Did Trump cross the line by inviting a foreign leader who called Obama "son of a whore" twice?

[John F Kennedy III]

I understand, I still have a hard time believing that Patrick Swayze and Kurt Russel is not the same person.

Are there know photos of Obama's mother to compare to the pics from Dreams of My Real Father?

[juleswin]

Are there know photos of Obama's mother to compare to the pics from Dreams of My Real Father?

Thats her on the left and Paul McCartney on the right. When you think about it, she looks like a lot of people.

[Anti-Neocon]

The simple fact that thump wishes a self proclaimed hitler "success" in his wiping out of millions of people for a victimless crime is pretty $#@!ing sick to begin with.

No $#@!, if Obama said this the forums would be exploding with anger

[oyarde]

No $#@!, if Obama said this the forums would be exploding with anger

Actually , I would expect Obummer to kill people .

[pcosmar]

What line?

[Danke]

Thats her on the left and Paul McCartney on the right. When you think about it, she looks like a lot of people.

Paul McCartney is a tranny!?

[69360]

The simple fact that thump wishes a self proclaimed hitler "success" in his wiping out of millions of people for a victimless crime is pretty $#@!ing sick to begin with.

Wrong. Using or possessing drugs is a victimless crime. Selling drugs is not. Maybe a case could be made for pot, but meth is the drug of choice in the Philippines and meth dealers do have victims.

[enhanced_deficit]

Cross the line regarding Obama? How is that possible? Based on the precedents by the predecessor, Obama has drawn the line so far to the extreme that one would be hard pressed to find anything that "crosses the line" where Obama is concerned.

Did Obama's murdering a foreign leader (Gaddafi) and all the subsequent resulting deaths and suffering cross the line?
Did Obama's support of a military coup kidnapping the elected president of Honduras cross the line?
Did Obama's support and funding of a coalition of neo-nazi maiden rebels to overthrow the elected government of Ukraine cross the line?
Did Obama's creation of terrorist coalition to overthrow the government of Syria resulting in deaths of hundreds of thousands and suffering for millions cross the line.
Did Obama's illegal invasion and bombing of Syria to oust or kill its elected leader cross the line?
Did Obama's support for the terrorist government of Saudi Arabia cross the line?
Did Obama's support for the Saudi genocide of Yemen currently taking place cross the line?

I am guessing Wilson and LBJ did not get a Peace Prize though ....

I was in "not sure" camp when I first read above news.. but I'm leaning towards "no" now.

[enhanced_deficit]

Ya , If Trump wants to suckle his little brother Duterte , I say let 'em.

Brothers from different mothers, ay

Yes because he's a monster, not because he called Obama names.

Obama had first applauded him and cancelled his handshake meeting with him after he called him names.

It can be argued that some other leaders who routinely meet with US Presidents without much objections are much bigger "monsters", examples:

- DGP, who has been accused of extra-judicial killings of many more innocent including underage children
- Brutal mideast dictators who behead drug dealers and don't let women to drive
- Mideast Freedomers who have been accused of genocide in Gaza

and so on.

What line?

The red line ... of not inviting to White House the guy who called his predecessor "SOAW".

[pcosmar]

The red line ... of not inviting to White House the guy who called his predecessor "SOAW".

Isn't he?
at least by definition.

[Jamesiv1]

Paul McCartney is a tranny!?

#beatlegate

[enhanced_deficit]

I wouldn't say throughly debunked, but definitely questionable.

To be fair , don't think MSM has confirmed these photos validity even if of late MSM credibility has fallen below "fakenews" credibility.

The simple fact that thump wishes a self proclaimed hitler "success" in his wiping out of millions of people for a victimless crime is pretty $#@!ing sick to begin with.

Actions speak louder than words. Who has been responsible for more innocent people's killing in your view, Dute or DGP?

Obama's War Crimes: The U.S. Drone War

No. But he crossed a line by offering support to someone who slaughters users of a certain substance.

Not that I support his tactics but he talked about drug dealers & makers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsqiO2pHKs


If he tomorrow joins neocons war against Syria or Iran, Media would probably portray him a very positive light suddenly and all the blemishes will be in the direction to make him look statesmanly.


DGP not only met but bowed before brutal dictators who beahed drug dealers/torture political opponents/don't let women drive and yet their brutality remains absent from MSM headlines.

[juleswin]

Isn't he?
at least by definition.

What's your definition of a whore?

[pcosmar]

What's your definition of a whore?

The definition is generally one who is paid for sex.

and I believe that would refer to a woman in Porn.

I won't post photos.

but with this years election campaign,, again I ask,,
What Line?

[Jamesiv1]

The only actual quotes that I can find are Duterte saying kill the dealers, not the users:

"At a party to celebrate his election victory in Davao City, where he had been mayor for more than 20 years, the president-elect urged armed citizens to kill drug dealers. "Do it yourselves if you have guns, you have my support," he told them."

""We will not stop until the last drug lord, the last financier and the last pusher have surrendered or [been] put behind bars or below the ground," he said in his first state of the nation address."

Plus, Trump DID NOT wish him success in killing drug dealers, Trump told him "It is good you are behaving like a sovereign nation, instead of acting like Obama's little bitch."

And that is why Trump invited Duterte to the White House - to stick it to Obama.

The bad news is that Trump wants to stick it to Obama so badly, it will probably cloud his judgement and result in some poor decisions.

[misterx]

Obama met with people who said bad things about Trump. What's the difference?

[enhanced_deficit]

Obama met with people who said bad things about Trump. What's the difference?

He even met with people who said bad things about Hillary.

But I digress

On a serious note, one big difference is that Obama is historic first mixed race leader and Nobel Peace prize winner... Trump is not.


Completely Un-related

DOJ Sued for FBI Interview Records with Obama...

[scm]

The only actual quotes that I can find are Duterte saying kill the dealers, not the users:

"At a party to celebrate his election victory in Davao City, where he had been mayor for more than 20 years, the president-elect urged armed citizens to kill drug dealers. "Do it yourselves if you have guns, you have my support," he told them."

""We will not stop until the last drug lord, the last financier and the last pusher have surrendered or [been] put behind bars or below the ground," he said in his first state of the nation address."

Plus, Trump DID NOT wish him success in killing drug dealers, Trump told him "It is good you are behaving like a sovereign nation, instead of acting like Obama's little bitch."

And that is why Trump invited Duterte to the White House - to stick it to Obama.

The bad news is that Trump wants to stick it to Obama so badly, it will probably cloud his judgement and result in some poor decisions.

He didn't wish him success? Are you sure.

"President Rodrigo Duterte said Saturday Donald Trump wished his deadly crackdown on illegal drugs would succeed during a telephone call"

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ccess-43945480

oh and here's where he talks about killing USERS

http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/iq/...-kill-drug-war

https://www.yahoo.com/news/drug-user...110624632.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/01/wo...rugs.html?_r=0

[Jamesiv1]

He didn't wish him success? Are you sure.

"President Rodrigo Duterte said Saturday Donald Trump wished his deadly crackdown on illegal drugs would succeed during a telephone call"

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ccess-43945480

oh and here's where he talks about killing USERS

http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/iq/...-kill-drug-war

https://www.yahoo.com/news/drug-user...110624632.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/01/wo...rugs.html?_r=0

You are quoting what msm, fake news ABC news says he said, instead of the actual quote just a few paragraphs below.

[scm]

You are quoting what msm, fake news ABC news says he said, instead of the actual quote just a few paragraphs below.

This paragraph?

"The other parts of the conversation were not aired in the video but in a statement released by his aides, Duterte said "he was wishing me success in my campaign against the drug problem."

the "campaign" of slaughtering millions.

"He understood the way we are handling it and I said that there's nothing wrong in protecting a country," Duterte said. "It was a bit very encouraging in the sense that I supposed that what he really wanted to say was that we would be the last to interfere in the affairs of your own country."

"handling it", by slaughtering millions of people.

Here from one of your approved sources.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/03/politi...all/index.html

no really. Here pick your favorite "non fake news" source:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=duterte+trump+killings

sorry I couldnt find THUMP bragging about encouring the killings of millions on his "official" twitter YouTube real news source.

[enhanced_deficit]

Isn't he?
at least by definition.

Don't know the answer.
But even if he is, he has to be judged based on his own actions and not of his bringers to the world.

Obama met with people who said bad things about Trump. What's the difference?

This point has been overlooked, DGP not just met with but gave "Freedom Medal" to the guy who called Trump a "pig" and said he would "punch him in the face":



Robert De Niro: 'I'd like to punch Donald Trump in the face' – video
The Guardian-Oct 8, 2016
https://www.theguardian.com/global/v...the-face-video


Obama Awards Medal of Freedom to Robert De Niro
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/......dal-freedom-ro...
Nov 22, 2016

[Sam I am]

A good diplomat is willing to talk with foreign leaders even if they're bad people. Not that I think Trump is a good Diplomat, but being willing to interact with Duterte isn't exactly something I'd hold against him.

[Anti-Neocon]

but being willing to interact with Duterte isn't exactly something I'd hold against him.

Absolutely nobody here is holding "being willing to interact with Duterte" against him. We are holding his verbal support of genocide of drug users against him.

Learn some reading comprehension or something.

[Sam I am]

Absolutely nobody here is holding "being willing to interact with Duterte" against him. We are holding his verbal support of genocide of drug users against him.

Learn some reading comprehension or something.

Well Actually agreeing with Dutere is a completely different matter.

This thread is a poll, and the question is "Did Trump cross the line by inviting a foreign leader who called Obama "son of a whore" tw"

I do not think that it's a bad thing that Trump Invited Dutere to the White Wouse. That does not mean that I automatically agree with every single thing Trump said with respect to Dutere. It does not even meant that I agree with the tings trumps said in that specific meeting that he invited Dutere to.

[oyarde]

Over 80% say no

[enhanced_deficit]

Over 80% say no

Higher than my guess, hopefully this poll is not rigged.


In related, SWC Hillary stood up for DGP:

After insult, U.S. and Clinton call for Duterte to show respect

(Note: paragraphs 1 and 9 contain language that may offend some readers)

The U.S. State Department and Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Tuesday stressed the need for ties with the Philippines to be based on mutual respect, after Manila's new leader raised worries about the future of the key alliance by calling President Barack Obama a "son of a bitch."

Despite U.S. dismay over Duterte's remarks, though, current and former U.S. officials played down the impact, saying they did not expect any serious damage to ties at a time of high tensions over China's extensive territorial claims in Asia.
The State Department said a planned first meeting between Obama and his counterpart Rodrigo Duterte on the sidelines of a regional summit in Laos on Tuesday was canceled because the tone of the Philippine leader's rhetoric raised questions about the chances of productive talks.
"Words matter, and we want to see an atmosphere that is cordial and open to strong cooperation," State Department spokesman Mark Toner told a regular news briefing in Washington.
Clinton, who as secretary of state was an architect of Obama's policy of emphasizing the importance of the Asia Pacific to U.S. interests in the face of a rising China, said Obama was right to cancel the meeting.
"When the president of the Philippines insulted our president, it was appropriate and a very low-key way to say: sorry, no meeting," she told reporters on her campaign plane.

Duterte made the remark about Obama while explaining that he would not be lectured over extrajudicial killings in the war against drugs he has launched since taking two months ago and which has killed about 2,400 people.

He has previously called the pope a "son of a whore" and the U.S. ambassador a "gay son of whore."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-la...-idUSKCN11C2CD

[enhanced_deficit]

It seems like neocons would not be arranging Nobel Peace Prize for him even though he has been accused of violence against drug dealers:

Duterte May Be Guilty of Crimes Against Humanity, Rights Group Says
New York Times-Mar 2, 2017
President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines in Manila in February. Thousands of people have been killed by the police or by vigilantes since ...

[enhanced_deficit]

That was quick, looks like Prez D is coming to the Trump White House and the news "stuns" many and dominates Sunday's news:




New York Times
April 30, 2017


Trump's 'Very Friendly' Talk With Duterte Stuns Aides and Critics Alike

New York Times

- ‎3 hours ago‎

President Trump speaking at a campaign-style rally on Saturday in Harrisburg, Pa. Credit Al Drago/The New York Times. WASHINGTON - When President Trump called President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines on Saturday, the American leader's ...


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EPIC: Duterte invited to the White House!

[Pericles]

Once upon a time, the truth was an absolute defense.

[CPUd]