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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You don't support the border wall? That means you support child sex slavery!

    Seriously, its time for you and @phill4paul to drop the histrionics. The more you two make BS arguments the better the open borders side looks. AF takes a similar position without being an $#@!.


    You do a marvelous job of undermining the open borders side.
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  3. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    We did control immigration. Then we stopped. And we did it without The Great Socialist Wall of America. Those days are gone, over, done. What you're hoping for aint gonna happen, your god Emperor of these United States isn't going to give you satisfaction. Destroying liberty to save liberty isn't going to work. If you want the principles of liberty to be quashed in the name of saving it, all I can say is no.
    Can't really see where importing those that are not bred in liberty, don't care to learn about it, but imminently affect it is a good thing. Care to explain how it is?

  4. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    People used to be able to cross our southern and northern border with ease. If you stayed, then there was a problem. This problem is completely and unnecessarily manufactured, just like the so called solution. It's a $#@!ing crime how far this place has fallen.
    ^This! 1000x this! I would love to see a video of @Swordsmyth going to a Trump rally holding a sign that says CLOSE THE BORDER! but don't build the wall.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  5. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    When illegals used to show up on the job, someone would call immigration services and they would be gone pronto.
    So you would rather have immigration primarily enforced by a domestic police state than at the border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    That stopped, why?
    Liberals and people who loved money more than their country embraced illegals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    What's the end game here?
    Either we control our borders or we become California all over the US.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  7. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Most southerners would not vote Republican for generations because they held the Republican party responsible for the U.S. Civil War. Why would you expect someone from Afghanistan to react any differently from what is seen, rightly or wrongly, as Republican wars in Afghanistan?
    Why should we let them come here and destroy us?
    That is what those who caused the war want.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  8. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Just as I might say Europeans failed to keep out the Huns or the Goths, race had nothing to do with it till you decided to think that way Mr. Racebaiter.
    Not only did the Injuns not have gunpowder but many of them welcomed the whites and were overly helpful, in the end it doesn't matter why they failed to keep out the Europeans, they are an example of what will happen to us if we fail to secure our territory for any reason.
    Right. The man running around talking about "injuns" and making broad generalizations is not the racebaiter. Lie all you want. It's cheap these days.

    Anyway, you think that if the "injuns" had not been "overly helpful" there would have been a different result? Because I don't.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  9. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    People used to be able to cross our southern and northern border with ease. If you stayed, then there was a problem. This problem is completely and unnecessarily manufactured, just like the so called solution. It's a $#@!ing crime how far this place has fallen.
    So you would rather have immigration primarily enforced by a domestic police state than at the border?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  10. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Why should we let them come here and destroy us?
    That is what those who caused the war want.
    Did southerners who went north after the civil war destroy it? Maybe that's not a good question.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  11. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post

    Seriously, its time for you and @phill4paul to drop the histrionics. The more you two make BS arguments the better the open borders side looks. AF takes a similar position without being an $#@!.
    Nice of you to judge us. I'm sure AF is placated. Hey, bud, you started this. I wasn't being histrionic. I was dropping personally heartfelt truth bombs. You were the one that went for the jugular. So, $#@! you. That's about the space I'm in now.

  12. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Can't really see where importing those that are not bred in liberty, don't care to learn about it, but imminently affect it is a good thing. Care to explain how it is?
    You're missing the point, they were imported on purpose. Starting in earnest with GWB but starting before him also. Why? Could it be so people clamor for more government protection? Also, how many new American arrivals (youts) are bred in liberty?
    "The Patriarch"

  13. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Did southerners who went north after the civil war destroy it? Maybe that's not a good question.
    Northerners that went south surely did.

  14. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So you would rather have immigration primarily enforced by a domestic police state than at the border?
    Speaking only for myself I have no problem with police deporting people that they are caught for some crime somewhere in the interior of the U.S. and are found to not be citizens or here on a legal visa. Of course that's an open borders position right?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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  16. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Right. The man running around talking about "injuns" and making broad generalizations is not the racebaiter. Lie all you want. It's cheap these days.
    I use Injuns to differentiate from actual Indians from India, you look to see racism everywhere because crying racist is part of your playbook just like the leftist open borders supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Anyway, you think that if the "injuns" had not been "overly helpful" there would have been a different result? Because I don't.
    It would have been different because the whites never would have had a beachhead but that doesn't matter, the result is what is important, we don't want the same result from allowing too many foreigners to come here and vote us into a communist hellhole.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  17. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    You're missing the point, they were imported on purpose. Starting in earnest with GWB but starting before him also. Why? Could it be so people clamor for more government protection? Also, how many new American arrivals (youts) are bred in liberty?
    And if they are imported on purpose shouldn't they be stopped?

  18. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Nice of you to judge us. I'm sure AF is placated. Hey, bud, you started this. I wasn't being histrionic. I was dropping personally heartfelt truth bombs. You were the one that went for the jugular. So, $#@! you. That's about the space I'm in now.
    LOL. So you go around randomly accusing people of supporting child sex slavery, which is what you freaking did you lying sack of puss, then when someone neg reps you over it you get mad? Ummm...okay.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  19. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Speaking only for myself I have no problem with police deporting people that they are caught for some crime somewhere in the interior of the U.S. and are found to not be citizens or here on a legal visa. Of course that's an open borders position right?
    Yes it is because almost all of them won't be caught doing some other crime and they will stay here and vote and have children who will grow up and vote.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  20. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So you would rather have immigration primarily enforced by a domestic police state than at the border?
    It was and yes. It wasn't a police state unless you were obviously working when you shouldn't be and the borders weren't a $#@!ing Berlin Wall. It wasn't omnipresent and it worked, until it was decided to be neutered from above.
    "The Patriarch"

  21. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I use Injuns to differentiate from actual Indians from India
    LOL

    , you look to see racism everywhere because crying racist is part of your playbook just like the leftist open borders supporters.
    Liar. You were the one that played the race card. You were the one that first accused anyone of being racist. And you are lying about me being open borders. I just don't support a police state.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  22. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    And if they are imported on purpose shouldn't they be stopped?
    Yes. But they aren't, who's fault is that?
    "The Patriarch"

  23. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes it is because almost all of them won't be caught doing some other crime and they will stay here and vote and have children who will grow up and vote.
    Oh. So let me see if I understanding you. Being against sanctuary cities is an open borders position. You are about as stupid as they come.

    So @Swordsmyth. You are against a border wall. You support sanctuary cities. How exactly are you for closed borders?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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  25. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    You're missing the point, they were imported on purpose. Starting in earnest with GWB but starting before him also. Why? Could it be so people clamor for more government protection?
    That just makes the problem worse and the urgency of removing them greater.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Also, how many new American arrivals (youts) are bred in liberty?
    More than foreign the number of youts who are.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  26. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Oh. So let me see if I understanding you. Being against sanctuary cities is an open borders position. You are about as stupid as they come.
    If that is the only enforcement you want it is.
    You are dumber than dirt.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Yes. But they aren't, who's fault is that?
    Does whose fault it is change what should be done about it?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  28. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    A-B-C-D-E-F--- Come on Phill. You can get to G if you keep trying!
    That's not an argument. But, get on with your bad self it it makes you feel better.

  29. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    That's not an argument. But, get on with your bad self it it makes you feel better.
    I was responding to a non argument from you with a non argument of my own.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  30. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Liar. You were the one that played the race card. You were the one that first accused anyone of being racist. And you are lying about me being open borders. I just don't support a police state.
    You started it with this among other things:

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  31. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If that is the only enforcement you want it is.
    You are dumber than dirt.
    A) I didn't say that was the only enforcement I wanted Mr. Liar.
    B) You said you were against a border wall and an "internal police state" (what you called what Originalist was saying) without giving him a chance to explain how he would enforce it.
    C) So far YOU haven't actually said what you would do on the border except "close" it.

    I could be dumber than dirt but still smarter than you.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  32. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Most southerners would not vote Republican for generations because they held the Republican party responsible for the U.S. Civil War. Why would you expect someone from Afghanistan to react any differently from what is seen, rightly or wrongly, as Republican wars in Afghanistan?
    Exactly. Politics over time changes. She's not been here long enough to experience that. She's in direct opposition to the "free state project." Do you think that might be bad. The "free state project" and her ideological beliefs?



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  34. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That just makes the problem worse and the urgency of removing them greater.


    More than foreign the number of youts who are.
    No comprende.
    "The Patriarch"

  35. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    It was and yes. It wasn't a police state unless you were obviously working when you shouldn't be and the borders weren't a $#@!ing Berlin Wall. It wasn't omnipresent and it worked, until it was decided to be neutered from above.
    Then you are in favor of turning a blind eye to most of the invaders with almost non-existent enforcement, the problem was smaller back then so the results weren't as catastrophic as they will be now but lax enforcement back then is one thing that created the situation we now have.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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