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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Actually normal people agree with us about controlling the border and limiting immigration.

    You drive away normal people by lumping them in with the alt-right and Neo-Nazis like you are doing to us here, there are significant differences between the controlled immigration members of this site but you just scream "NAZI" at all of us.
    First off, we aren't advocates for a white ethno state or exclusively pro-white policies. I disagree with Paul Nehlen in that regard. I just want to maintain the status quo at the very least and not be overrun by the hordes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    Let's try this again: When did Tulsa call anyone a Nazi, racist, liberal, monkey, kind of ugly, not good at math, or any other name for wanting limits on immigration?
    The conversation that quote comes from was about my comment on this meme that someone else posted:


    It was about immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    First off, we aren't advocates for a white ethno state or exclusively pro-white policies. I disagree with Paul Nehlen in that regard. I just want to maintain the status quo at the very least and not be overrun by the hordes.
    But the leftarian alliance on this site doesn't care about our true positions, they have no good argument for open borders in a Republic let alone one that has a massive welfare state that we can't get rid of so they just scream NAZI.
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  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The conversation that quote comes from was about my comment on this meme that someone else posted:


    It was about immigration.
    Your claim wasn't that he calls names for talking about immigration, but for wanting limits on immigration. I didn't see the quote where he said he didn't like that you want any limits on immigration. To actually demonstrate your spurious claim, you'd have to show that he didn't merely disagree with what limits you support, or how the limits should be enforced, but that he called someone a Nazi, racist, etc. simply for wanting limits. If you can provide a quote I'll apologize and give you a rep, and I'll neg said post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    Your claim wasn't that he calls names for talking about immigration, but for wanting limits on immigration. I didn't see the quote where he said he didn't like that you want any limits on immigration. To actually demonstrate your spurious claim, you'd have to show that he didn't merely disagree with what limits you support, or how the limits should be enforced, but that he called someone a Nazi, racist, etc. simply for wanting limits. If you can provide a quote I'll apologize and give you a rep, and I'll neg said post.
    There was this time when he used "Jingoists" instead of NAZIs:
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Cubans used to be the one kind of foreigner these jingoists loved to death.

    I guess they now hate Cubans because they think America has a Two Tone Antique Car Gap as compared to Cuba.
    That was about this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Wet-foot/Dry-foot does absolutely nothing to screen immigrants by their philosophy, many of the Cuban refugees and their descendants are warhawks that would have us invade Cuba if they could, an unknown quantity are communist spies.

    Even if most Cubans that arrived under Wet-foot/Dry-foot were liberty lovers that doesn't help with those who come here from other countries.
    I know I could find better examples but it isn't worth my time.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There was this time when he used "Jingoists" instead of NAZIs:


    That was about this:



    I know I could find better examples but it isn't worth my time.
    Better examples? You have yet to post any examples of your original claim. I don't give a darn if the name he used was Nazi, racist, jingoist, or stuffed crust pizza. He has never insulted anyone for "wanting limits on immigration." He has insulted people for which limits they want, how they want them enforced, or how they pitch them, none of which is the claim you made.
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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In my heart, I am an Ancap, but my mind lends itself to nationalism as a last ditch measure to prevent the unthinkable.

    I can successfully sell nationalism imbued with a hidden freedom core to the sheep, but I can't sell them naked liberty or freedom.

    Number #1 Rule. Know your audience.
    Number #2 Rule. Be two steps ahead of your enemy
    Number #3 Rule. Don't allow your enemy to use your principles against you in an offensive manner.
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Face it. If we were to adopt the long-held tactics of the libertarian party, the entire US will resemble that of California in a relatively short time frame. There will be no middle class, only polar opposites at the respective ends of the socioeconomic spectrum. A cradle to the grave nightmare of urban plight predicated on suffocating regulatory control. That's the dismal future which the Reason crowd is unknowingly rushing towards.
    "I am an ancap, but only so long as everyone agrees with me. If everyone doesn't disagree with me, then I need a strong government to force them to agree with me."

    -AuH20, probably
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    "I am an ancap, but only so long as everyone agrees with me respects my rights. If everyone doesn't disagree with me, then I need a strong government to force them to agree with me."

    -AuH20, probably
    Fixed it.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Fixed it.
    Fascinating definition of rights that you have there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Fascinating definition of rights that you have there.

    Says one of RPF's anti-liberty posters who despises liberty and has disdain for this site and the people here.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Fascinating definition of rights that you have there.
    I did not provide any definition of rights in that post.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Says one of RPF's anti-liberty posters who despises liberty and has disdain for this site and the people here.
    I wish RPF had a stronger policy against $#@! disturbers.

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I wish RPF had a stronger policy against $#@! disturbers.
    That's a pipe dream. They will never ban NorthCarolina no matter how many times he breaks the forum rules.
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    "ideas have the potential of being more powerful than any army....The concept of personal sovereignty was pulled screaming from the ether into this reality by the force of men believing in a self evident truth, that men are meant to be free." - The Northbreather

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  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    That's a pipe dream. They will never ban NorthCarolina no matter how many times he breaks the forum rules.
    He got temp banned.

    Granted, that was back when AuH20 used to get banned on the regular for far less than what he's doing now, so that era may be over.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    He got temp banned.

    Granted, that was back when AuH20 used to get banned on the regular for far less than what he's doing now, so that era may be over.
    I only got banned because a tiny percentage started complaining to the admin. I've had horrible things said to me personally and not once complained to the staff. That's the first amendment in my eyes.

    ACPTulsa chases me around like a bloodhound with invectives, but that's his right. God bless him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Yes



    (watch from the beginning, if you get bored FF to 53:20 and watch for another 5 minutes or so)
    Cernovich is insufferable. He essentially calls himself alpha every chance he gets. If you must constantly remind everyone how alpha you are...
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    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    That's a pipe dream. They will never ban NorthCarolina no matter how many times he breaks the forum rules.
    wut, didn't even know we had rules.
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    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Cernovich is insufferable. He essentially calls himself alpha every chance he gets. If you must constantly remind everyone how alpha you are...
    He sells a book called "Gorilla Mindset" and several "Gorilla Mind" products. They are good products, but the presentation is part of the branding. He teaches his followers about internet branding and marketing through his actions. All of his content is multi-dimensional. I've found other people find the content hard to grasp without having a lot of context. He does this on purpose because he is trying to both magnetize and limit his audience to the most exceptional and in tuned with what is going on.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    He sells a book called "Gorilla Mindset" and several "Gorilla Mind" products. They are good products, but the presentation is part of the branding. He teaches his followers about internet branding and marketing through his actions. All of his content is multi-dimensional. I've found other people find the content hard to grasp without having a lot of context. He does this on purpose because he is trying to both magnetize and limit his audience to the most exceptional and in tuned with what is going on.
    ? have you been magnetized or something?

    Sure, I understand his company is built around motivational mindset. I also understand you can call yourself an alpha and manage to convince a certain number of people who are desperate enough to believe you. Doesn't mean critics simply aren't "multi-dimensional" enough.

    The point is he takes every opportunity to call himself an alpha, and its not a branding exercise, he genuinely believes what he is saying but in the real world alpha males don't do that.

    Who inspires and motivates more people? Mike Cernovich or The Rock?
    THE SQUAD of RPF
    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    ? have you been magnetized or something?

    Sure, I understand his company is built around motivational mindset. I also understand you can call yourself an alpha and manage to convince a certain number of people who are desperate enough to believe you. Doesn't mean critics simply aren't "multi-dimensional" enough.

    The point is he takes every opportunity to call himself an alpha, and its not a branding exercise, he genuinely believes what he is saying but in the real world alpha males don't do that.

    Who inspires and motivates more people? Mike Cernovich or The Rock?
    Uhhhhhh.....oookkkk



    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  24. #111
    ^^^


    What? His taste in mediocre looking women literally has nothing to do with your original point or mine.

    Are you just offended that somebody criticized him? Come up with a coherent argument or counter, thanks.
    THE SQUAD of RPF
    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    He got temp banned.

    Granted, that was back when AuH20 used to get banned on the regular for far less than what he's doing now, so that era may be over.


    LOL. Says the guy who breaks the rules every day, with every post.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    LOL. Says the guy who breaks the rules every day, with every post.
    My clever use of projection confuses everyone and lets me get away with murder. As you can see nobody is any wiser about what I am really doing here.

  29. #115
    LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    mediocre looking women
    LOL

    So much wrong with this statement.

    First, she isn't a mediocre looking woman..

    Second, if that were simply "his taste" then he would be looking at her in a magazine or something, and not married to her with a child.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    That's a pipe dream. They will never ban NorthCarolina no matter how many times he breaks the forum rules.

    Well, I gave RPF's three most prolific paid trolls a shot. I offered a bet where the loser leaves the forum for good. I did this about 10 times. None took me up on it.

    Now what would a progressive troll possibly have to lose after being on this forum for years?
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 08-08-2018 at 11:43 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Are they paid trolls? Does Morris Dees sign their checks? I'm flattered if that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Are they paid trolls? Does Morris Dees sign their checks? I'm flattered if that's the case.
    No, I don't think they are affiliated with anything like SPLC, some well-known Jewish groups, or Zionist groups. I once thought that, but then noticed that their posts have a definite neutrality or even opposition to Zionism.

    One paid troll is rabidly anti-Zionist, but with a very progressive slant. If I had to guess, then I would be about 80% sure they are with the Open Society Foundations. That group shares some of the views of Zionists, such as globalism and "diversity," but they are not pro-Israel. I don't really know who else but Open Society would spend that kind of money year-after-year.

    If you take time to really read their posts, then all have similar themes. I don't even actually seek out these trolls, but can't help but see the patterns.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 08-08-2018 at 11:57 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I agree with him on some things, but he's raving mad on others. He backs UBI, which will ultimately attract more dependent people that he doesn't like.

    https://www.wnd.com/2018/08/see-top-...s-progressive/
    Of course he is. The Alt. Right is nothing but the Old Left.



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