis insists race was never a factor in asking campers to leave the park.

    “These individuals were white, black and Latino. Officers approached each of them and made them aware of the park being closed and that they would need to be given some time to collect their belongings and leave the park.”

    Kochis said officers would be given additional training on how to deal with people living in public places, but he claimed local police were already compassionate and frustrated by the situation.

    “The officers spoke of the frustration of having to send people on their way with nowhere to go. Our officers are human beings, just like the folks in that park, and their frustration with the systems and programs that continue to fail these communities was palpable, and I share their frustration.”

    He concluded his news conference with a plea of sorts to city council.

    “I’m just going to be frank. I’m sorry, but I’ve worked in two other jurisdictions – the city of Alexandria and the town of Warrenton. Both had a 24-hour shelter with wraparound services, and I’ve never been in a jurisdiction that hasn’t had either.”

    Charlottesville’s main shelter does not permit overnight stays, and a facility operated by the Salvation Army is often full.

    For now, the city’s manager has lifted the curfew so campers can stay.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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