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Thread: POLL: TRUMP SUPPORTERS More Conservative Than Average GOP Voter

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    POLL: TRUMP SUPPORTERS More Conservative Than Average GOP Voter

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...ervatives-gop/
    A new Pew poll shows that Trump supporters are the true conservatives of the Republican party.

    Trump supporters want a border wall and more scrutiny of Muslim migrants and refugees.

    Trump supporters also understand how free trade has destroyed US manufacturing jobs.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ampaign=buffer







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    it might sound strange. I'm very conservative on fiscal issues. but i nonetheless support Trump.
    Why? Because He was attacked by virtually EVERYONE.
    Yea the cynic will say he played the media to fool me. Well still not a reason for liberals and MSM to call Trump a racist. I identify with him because I'm being called a lot of names when proposing myself policy ideas.

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    And Trump is less conservative than the average GOP candidate.

    Someone is getting suckered.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    I think we're going to have to disagree on the definition of the word "conservative", as a majority of the issues listed on the graphics above don't seem that conservative to me. Free trade bad? Immigration bad? Muslims bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    I think we're going to have to disagree on the definition of the word "conservative", as a majority of the issues listed on the graphics above don't seem that conservative to me. Free trade bad? Immigration bad? Muslims bad?
    Immigration <> ILLEGAL ALIENS

    And to allow immigration of any sort from countries who hate ours, is not only not conservative, it's suicide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And Trump is less conservative than the average GOP candidate.
    You seem to be confusing conservatism with neoconservatism.

    Someone is getting suckered.
    Apparently...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    You seem to be confusing conservatism with neoconservatism.


    Apparently...
    No, dear heart, I am not.

    Even the man's slogan is authoritarian. He's going to make America great? Every conservative worth his salt knows that, as Will Rogers said, 'This nation has gotten where it is in spite of politics, not by the aid of it.'

    You seem to be confusing conservatism with authoritarianism. That's hardly unique. But that doesn't mean the millions who have made that mistake weren't suckered into it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    No, dear heart, I am not.

    Even the man's slogan is authoritarian. He's going to make America great? Every conservative worth his salt knows that, as Will Rogers said, 'This nation has gotten where it is in spite of politics, not by the aid of it.'

    You seem to be confusing conservatism with authoritarianism. That's hardly unique. But that doesn't mean the millions who have made that mistake weren't suckered into it.
    Ronald Reagans campaign slogan was "Make America Great Again".



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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Ronald Reagans campaign slogan was "Make America Great Again".
    He didn't say he was going to do it single-handed. He said he was going to get government out of the way so we could do it.

    I remember. I was there at the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He didn't say he was going to do it single-handed. He said he was going to get government out of the way so we could do it.

    I remember. I was there at the time.
    I take your word for it but career politicians need to be eliminated before anything else.
    Last edited by dude58677; 05-12-2016 at 10:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    I take your word for it but career politicians need to be eliminated before anything else.
    Could they possibly be eliminated publically and very painfully so as to dissuade others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Ronald Reagans campaign slogan was "Make America Great Again".
    Reagan was owned by the neocons- he was just charismatic enough to get away with it.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Reagan was owned by the neocons- he was just charismatic enough to get away with it.
    Ron Paul was open with his platform and look where it got him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Ron Paul was open with his platform and look where it got him.
    Thats the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    Thats the point.
    No non-politician other than Dwight D Eisenhower(military general) in more than a century has won a major party nomination till this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    No non-politician other than Dwight D Eisenhower(military general) in more than a century has won a major party nomination till this year.
    Did you think that Ron ran to win?



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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Ron Paul was open with his platform and look where it got him.
    Look at the movement it started. It definitely did something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by younglibertarian View Post
    Look at the movement it started. It definitely did something.
    Yes and Donald Trump is part of the anti-establishment rhetoric.

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    Trump supporters aren't exactly "conservative", they are authoritarian:

    The best predictor of Trump support isn't income, education, or age. It's authoritarianism.

    In the five days leading up to the South Carolina Republican primary I fielded a survey of 358 likely voters, hoping to better understand who supports Donald Trump, why, and what it may mean for the Republican presidential nominating contest.

    What I found is a trend that has been widely overlooked. A voter’s gender, education, age, ideology, party identification, income, and race simply had no statistical bearing on whether someone supported Trump. Neither, despite predictions to the contrary, did evangelicalism.

    Here is what did: authoritarianism, by which I mean Americans’ inclination to authoritarian behavior. When political scientists use the term authoritarianism, we are not talking about dictatorships but about a worldview. People who score high on the authoritarian scale value conformity and order, protect social norms, and are wary of outsiders. And when authoritarians feel threatened, they support aggressive leaders and policies.

    Authoritarianism and a hybrid variable that links authoritarianism with a personal fear of terrorism were the only two variables that predicted, with statistical significance, support for Trump.

    Put simply, Trump won South Carolina because of the overwhelming, unyielding support of authoritarian voters. This chart shows the predicted relationship between authoritarianism and support for Trump. It is statistically and substantively significant — and, as you can see from the upward plot of the line, stunning.



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    http://www.vox.com/2016/2/23/1109964...thoritarianism
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Yes and Donald Trump is part of the anti-establishment rhetoric.
    Say what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Yes and Donald Trump is part of the anti-establishment rhetoric.
    That is debatable. You could argue the same thing about Bernie Sanders.

    Would "anti-establishment authoritarianism" be better then "authoritarianism"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Yes and Donald Trump is part of the anti-establishment rhetoric.
    Yes. Donald Trump is part of the anti-establishment rhetoric.

    Specifically, he's the lightning rod. He is there to attract all of that anger, and dissipate it harmlessly to ground, so the Establishment House does not burn down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677
    Yes and Donald Trump is part of the anti-establishment rhetoric.
    Quote Originally Posted by younglibertarian View Post
    That is debatable. You could argue the same thing about Bernie Sanders.

    Would "anti-establishment authoritarianism" be better then "authoritarianism"?
    I look at it this way: He is part of the "not-a-neocon", or "not-a-globalist", or "not-a-wall-street-whore" rhetoric.

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    Most of these positions are not very conservative.
    "I am a bird"



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    Why do the Bushes hate him? Why does Lindsey Graham the hate him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Immigration <> ILLEGAL ALIENS
    Not true, actually. Words are important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Why do the Bushes hate him? Why does Lindsey Graham the hate him?
    Because he beat them? Because they were told to, to maintain his illusion and allow him to siphon the anti-establishment vote harmlessly away? Because they agree that it's Hilldog's turn, and they know he can do a better job of throwing the election to her, so they're pretending? Because no one will point cameras at them unless they buck Reince Priebus, and they're both attention whores? Because they gambled at one of his casinos once, and lost? Because they wish their own hair was orange?

    Why don't you ask them? And don't say it's because you think you won't get an honest answer. You're taking their word for it that they hate him.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 05-12-2016 at 11:51 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Why do the Bushes hate him? Why does Lindsey Graham the hate him?
    Why does Bolton like him? Why does Cotton like him? Why does Arpaio support him? Why did he appoint Christie to his transition team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    Why does Bolton like him? Why does Cotton like him? Why does Arpaio support him? Why did he appoint Christie to his transition team?
    Why did Goldman Sachs provide him with a finance chairman?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    I heard rumors that he wants Rudy Giuliani (gasp!) in charge of Homeland security.

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