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    What Do the Mass Shooters Have in Common? No Father in the Home

    I do believe the Columbine shooters were from an intact families. That said, a strong father figure in the home is vital for both male and female development.


    UPDATE: The article below I wrote over two years ago. Yesterday it happened again, another mass shooting, this time at a high school in Florida. Our thoughts and prayers go out to families and friends of those 17 students who lost their lives. Such a terrible, senseless, tragedy. The very disturbed shooter Nikolas Cruz had been expelled from the school and it was well known that he had a fascination with knives and guns.

    Nikolas and his biological brother were adopted by an older couple when Nikolas was an infant. His mother, Lynda Marie Cruz, was 49 years old and his father, Roger Paul Cruz, was 62. Roger died in 2004, when Nikolas was only 4 or 5. Nikolas’s mother died just a few months ago. Like so many of the mass shooters, young Nikolas grew up without a father in the home and with a fascination for guns.



    Earlier post published October 2, 2015

    The one common thread among all the recent mass shooters is they are children of single of mothers. These young men had no male role models in their homes. For 50 years, our society has encouraged women to be single mothers despite all the research proving it is detrimental to a child to be born into a home without a father. Children born to single mothers are twice as likely to become delinquent.

    Children of single mothers are more likely to be in special education classes in school, more likely to drop out of school, more likely to experiment with drugs and alcohol at an early age, and more likely to become delinquent and to be incarcerated. There are no men on death row from intact families. Children of single mothers are more likely to witness domestic violence in their homes and more likely to repeat the pattern of domestic violence. Children born to a married couple are more likely to attend college, less likely to be abused, and more likely to grow up mentally and physically healthier. A child born to a single mother has close to a 40% chance of growing up in poverty while a child born to a married couple has less than 4% chance of growing up in poverty. Children of single mothers are 14 times more likely to suffer abuse and if the mother lives with a man who is not the father of the child, the chances of abuse increase to 33 times that of a married couple. Worse, the children of single parents are more likely to grow up and repeat the pattern, a pattern that is detrimental to children. Despite what the liberals have told us, children need fathers in their lives and in their homes.

    If we look at the recent spate of mass shooters, they all grew up in single family homes. (Cho at Virginia Tech may have been the exception although he seemed to be missing guidance from either of his parents. They did not seem to have been aware of his problems which began in middle school...
    More at link http://thebullelephant.com/what-do-a...r-in-the-home/


    Something from the 1970s
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to RJB again.

    This is one thing you absolutely will not hear amongst all the caterwauling for gun control. Guns used to be common in schools, what's changed is the family unit. Intentionally. By the very people screaming for gun control.
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    Our modern society is broken. Does anyone really think the lonely, depressed, drugged up kids but 'socially liberated' kids today are happier than the 'oppressed backwards' kids who grew up in the more politically incorrect times?

    Divorce and single parent homes are terrible for all involved, the kids are sad, the moms are lonely, and the dads are going broke from child support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to RJB again.

    This is one thing you absolutely will not hear amongst all the caterwauling for gun control. Guns used to be common in schools, what's changed is the family unit. Intentionally. By the very people screaming for gun control.
    There were guns in most P/U trucks when I was in school...

    Buck 110's were on most kids belts too.

    No such BS as pepper spray and whistles either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    There were guns in most P/U trucks when I was in school...

    Buck 110's were on most kids belts too.

    No such BS as pepper spray and whistles either.
    Yep.
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    They just need a good "pick-up artist."
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Our modern society is broken. Does anyone really think the lonely, depressed, drugged up kids but 'socially liberated' kids today are happier than the 'oppressed backwards' kids who grew up in the more politically incorrect times?

    Divorce and single parent homes are terrible for all involved, the kids are sad, the moms are lonely, and the dads are going broke from child support.
    Yes it is, broken by design, in all the ways the OP and you have mentioned.

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    Is this just referring to the school shootings specifically? I'm not sure for example this fits the Florida Night Club shooter or the guy in Las Vegas.



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    Psych drugs .

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    Michael Carneal, the Paducah shooter was from an intact family, had some mental illness, heavily influenced by video games and Stephen King novels. From one article at the time I seem to recall he had never shot an actual gun before, but learned how from video games. Very little is published about him or his family, but one of the guns seems to have been stolen from his father's closet.

    Of the Jonesboro shooters, Golden was from an intact family, Johnson had men in his life, including a stepfather with whom he was close. These guys were just children when they pulled a fire alarm and killed a teacher and four classmates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Psych drugs .
    ALL of them..
    And under the care of a trained Professional.

    It is that trained Professional that needs examination in every case..

    That is your "Handler". The source of Hypnotic drugs and Hypnotic suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Michael Carneal, the Paducah shooter was from an intact family, had some mental illness, heavily influenced by video games and Stephen King novels. From one article at the time I seem to recall he had never shot an actual gun before, but learned how from video games. Very little is published about him or his family, but one of the guns seems to have been stolen from his father's closet.

    Of the Jonesboro shooters, Golden was from an intact family, Johnson had men in his life, including a stepfather with whom he was close. These guys were just children when they pulled a fire alarm and killed a teacher and four classmates,
    That doesn't change any of this:


    63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes
    90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
    85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes
    80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes
    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes
    75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes
    85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes.




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    The fact is many more of them came from fatherless homes than not, a few examples to the contrary doesn't change the fact.
    Last edited by Origanalist; 02-17-2018 at 10:00 AM.
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    Many things have changed over the years, many of them probably contributed to these shootings:

    - Fatherless homes.
    - Psych drugs.
    - Media publicizing shootings, immortalizing shooters and keeping score.
    - Violent movies and television.
    - Social media (Facebook, etc.).
    - Violent first person video games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Michael Carneal, the Paducah shooter was from an intact family, had some mental illness, heavily influenced by video games and Stephen King novels. From one article at the time I seem to recall he had never shot an actual gun before, but learned how from video games. Very little is published about him or his family, but one of the guns seems to have been stolen from his father's closet.

    Of the Jonesboro shooters, Golden was from an intact family, Johnson had men in his life, including a stepfather with whom he was close. These guys were just children when they pulled a fire alarm and killed a teacher and four classmates.
    This is not a father.

    The current wallet with a dick isn't a substitute for a child's father...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    This is not a father.

    The current wallet with a dick isn't a substitute for a child's father...
    Some people confuse "father figure" aka teacher- coach- state with the real thing.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Some people confuse "father figure" aka teacher- coach- state with the real thing.
    Some people consider fathers replaceable...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Many things have changed over the years, many of them probably contributed to these shootings:

    - Fatherless homes.
    - Psych drugs.
    - Media publicizing shootings, immortalizing shooters and keeping score.
    - Violent movies and television.
    - Social media (Facebook, etc.).
    - Violent first person video games.
    Very good summary of a number of different possible causal factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    Is this just referring to the school shootings specifically? I'm not sure for example this fits the Florida Night Club shooter or the guy in Las Vegas.
    The guy in Vegas had a father who abandoned the family and went to prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    ALL of them..
    And under the care of a trained Professional.
    .
    The Sandy Hook shooter wasn't on psychotropic drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The Sandy Hook shooter wasn't on psychotropic drugs.
    Sandy Hook is a snake nest of other questions. None of which have determinable answers.

    I have my own opinion,,as well as questions.

    It was announced that he was under professional handling.
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    Last edited by pcosmar; 02-17-2018 at 01:53 PM.
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