NFL HELL: Owners/TV networks face mounting losses as Trump called boycotts spread

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This is getting serious.

ESPN set for another round of massive layoffs before year's end
Highly Cited New York Daily News 18h ago






Gaffes, TV ratings concerns dominated as NFL, players forged anthem peace
ESPN 10h ago

[anaconda]

I gave up on the NBA before the NFL.

[FunkBuddha]

Some of us just like to watch the world burn.

[anaconda]

Some of us just like to watch the world burn.

Just Caesar's Temples.

[anaconda]

Totally agree about Bill King. Loved the Madden years and the guy was one of the best announcers ever.

[timosman]

Holy crap! WTF is this?

[anaconda]

Holy crap! WTF is this?

Just more daily affirmations of how utterly stupid and dumbed down the bread and circuses of professional sports has become. And tangentially supportive of some of the theories presented in this thread that the NFL has become just plain boring and frivolous. And that this may help explain the empty stadiums. The traveling video above underscores my utter disinterest in the NBA. As an example.

I believe there is a parallel between sports fans accepting NBA rule bending and accepting U.S. administration rule bending.

[timosman]

I believe there is a parallel between sports fans accepting NBA rule bending and accepting U.S. administration rule bending.

Definitely. The players are too stupid to even play the game they claim they play, the referees are useless/corrupt and the owners of the league/teams are making tons of money because the public is convinced they couldn't be $#@!ed with as much as they are. Kabuki theater.

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Apparently anthem kneeling protests are spreading to cheerleaders too:










Cheerleaders' protests reportedly shut down by Georgia sheriff, lawmaker

Rep. Earl Ehrhart and sheriff Neil Warren were reportedly 'furious' about kneeling at Kennesaw State

• Cody Benjamin
• Oct 26, 2017

On football's biggest stage, meetings between the NFL and its players have much of the league talking up cooperative social activism in the wake of pregame protests across professional sports.This is a contrast to the dozens of public statements by President Donald Trump, who has publicly ignored the NFL's stance on protesting players' pursuit of discussion on social equality and criminal justice reform, instead alleging that those who kneel during the national anthem are doing it to "disrespect" America.
But Trump isn't necessarily alone in applauding the "great anger" that he says stems from those peacefully protesting on the field.
Investigations by NBC's WXIA-TV (11Alive), which were relayed with additional reporting by Yahoo Sports, suggest that a "furious" state representative and local sheriff attempted -- and essentially succeeded -- in thwarting protests at the collegiate level.


When the Kennesaw State University administration started keeping its football team's cheerleaders off the field for the anthem, the reports indicate, it wasn't just a response to five of those cheerleaders kneeling during a Sept. 30 playing of the national anthem. It was also, as implied through text messages obtained by 11Alive, the result of pressure from Rep. Earl Ehrhart and sheriff Neil Warren.
The messages, accessed thanks to Georgia's Open Records Act, revealed that Ehrhart and Warren told each other how "furious" they were upon seeing the cheerleaders kneel in protest of police misconduct and racial inequality. They also showed Ehrhart accusing school president Sam Olens of "coddling" the cheerleaders, to which Warren was revealed to have said the following: "Let me know what I can do to help you stop this BS on taxpayer-funded college campuses."
Further text messages, as reported by 11Alive, showed Warren eventually assuring Ehrhart that he had spoken with Olens and stood up to "the unpatriotic cheerleaders" and "these liberal[s] that hate the USA."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...riff-lawmaker/








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Houston Texans owner on national anthem protests: 'We can't have the inmates running the prison'

Melissa Quinn | Oct 27, 2017



Houston Texans owner Bob McNair "stunned" other NFL franchise owners last week by saying they need to oppose players' efforts to kneel during the national anthem, and saying that owners can't have "inmates running the prison."

McNair’s remark, reported by ESPN, came after Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones discussed the business issues facing the league, as well as his call for a mandate requiring players to stand during the national anthem.

[Anti Federalist]

It was "old news" before Trump brought it to the front again. People were not tuning in or not tuning in because a couple guys knelt during the Anthem. They care more about the game (or don't care about the game).

Seriously?

Now you're just being ridiculous.

[Anti Federalist]

You know what was so idiotic about this?

I had to read five stories before I found out what the "racist gesture" was.

This whole country has turned into a bunch of $#@!ing pansies.


Astros’ Yuli Gurriel Escapes World Series Ban, but Will Miss 5 Games in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/28/s...u-darvish.html

During Game 3 of the Series on Friday, Gurriel, who defected from Cuba in 2016, hit a home run off Dodgers pitcher Yu Darvish in the bottom of the second inning. After Gurriel returned to the dugout, he was captured on camera smiling and then raising his hands as if to stretch the sides of his eyes. It seemed to be a clear, and pointedly insensitive, reference to Darvish, who is from Japan.

[Anti Federalist]

[RJB]

You know what was so idiotic about this?

I had to read five stories before I found out what the "racist gesture" was.

This whole country has turned into a bunch of $#@!ing pansies.


Astros’ Yuli Gurriel Escapes World Series Ban, but Will Miss 5 Games in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/28/s...u-darvish.html

During Game 3 of the Series on Friday, Gurriel, who defected from Cuba in 2016, hit a home run off Dodgers pitcher Yu Darvish in the bottom of the second inning. After Gurriel returned to the dugout, he was captured on camera smiling and then raising his hands as if to stretch the sides of his eyes. It seemed to be a clear, and pointedly insensitive, reference to Darvish, who is from Japan.

It seems progressives have psychic abilities to know the thoughts and motivations of others.

[Anti Federalist]

[Anti Federalist]

[Wooden Indian]

That there dirty Mexican feller sho does have a nice blower.

Does my homosexual overtone cancel my racist overtone and create an acceptable balance? I'm asking for a friend.

[timosman]

That there dirty Mexican feller sho does have a nice blower.

Does my homosexual overtone cancel my racist overtone and create an acceptable balance? I'm asking for a friend.

No, it doesn't. You show no empathy for the feller.

[otherone]

That there dirty Mexican feller sho does have a nice blower.

Does my homosexual overtone cancel my racist overtone and create an acceptable balance? I'm asking for a friend.

Doods working for a living.

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Time to ban Dr. Seuss books?

If you were trying to make argument that political correctness regarding symbolisms of racial stereotypes has made exponential progress in recent decades, then it seems to be supported by current facts on the surface.
But in various state-sponsored policies and deep stage operations, racial supremacist dogmas continue to be worshiped, injustices continue to be delivered when the price is just right.
All got to see a tiny glimpse of massive media sponsored ironies prevalent in our pop political culture when recently DGP bundler Harvey Weinstein was also exposed as "women rights" champion.






Texas city drops Israel boycott ban for individuals but says businesses must still reject BDS to get hurricane aid

US Politics Jesse Rubin on October 26, 2017
Following media uproar, Dickinson, Texas, decided today it will no longer require private citizens affected by Hurricane Harvey to sign a pledge guaranteeing they will not boycott Israel as a condition to receiving help. But businesses seeking aid must reject Israel boycott.







But this is digression. Getting back to standing up for human rights while kneeling down for media neocons cherished stunts, another eventful Sunday is unfolding:

Houston Texans owner on national anthem protests: 'We can't have the inmates running the prison'

Melissa Quinn | Oct 27, 2017
Houston Texans owner Bob McNair "stunned" other NFL franchise owners last week by saying they need to oppose players' efforts to kneel during the national anthem, and saying that owners can't have "inmates running the prison."

McNair’s remark, reported by ESPN, came after Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones discussed the business issues facing the league, as well as his call for a mandate requiring players to stand during the national anthem.

Texans plan pregame protest of Bob McNair's comments

9:59 AM ET
ESPN.com


players are planning to protest as a unit before Sunday's game against the Seattle Seahawks in the wake of team owner Bob McNair's controversial "inmates running the prison" comment, a league source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.
The Texans held a players meeting Saturday in Seattle to decide how to handle Sunday after McNair's comments surfaced, the source said.
Texans left tackle Duane Brown told ESPN's Josina Anderson on Sunday morning that he anticipates "up to 65 to 70 percent" of the team's players could kneel. He said the players would not remove the team's decals from their helmets as had been discussed.
McNair's comment was made during the owners meetings in New York earlier this month. Referring to ongoing player demonstrations during the anthem, he said, "We can't have the inmates running the prison."





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[euphemia]

We chose not to watch the protestors.

[Swordsmyth]

Papa John's Pulls NFL Ads Due To "Negative Consumer Sentiment"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-01/papa-johns-pulls-nfl-ads-due-negative-consumer-sentiment

[Madison320]

Interesting.

I believe they said the same thing about the Jews in that day.

Freedom is only for the pure, amirite? INSTEAD OF LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOR AND CONVERTING THEM TO TRUTH THROUGH COMPASSION, LET'S JUST:

"Remove freak Socialists physically from society, so MY society can continue to exist."

Tell me how that is any different than the very ones YOU condemn.

The problem is you're not consistent. You want us to forgive protestors who protest "black injustice" but not protestors who protest "white injustice".

As I've said before. I'm an equal opportunity hater. I hate black racist groups and white racist groups and I'm not going to support either.

[Madison320]

I am actually a little surprised that these imbecile NFL fans are this butthurt. Guess I should not be surprised. I like watching, but the whole military worship-breast cancer fawning-blah blah blah was wearing thin. I watch on Sunday less and less. These NFL clown owners will learn the hard way that they're not the only game in town. The entertainment dollar is more competitive these days. Hell, you can make your own entertainment. Ride a horse. Grow a garden. Enjoy the sunshine. Play a game yourself.

I agree. The NFL keeps getting harder to watch. The protesting is just one more irritation. Like you said the "military worship" and "awareness crap" is annoying. As a hypochondriac I pretty much have to wait until October is over until I watch a game. And the game itself sucks. The penalties are so severe and so subjective, that I'd say at least 30% of the games are decided by bad calls. The college game handles penalties a lot better. More objectivity (for example if your knee hits the ground, you're down - in the NFL it depends on whether you got touched) and less severity (pass interference is 15 yards not the spot of the foul, you don't get an automatic first down on defensive penalties). And the targeting type penalties are out of control, inconsistent.

[ChristianAnarchist]

When I'm at a game I stand and remove my hat so as not to offend the religious (idolatrous) believers. I do not place my hand over my heart though and I do not sing along. I wonder how many others there do the same. I really don't like to offend people but if you think about how stupid it is to worship those who oppress you it really boggles the mind.

I only worship God...

[Ender]

The problem is you're not consistent. You want us to forgive protestors who protest "black injustice" but not protestors who protest "white injustice".

As I've said before. I'm an equal opportunity hater. I hate black racist groups and white racist groups and I'm not going to support either.

That's not true- I have never said THAT. I think we should all be protesting INJUSTICE.

[Jamesiv1]

I agree. The NFL keeps getting harder to watch. The protesting is just one more irritation. Like you said the "military worship" and "awareness crap" is annoying. As a hypochondriac I pretty much have to wait until October is over until I watch a game. And the game itself sucks. The penalties are so severe and so subjective, that I'd say at least 30% of the games are decided by bad calls. The college game handles penalties a lot better. More objectivity (for example if your knee hits the ground, you're down - in the NFL it depends on whether you got touched) and less severity (pass interference is 15 yards not the spot of the foul, you don't get an automatic first down on defensive penalties). And the targeting type penalties are out of control, inconsistent.

I don't watch much football, but I like to listen to a local sports radio station.

This morning they were saying that instant reply is having a bad effect. The officials have gotten lazy, and there is a flag after almost every play.

I really hope the NFL takes it in the shorts and loses quite a lot of money. It might make them go back to playing football again.

[Madison320]

I don't watch much football, but I like to listen to a local sports radio station.

This morning they were saying that instant reply is having a bad effect. The officials have gotten lazy, and there is a flag after almost every play.

I really hope the NFL takes it in the shorts and loses quite a lot of money. It might make them go back to playing football again.

I watched a high school game on tv awhile ago and it was amazing how the quickly the game went and how well it flowed.

[Madison320]

That's not true- I have never said THAT. I think we should all be protesting INJUSTICE.

Obviously you're not going to come out and say it. But we can infer it from your posts. Like putting all the blame on white people for the current problems in South Africa.

Can you show me a post where you said we should support the alt right protestors when they were protesting the injustice of "anti free speech laws"?

[PierzStyx]

Seriously?

Now you're just being ridiculous.

Apparently TV viewership is down overall, across all networks and programs.

Through week seven, the NFL is down 5% overall from the same point last year. That's a troubling drop for the biggest ratings powerhouse on TV, but it seems less dire when you consider that the four major networks are down an average 8% in prime time.

NBC is down 4%, CBS is down 6%, ABC is down 11%, and Fox's prime time viewership dropped 20% through the first month of the new TV season, according to Nielsen data. And those numbers are down despite the inclusion of live sporting events, which usually bring in big audiences.

The NFL's sluggish viewership may be less a symptom of the league's problems and more about what's happening in the TV environment overall. The landscape has become incredibly fragmented, thanks to a flood of programming and competition from streaming services and from the internet, not to mention a 24-hour news cycle that comes with a breathtaking amount of content. Television, Netflix, Hulu and Amazon are all vying for the same eyeballs, and there are no signs that the deluge of programming will ebb any time soon.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/26/medi...rks/index.html

Looks to me like, more than anything, the internet is killing TV, including NFL TV ratings.

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Papa John Loses Dough: Pizza Chain Founder Loses $70 Million In Hours, Blames NFL
Forbes Nov 1, 2017





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Papa John's Blames the NFL for Hurting Pizza Sales
Highly Cited Bloomberg Nov 1, 2017

Papa John’s International Inc. founder John Schnatter is going after NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, saying weak handling of the league’s national-anthem controversy has hammered sales of his pizza.
“The NFL has hurt us by not resolving the current debacle to the players’ and owners’ satisfaction,” Schnatter, who serves as the pizza chain’s chairman and chief executive officer, said on a conference call. “NFL leadership has hurt Papa John’s shareholders.”
The remarks follow a controversy over NFL football players protesting during the national anthem, a movement that started last season. The demonstrations have sparked calls for a boycott and raised concerns among league sponsors. But Schnatter’s comments mark the highest-profile example of an NFL partner publicly blaming the outcry for hurting business.