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Left/right establishment and media victory. Are you happy about that?
He's building a political empire, derails will happen.
I don't think you understand the Trump train if you think it was derailed. Trump won tonight, the real Trump, not the one he plays on TV.
Leaves the Senate 51-49. Under reconciliation rules (which they used for the Obamacare votes and their tax reform bill) they can pass a bill with 50% of the votes (assuming the VP votes with them to break a tie). This means that to pass that tax reform they can only lose a single member of their party and still pass it. That is why they were trying to get things done so quickly. But the reconciliation of the House and Senate tax reform bills has not been worked out yet and now passing it has gotten even harder- Bob Corker was against it on the first go round and changes to get House votes may cost them other Senators (Collins is said to be leaning against it as it currently stands).
This is why it was so important to Trump and his agenda.
Other bills will need at least 60 votes to pass- meaning trying to lure ten Democrats. If they vote party line, nothing will be done.
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No kidding. Trump was against Moore in the primaries.Originally Posted by William Tell
The Hillary train is back on track if anything-- although it may not be her at the helm.
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Moore would be a liability. Btw, riding on a horse to polls.
I do not think there has ever been a trump train . The senate never passing anything at all might be a gift to america
Trumps support for Moore was malicious compliance at best. His comments were unneccesary and probably ruined the political debate. It was a repeat of the election but the reverse, Republicans thought they were going to win by a landslide and the Democrats were fired up over fake news.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mi...rticle/2643267
Mitch McConnell: Alabama's new senator won't be seated this year
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday that no matter who wins Tuesday’s Senate election in Alabama, Republican Luther Strange will remain in the seat until the end of the session this year.
“Sen. Strange is going to be here through the end of this session,” McConnell, R-Ky., told reporters.
Republicans are eager to pass a tax reform bill and send it to the president’s desk as early as next week, but there is no guarantee they will be able to round up the votes by then, and they might need more time.
Strange, a Republican, was appointed to the seat to replace Jeff Sessions, who President Trump picked to serve as attorney general.
Keeping Strange in the seat assures Republicans of a reliable GOP vote, not just for tax reform but for must-pass spending legislation.
Republican Roy Moore defeated Strange in the Alabama Republican primary and is facing off against Democrat Doug Jones in Tuesday’s election.
State officials said certification of Tuesday's election would not happen until Dec. 26th at the earliest in order to ensure all counties have reported results. The Senate is only expected to be in session this year until Dec. 22 at the latest.
I was feeling like that while I was watching the result, but didn't really formulate it intellectually. I think you're right. That's an insightful observation.
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Trump made robo calls and RM still lost?
Bad omen. Which one played bigger role in this GOP defeat, Trump's Israel embassy call or Ivanka's child rights call? Or was it something else like Flynn/Kushner scandals?
Assuming following are not fakenews.
Chris Matthews: Trump Is Moving Capital To Jerusalem For Roy Moore
Chris Matthews, host of MSNBC’s Hard Ball with Chris Matthews, said that the call from Trump’s administration to move the capital of Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem Wednesday “is related” to the Roy More Alabama Senate race.
“And a couple more points about this. Don’t think this isn’t related to Alabama next week. It is related. It is the Christian evangelicals down there with their crazy ideas about Israel, which is, I don’t know, mythical,” Matthews stated.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/ch...for-roy-moore/
Ivanka Trump: 'Special Place in Hell for People Who Prey on Children'
insider.foxnews.com/.../ivanka-trump-reacts-roy-moore-special-place-hell-people-pre...
Nov 15, 2017 - At a public appearance in South Jersey, Ivanka Trump spoke to the Associated Press about the sexual misconduct allegations against Judge Roy Moore (R-Ala.).
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
I dunno. Rand’s probably relieved he won’t have to deal with being associated with a pedophile. Has he done anything to help Moore since the endorsement?
Yep
NopeHas he done anything to help Moore since the endorsement?
Do you mean an alleged pedophile?
They are going to get rid of the Republican majority Rand Paul won after the last election. It's hard to blame $#@! on the other party when you control all three branches of government. That's why Trump's weak ass argument lost, theres no way people would go out and vote for government promises and ponies that we know they won't deliver on. You have all three branches of the government and we still have Obamacare, this is bull$#@! and Republican voters know it.
Rand endorsed Moore back in October but has been silent on it ever since. http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/17/ra...ore-in-alabama
No this was a failure of the right culture warrior wing of the GOP.
i.e. the people over whom we need to vault to get into power.
$#@! them.
What kind of psycho roots for the neocon/prog empire? Regardless of Moore's candidacy, they have run this country aground.
Good question
Why'd you do it?
Trump is being assailed by the entire deep state apparatus every day. You have your answer right there. Any sane person wants to see the power dispersed/broken as opposed to the status quo that once again prevailed tonight.
Poor guy
http://fox6now.com/2017/12/12/presid...dget-into-law/WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed into law a sweeping defense policy bill that authorizes a $700 billion budget for the military, including additional spending on missile defense programs to counter North Korea’s growing nuclear weapons threat.
But there’s a catch. The $700 billion budget won’t become reality until lawmakers agree to roll back a 2011 law that set strict limits on federal spending, including by the Defense Department — and they haven’t yet.
The law caps 2018 defense spending at $549 billion.
Before he signed the bill at the White House, President Trump called on Congress to “finish the job” and eliminate the cap on defense spending.
“I think it’s going to happen,” said the president, joined by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford and other senior military leaders. “We need our military. It’s got to be perfecto.”
He urged Democrats in Congress to quit threatening to shut down the government and “send clean funding and a clean funding bill to my desk that fully funds our great military. Protecting our country should always be a bipartisan issue, just like today’s legislation.”
Temporary government funding is set to run out on Dec. 22, the deadline for lawmakers to send the White House a broader government funding bill or risk a partial government shutdown.
Well, you know how a roomba which is one of those dumb robot vacuums tries its hardest to clean up dog $#@! that it smears everywhere?
Trump IS Deep State. Look at who he hired- corporate executives, Goldman Sachs, ex- Generals, Washington insiders.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewspeakNewspeak is the language of Oceania, a fictional totalitarian state ruled by the Party, who created the language to meet the ideological requirements of English Socialism (Ingsoc).[1] In the world of Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949), Newspeak is a controlled language, of restricted grammar and limited vocabulary, a linguistic design meant to limit the freedom of thought—personal identity, self-expression, free will—that ideologically threatens the regime of Big Brother and the Party, who thus criminalized such concepts as thoughtcrime, contradictions of Ingsoc orthodoxy
If he was Deep State, they would have rolled out the red carpet instead of impeachment. It's DoD vs. the CIA/FBI cartel. It's in our interest for the DoD faction to win and splinter the entrenched power base. Institutional Chaos is the preferred option.
The opposition party ALWAYS calls for possible impeachment- at least since Nixon. Let's you know you are "one of them". Notice he quit ragging on the CIA- he was quickly put back in line. Or that was just for show.
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