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Thread: Trump vs. DeSantis

  1. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Name one other person with a chance for the Republican nomination.
    I won't even expect it to be someone better.

    There is no Ron Paul waiting in the wings and this is not 2008 or 2012.
    If the GOP wants to be worthless, then they will be. I'm not mentally ill enough to vote for Chief Warp Speed just because the party is too dysfunctional to offer me a representative willing to represent someone other than Pfizer. That capital R next to the name is a fetish that causes lust in your heart, not mine.

    Yeah, yeah. I know. I've heard it from you ten thousand times. Yes, the dollar was unsalvageable and we were under intense pressure to get veins full of poison when he left office, and we couldn't say either when he was sworn in. But another Clinton would have been worse. A bus driver who will actually steer the bus away from the cliff is not a realistic option. And even though it only delays the inevitable, installing someone who might take their foot off the throttle is a noble pursuit. So, pretend Trump is something other than Business as Usual! It's fun and easy to fool yourself into believing it!

    All I hear when you say it is a Will Rogers quote: "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"
    Last edited by acptulsa; 04-20-2023 at 06:42 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  3. #392
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You're a joke. Beating Biden doesn't require Trump. In fact Trump was a liability in 2020. I know you can't admit this and you want to put this all on "they cheated", and they most likely did. But Trump screwed himself by going along with Dr. Fauci. And I think he did that on purpose. Yes. The conspiracy theory nobody wants to talk about is that there is absolutely no freaking reason whatsoever for the Jesuit Facui to have been point person on COVID. Trump also let Fauci restart gain of function research at Wuhan. Obama had stopped it. I know the Trump humpers go with the "Well it was still going on clandestinely" fantasy, but even that slowed the process down. Trump himself said he knew it was going to be worse than he let on! And he told that in an interview to a journalist! Almost like he didn't want to win. And Fauci knew and Fauci also said COVID wasn't going to be that bad. They both knew and they both lied. But Fauci was set up to be the hero and Trump was set up to be the fall guy. When the data came back that sunlight kills the virus, Trump sabotaged the press conference!! That data was important because Fauci had recommended closing the beaches and parks and everybody stay inside where air conditioning was spreading the virus and out of the sun that could have killed it. Fauci had specifically said "We don't know if summer will slow it down because we don't know if heat kills the virus." That, of course, was complete BS and that BS cost lives. The data that sunlight kills the virus countered Fauci. But rather than let that data sink in, Trump started talking about sunlight inside the body (and yes @dannno I know people researched that but people research all sorts of stupid things that never pan out including perpetual motion machines), and to put the olive on top of this shyt sandwich Trump talked about how disinfectant kills the virus and maybe it could be injected! And yes, I've watched the video of Trump saying this repeatedly and that's what he said! I know his supporters don't want to admit this and pretend that all he was light inside the body which is stupid but at least defensible. But a disinfectant injection would be deadly. And again the real point of that press conference should have been that sunlight kills the virus and thus locking down beaches and parks is stupid! I've also watched the video repeatedly where Dr. Fauci, after throwing Trump under the bus on Jake Tapper by agreeing that lives could have been saved sooner but there was "push back", come out and say that Trump did everything Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx told him to as soon as the told him to! Don't like the lockdowns? Blame Trump. Don't like the mask mandates? Blame Trump. Don't like a vaccine being brought to market without being fully tested? Trump still brags about his role in Operation Warp Speed! So yes. Blame Trump. And I don't want to hear "But Trump didn't do the vaccine mandates.' That's because he wasn't around to do them! And yes, once out of office it was easy as hell for him to claim "Well I would not have done X." But here's the kicker. Trump had an ace up his sleeve to beat Dr. Fauci and he didn't play it! I just recently found out that Dr. Redfield, head of the CDC under Trump, was opposing Fauci all along! Why the hell am I just now hearing about Dr. Redfield? It should have been Dr. Redfield at those press conferences either instead of Dr. Fauci or at least with Dr. Fauci! Dr. Redfield is a virologist and that means he has higher scientific credentials than Fauci on a viral pandemic! We were given a false choice between Dr. Fauci the scientist and Trump the buffoon and that was done on purpose and Trump was in on it.



    Yeah. Because paying hush money to a porn star and saying that being able to go into the dressing rooms of teen beauty stars and being on video bragging about "grab em by the p*ssy" and writing a book bragging about having affairs with married women makes you the fountain of moral virtue.

    Just fyi but the rainbow flag is an esoteric symbol. Something about Sabbateans ("God" of OT is Lucifer) and sinning.......but it's probably nothing. Carry on.


    If you're weary of trying to figure out the puzzle, just read this book: https://www.amazon.com/1666-Redempti.../dp/1943494010

    "In the ancient Jewish Kabbala... mystical rabbis taught that the rainbow symbolized a sexual rite. The bow of the rainbow was supposedly the phallus of the male god which descended into the kingdom of the womb, the queen or goddess. The union was said to create immense divine powers." - [Texe Marrs, Mystery Mark of the New Age]

    https://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/...-bible/33.html

    The meaning of the number 33 is connected to certain promises made by God. The 33rd time Noah's name is used in Scripture is when God makes a special covenant or promise with him. The Eternal promises to not destroy the entire world again with a flood and seals His pledge with the sign of the rainbow (Genesis 9:12 - 16).
    It comes right after 9:11. Hmmm....
    Last edited by devil21; 09-27-2023 at 12:09 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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  5. #393
    DeSantis Travels to Jerusalem to Sign ‘Hate Speech’ Law Making Free Speech a Felony

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/florid...eech-a-felony/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  6. #394
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    DeSantis...
    Keep slinging mud. It isn't making Trump look any better. But it's bound to help Kennedy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  7. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    DeSantis Travels to Jerusalem to Sign ‘Hate Speech’ Law Making Free Speech a Felony

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/florid...eech-a-felony/
    I noticed a few on the right easily caving to Desantis because of his actions towards Disney, so far he hasn't done anything agaisnt Disney to be fair.

  8. #396
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Keep slinging mud. It isn't making Trump look any better. But it's bound to help Kennedy.
    Nothing can help RFK Jr. no matter how you try to push him.
    He's too much of a leftist for right wing voters and he's not the selected candidate of the left.

    Your desperate search for a Trump slayer is pathetic.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  9. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    I noticed a few on the right easily caving to Desantis because of his actions towards Disney, so far he hasn't done anything agaisnt Disney to be fair.
    He helped Disney. Rarely mentioned is that the dont say gay stuff offloaded Disneys tax burden onto FL taxpayers, since Disney's "sovereign" (for lack of a better word, it wasn't true sovereignty, just special property rights) property status was revoked.


    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If the GOP wants to be worthless, then they will be. I'm not mentally ill enough to vote for Chief Warp Speed just because the party is too dysfunctional to offer me a representative willing to represent someone other than Pfizer.
    I will comment on this further later but now I have to go shower and get dressed for yet another 40 year old's untimely funeral. Baffling.
    Last edited by devil21; 04-29-2023 at 02:25 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  10. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Your desperate search for a Trump slayer is pathetic.
    I found a Trump Slayer. His name is Trump.

    The pathetic thing is the way people are beating that dead horse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  11. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I found a Trump Slayer. His name is Trump.

    The pathetic thing is the way people are beating that dead horse.
    Dream on.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  12. #400
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Dream on.
    Hey Swordsmyth, guess what? I thought I'd never ever vote again, but the message RFK Jr. is giving for the most part lines up with my views. Sure, voting is worthless, because it is the hearts and minds of the people that count, and government is merely a reflection of that. But, I as an Agorist always weigh Risk versus Reward, and figured why not ground swell just to get the ideas and message out.

    Long story short, whodathunk I'd ever vote for a Democrat, let alone vote again?

    Anyway, instead of "dreaming on", you can have nightmares about that. I picked a Democrat over your little letter "r"
    ____________

    An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)

    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)



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  14. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Hey Swordsmyth, guess what? I thought I'd never ever vote again, but the message RFK Jr. is giving for the most part lines up with my views.
    So, you are anti-gun, support lockdowns and vaccine mandates, and think climate skeptics should be locked up?
    Thanks for telling us.

    I have no doubt you regularly vote D and so nothing has actually changed, but even if I was wrong I have nothing to fear from you wasting your vote on a mman who stands no chance to win, I encourage every leftist I know (like you) to vote for him just to give the DNC heartburn.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  15. #402
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So, you are anti-gun, support lockdowns and vaccine mandates, and think climate skeptics should be locked up?
    Thanks for telling us.

    I have no doubt you regularly vote D and so nothing has actually changed, but even if I was wrong I have nothing to fear from you wasting your vote on a mman who stands no chance to win, I encourage every leftist I know (like you) to vote for him just to give the DNC heartburn.
    Ohhhh you just crack me up

    Still though, no matter what letter I happen to vote, if I even vote at all, I am still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more conservative and liberty loving than you will ever be - even if you vote T "R R R R R R" ump a million times over!
    ____________

    An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)

    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

  16. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Hey Swordsmyth, guess what? I thought I'd never ever vote again, but the message RFK Jr. is giving for the most part lines up with my views. Sure, voting is worthless, because it is the hearts and minds of the people that count, and government is merely a reflection of that. But, I as an Agorist always weigh Risk versus Reward, and figured why not ground swell just to get the ideas and message out.

    Long story short, whodathunk I'd ever vote for a Democrat, let alone vote again?

    Anyway, instead of "dreaming on", you can have nightmares about that. I picked a Democrat over your little letter "r"
    Just remember that the right was fooled by "anti-establishment-media-hates-me" candidate Trump. Don't think they don't/won't do it for the left/independent/moderates, also. RFK Jr is an interesting fellow but remember the history of RP relating to media treatment. If he's a real threat he will be largely ignored and smeared when the opportunity presents if he can't otherwise be ignored..............not given lots of free airtime (advertising), even if the airtime appears to be negative. No such thing as bad publicity in Hollywood.

    Last edited by devil21; 04-30-2023 at 02:17 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  17. #404
    Ron says the data shows Don can't win certain swing states

    Is DeSantis Right About Trump in Swing States? What 2024 Polls Say

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ay/ar-AA1boP6N

  18. #405
    Wonder if DeSantis is aware that all Trump has to do is not endorse him for president and it will tank his entire campaign. Or are we under the impression that DeSantis can only win if Trump stays out of the general election and plays no role in it?
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  19. #406
    Poll is tied . But I'll tell you this , since there have been no changes in how votes will be collected / allowed do not expect any gop to pick up swing states
    Last edited by oyarde; 05-21-2023 at 09:38 PM.
    Do something Danke

  20. #407
    Stossel does a pretty good job of pinning Ron DeSantis down. (In Stossel's "dumbed-down-to-a-third-grade-level" approach.)

    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  21. #408
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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  23. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    "Yer a bigger gun-grabber than I am!"

    "Nuh-uh!"

    "Uh-huh!"

    ...

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...51063232675841
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 05-26-2023 at 11:24 PM.

  24. #410

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  27. #413
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  28. #414
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Democrats don't care if their politicians cheat, Republicans don't care if theirs shoot people in Manhattan. Partisans on both sides are cutting off all our noses just to spite their own faces.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  29. #415
    Tho Bishop | Part Of The Problem 999
    On this episode of Part Of The Problem. Dave and Tho Bishop from the Mises Institute discuss the falling chances of governor Ron DeSantis against Donald Trump in the up coming Republican primary.
    https://rumble.com/v2qf5xv-tho-bisho...ave-smith.html

  30. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  34. #419
    At this point I see no real reason Pence and the Swami wont catch up with desantis for runner up.
    Do something Danke

  35. #420
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Bunch of Harvard/Harris polling data...
    Gee, I wonder if any of those guys will ever figure in a theoretical matchup against He Who Must Not Be Named?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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