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Citizen of Arizona
@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
So far, the managed mainstream media has ignored the October 18, 2013 filing of two affidavits, one public and the other sealed, that identify twenty-(20) points of forgery on the most controversial document concerning the most controversial figure of our time: Barack Hussein Obama. In my view, this is undoubtedly the most detailed and compellingly damning document ever created pertaining to the controversy surrounding the long form birth certificate. It provides critical insight into the people behind the forgery, their methods, and more importantly, their mistakes.
Douglas Vogt, an author and the owner and operator of a scanning business who also has an accounting background, invested over two years conducting an investigation into the authenticity of Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth. Mr. Vogt, along with veteran typesetter Paul Ivey, conducted exhaustive research of the document provided to the White House Press Corps on April 27, 2011 – not the online PDF, a critical distinction that must be understood.
Using their combined experience of 80 years in this realm, they conducted extensive examinations of the “copy” that was used as the basis for the PDF document. They acquired the same type of equipment that was used back in the late 1950s and early 1960s in an attempt to recreate the document presented as an “authenticated copy” proving the legitimacy of Barack Obama. Instead, they found 20 points of forgery on that document and detail each point of forgery in the affidavit.
Even more interesting, Mr. Vogt claims to have identified the “signature” of the perpetrator, or the woman who created the forged document, hidden within the document itself. Her identity, in addition to the identity of other conspirators and their precise methods are contained in a sealed document supplementing the public affidavit.
More:
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/10097
Last edited by Danke; 09-16-2016 at 07:09 PM.
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Your last word post is better than mine, I do admit. As for the demands of some here to present who was serious about the merits of the birther issue early on, how about Alan Keyes, a black conservative who ran against Obarry in his bid for US Senate in 2004? Was Keyes a racist for questioning O's eligibility?:
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Citizen of Arizona
@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
Trump has played them (including many on this board) all for fools again.
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
I am not a birther and don't care for the issue. After this reply I am done with you, nothing needs to be said anymore to dishonest and discredited.
He made a troll topic.
I replied with my observations. He replied directly to my observations. Ender jumped in to defend him. You jumped in to defend him. Both of you changed subject. Proving both of you are intellectually dishonest. Now you continue to play dumb.
O, you're right.
silverhandorder, see the post spudea is quoting here to receive your due admonishment.
You seem to be talking about who's responsible for it.Originally Posted by spudea
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm only interested in the driving force behind the movement.
It isn't the Clinton machine.
It's nationalism/racism, using Constitutionalism as a pretext.
Clinton may have lit the spark, but for an entirely different reason than the birthers went on to carry the flame.
So you are claiming to answer a question I didn't ask. I was talking about people that understand Adobe Photoshop the whole time. You are either confused or dishonest. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were simply confused. Either way your bigoted statement that 80% of the people that question Obama's place of birth are racist is extremely stupid.
Citizen of Arizona
@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 09-16-2016 at 07:51 PM.
Not. True.
This thread is about Trump saying that Obama was born in the US. I have never changed the subject.
Instead of listening to Trump's actually words, why do you immediately insult the messenger?
YOU are the one that continually calls others names and never stops insulting.
YOU are the one that changes the subject and doesn't stay on topic.
YOU are the one that does not post challenging articles.
YOU are the one that has nothing to add to the dialog except hate and defamation.
This is exactly the kind of behavior that has driven non-Trump supporters even farther away.
A few, like @openfire, @donnay, @dannno, @Chester Copperpot and others- can actually carry on an intelligent conversation and I appreciate them very much. But a majority do just as you do, with the continually insults, innuendoes, and outrageous insults.
I do not care WHO you vote for and respect everyone's right to vote for whom they wish. However, this is a RON PAUL FORUM and it is time for the ridiculous insults and finger-pointing to
STOP.
Last edited by Ender; 09-16-2016 at 07:57 PM.
There is no spoon.
this is a great reason for people to vote for trump now... this is going to really appeal the moderates... thanks for sharing
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
well just fyi from my interactions with the dude, hes pretty open minded and okay at discussing varying topics and positions without letting emotions of fighting cloud the discussion... also I dont recall having any problems with you either... I know political season gets everybody a little more on edge.. even when I see a thread like this I figure Ill just come to troll another cPUD worthless thread but in all honesty trump saying this is the PC thing to do and will garner for him more moderate and liberal votes... The die hrd trump supporters arent going to go anywhere... and people like me who are planning on voting trump arent going to go to hillary for ANY reason.. of course theres always an outside chance for johnson to make a break out but time is ticking... he would probably need to be in the debates to make breakout IMO
Why is this an issue now?
Ok well next time try and see if he pretends to be stupid at every premise you make.
Also as far as the birther thing. I think it's played out no one gives a $#@!. Republicans knows Obama will be gone soon. Democrats are butt hurt about it but otherwise since no one brings it up anymore and again he will be gone they don;t really care.
But here is the real beauty of this. Hillary is the original birther. And that is what people going to remember this news cycle for and how Trump got CNN to air half an hour of military endorsements.
This is my analysis without any bias.
With bias burn the she devil .
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