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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    While Assange is being indicted on these charges, Hillary walks free. Unbelievable.
    I am confident that Trump will move to put her in jail any day now. /s



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I am confident that Trump will move to put her in jail any day now. /s
    Why would he put his long time buddy in jail? Lol
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I am confident that Trump will move to put her in jail any day now. /s
    Yep. Pretty soon hes going to order the FBI to arrest her.
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  6. #34

    Focus.

    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Trump is playing (fill in blank) D chess...!
    This cliche has become so tiresome. In fact, most of the sarcasm on this forum is just boring.
    I think we're seeing more sarcastic comments on threads, than meaningful ones and it makes the forum dull and not worth reading.

    Couldn't we make an effort to stick with posting comments that give details about significant events, with updates thereof? and answering questions when possible? and describing alternative perspectives on issues - which may be provide helpful insight?

    I really want to keep track of what's happening to Julian Assange, but I come to a thread like this and see comments where people are just sniping at each over Trump being so far from perfect. Wasn't that always a given? Did anyone here ever expect things to turn perfect under Trump? I don't think so. Regardless of all the things Trump does which do not measure up to what I want to see, he will always be less damaging than Hillary Clinton. This is not group therapy and nursing grudges against Trump, serve no purpose.

    If, and when, the time comes, i want to know what I can do to help Julian Assange.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Rand's strategy here is politically expedient but rather spineless in calling for immunity in exchange for testimony.
    That is from an interview that is almost a year old...didn’t find anything from Rand yesterday or today.

    Senator Rand Paul Thinks Julian Assange Should Be Granted Immunity for Testimony
    by Cassandra Fairbanks - August 15, 2018

    Speaking to the Gateway Pundit, Senator Paul asserted that Assange likely has important information about the hack and that it’s unlikely he would agree to testify without immunity.
    ...
    “I think that he should be given immunity from prosecution in exchange for coming to the United States and testifying,” Senator Paul told the Gateway Pundit. “I think he’s been someone who has released a lot of information, and you can debate whether or not any of that has caused harm, but I think really he has information that is probably pertinent to the hacking of the Democratic emails that would be nice to hear.”
    ...
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...for-testimony/
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 05-24-2019 at 10:20 AM.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Praying for Julian....
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  9. #37
    Now Julian Assange Is a Martyr

    Julian Assange, the Australian national who founded WikiLeaks, was indicted Thursday for soliciting classified information from an American whistle-blower in 2010 and publishing sensitive military files as well as State Department cables.

    Unlike his source, then–Army Private Chelsea Manning, who pledged to protect state secrets to get a security clearance, Assange had no obligation to the U.S. government, and appears to be in legal jeopardy for some actions that are virtually indistinguishable from journalism.
    ...
    The charges set a precedent “that can be used to target all news organizations that hold the government accountable by publishing its secrets,” the ACLU warns, adding, “If the US can prosecute a foreign publisher for violating our secrecy laws, there’s nothing preventing China, or Russia, from doing the same.” The civil-liberties organization says the Assange case marks the first time in American history that criminal charges are being brought “against a publisher for the publication of truthful information” under the Espionage Act of 1917.
    ...
    That law “draws no distinction between the leaker, the recipient of the leak, or the 100th person to redistribute, retransmit, or even retain the national-defense information that by that point is already in the public domain,” the law professor Stephen Vladeck has noted. And that is only one of the reasons it ranks as one of the most flagrantly authoritarian laws in U.S. history.

    Our First Amendment declares, “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.” But in 1917, Congress made just such a law, the Espionage Act, in part to abridge the freedom to speak out against World War I.

    It did so at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson...
    ...
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ge-act/590200/
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  10. #38
    Be sure to also write strongly worded letters to your congressmen!
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That is from an interview that is almost a year old...didn’t find anything from Rand yesterday or today.
    I am just assuming his position has not changed. Love him or hate him, Paul is usually consistent.

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  14. #41
    Did ANY of the TDS folks sign the petition?
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Did ANY of the TDS folks sign the petition?
    On a scale of 1-10, how much do you think they care about what you think or about a petition for that matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    On a scale of 1-10, how much do you think they care about what you think or about a petition for that matter?
    They claim to care about Assange, if they really did they would sign the petition.
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They claim to care about Assange, if they really did they would sign the petition.
    Signing or not signing a petition is inconsequential when the political class doesn’t give two $#@!s about what you think.

    Be glad Dear Leader doesn’t have him see a firing squad.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Signing or not signing a petition is inconsequential when the political class doesn’t give two $#@!s about what you think.

    Be glad Dear Leader doesn’t have him see a firing squad.
    Public pressure can affect things and if there is the slightest chance that it will and you REALLY care about Assange you should sign it.

    It doesn't cost you anything.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Be glad Dear Leader doesn’t have him see a firing squad.
    What a joke..

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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Did ANY of the TDS folks sign the petition?
    You're adorable.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What a joke..

    So, he's going to pardon him right Danno?
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What a joke..

    Yes, Donald Trump is a joke.

    Long before he said that bull$#@!, too.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    You're adorable.
    I take that as a confession that you don't care about Assange and just view him as a way to attack Trump.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Cap View Post
    So, he's going to pardon him right Danno?
    I'm actually hoping he gets off without needing a pardon, but yes, I would hope so.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  27. #53
    Still waiting for even one of the TDS crowd to sign the petition.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    ▶Anonymous 05/23/19 (Thu) 21:48:27 27b2b5 (1) No.6572364>>6572424
    Q
    What can you tell us about Assange??



    ▶Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 05/23/19 (Thu) 22:01:32 0f664c (2) No.6572667>>6572676 >>6572677 >>6572679 >>6572680 >>6572682 >>6572685 >>6572686 >>6572688 >>6572690 >>6572692 >>6572695 >>6572696 >>6572697 >>6572701 >>6572702 >>6572703 >>6572704 >>6572708 >>6572709 >>6572711 >>6572712 >>6572713 >>6572715 >>6572716 >>6572718 >>6572719 >>6572720 >>6572721 >>6572723 >>6572724 >>6572726 >>6572729 >>6572731 >>6572733 >>6572734 >>6572738 >>6572741 >>6572747 >>6572748 >>6572752 >>6572753 >>6572757 >>6572759 >>6572760 >>6572761 >>6572762 >>6572764 >>6572767 >>6572768 >>6572770 >>6572780 >>6572783

    >>6572364 (/pb)

    Under protection.
    Threat is real.
    Key to DNC 'source' 'hack' '187'.
    Q
    If Trump is playing chess and the plan is for Assange to come out alright then the strategy must be to get the left to like Assange again and defend him so that when he pulls the rug out from under Russiagate they can't just dismiss it because "he is in league with Trump and Putin"

    If that is the plan then it seems to be working already:


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Now Julian Assange Is a Martyr


    Julian Assange, the Australian national who founded WikiLeaks, was indicted Thursday for soliciting classified information from an American whistle-blower in 2010 and publishing sensitive military files as well as State Department cables.

    Unlike his source, then–Army Private Chelsea Manning, who pledged to protect state secrets to get a security clearance, Assange had no obligation to the U.S. government, and appears to be in legal jeopardy for some actions that are virtually indistinguishable from journalism.
    ...
    The charges set a precedent “that can be used to target all news organizations that hold the government accountable by publishing its secrets,” the ACLU warns, adding, “If the US can prosecute a foreign publisher for violating our secrecy laws, there’s nothing preventing China, or Russia, from doing the same.” The civil-liberties organization says the Assange case marks the first time in American history that criminal charges are being brought “against a publisher for the publication of truthful information” under the Espionage Act of 1917.
    ...
    That law “draws no distinction between the leaker, the recipient of the leak, or the 100th person to redistribute, retransmit, or even retain the national-defense information that by that point is already in the public domain,” the law professor Stephen Vladeck has noted. And that is only one of the reasons it ranks as one of the most flagrantly authoritarian laws in U.S. history.

    Our First Amendment declares, “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.” But in 1917, Congress made just such a law, the Espionage Act, in part to abridge the freedom to speak out against World War I.

    It did so at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson...
    ...
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ge-act/590200/





    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 05-24-2019 at 10:45 PM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  29. #55
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Still waiting for even one of the TDS crowd to sign the petition.
    If it pleases the Crown might You consider not imprisoning journalists for eternity?
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    If it pleases the Crown might You consider not imprisoning journalists for eternity?
    If you want to launch a shooting revolt let me know.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If you want to launch a shooting revolt let me know.
    Obviously I was talking about Kim Kardashisian 2020.

    She’s rich so she wouldn’t be beholden to the deep state. /airplane glue fueled full retard ideas
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Obviously I was talking about Kim Kardashisian 2020.

    She’s rich so she wouldn’t be beholden to the deep state. /airplane glue fueled full retard ideas
    You are venting gas and calling it speech, you don't really care about Assange or you would do anything that might help him even if it is a longshot, signing the petition doesn't even cost you anything but you don't care about Assange, you are just virtue signalling your TDS.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  35. #60
    I came back from a DMT trip and the vision was clear. Hillary Clinton would have imprisoned Julian Assange for two life sentences.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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