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  1. 03-30-2017, 08:42 AM #1
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    [Merge] Trump Threatens Freedom Caucus - Amash & Massie respond

    This interesting article on The Hill highlights just how few conservatives we can depend on in D.C.

    Freedom Caucus member fires back: The swamp drained Trump
    House Freedom Caucus member Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) fired back Thursday at President Trump's threat to "fight" conservative members in 2018, turning the Trump’s campaign slogan around on him.

    "It didn't take long for the swamp to drain [Trump]. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment," Amash tweeted...
    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/32...-drained-trump


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    https://twitter.com/justinamash/stat...48570081005568


    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...48896708108290
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    This interesting article on The Hill highlights just how few conservatives we can depend on in D.C.

    Freedom Caucus member fires back: The swamp drained Trump
    House Freedom Caucus member Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) fired back Thursday at President Trump's threat to "fight" conservative members in 2018, turning the Trump’s campaign slogan around on him.

    "It didn't take long for the swamp to drain [Trump]. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment," Amash tweeted...
    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/32...-drained-trump
    LOL. Trump tried to threaten them and they trumped Trump.
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    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.
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    It would be great if the members for the Freedom Caucus would provide a free market solution plan that was very simple and that voters could get behind. Sell a better solution to the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    It would be great if the members for the Freedom Caucus would provide a free market solution plan that was very simple and that voters could get behind. Sell a better solution to the public.
    You mean like Rand Paul's plan?
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You mean like Rand Paul's plan?
    seriously. they already endorsed it.
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    Trump Threatens Freedom Caucus - Sees them as enemies like Democrats

    President Trump on Thursday struck back at the House caucus that sunk his ObamaCare replacement bill, threatening their legislative careers if the staunchly conservative members refuse to get on board with the new president’s agenda.

    “The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don’t get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!” Trump tweeted.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...ight-them.html
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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/847471729261686784
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    Trump is making a fatal mistake. He won't have any supporters if he keeps this up.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    Trump's idea of draining the swamp was to open the sewers of NY into Washington DC.
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    But Danno said this was all a front! That this was really 'chess' and he just had to 'pretend' to be a RINO to oust Paul Ryan... Danno said he doesn't BELIEVE in these tweets, Created4!

    Be more like Danno.

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    so, how many freedom caucus members are there, and how many constituents voted for these guys in total?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Trump is making a fatal mistake. He won't have any supporters if he keeps this up.
    Sure didn't take long for Trump to transform himself into the biggest Cuck in the land.
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    Here's a chair for anyone who needs to explain the many dimensions of Trump's comment:

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    Rand Paul: Should we provide care and shelter to immigrants at the border or should we be paying for clown shows and a traveling circus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Trump is making a fatal mistake. He won't have any supporters if he keeps this up.
    If only that were true.
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    You guys obviously don't see what Trump is doing here [snark].... Trump secretly SUPPORTS the Tea Party and the Freedom Caucus... you'll see.
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    C'mon really?! Trump's twitter is fake news. Get on board the train, ya cuck.
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    Choose a side, Trump vs Freedom Caucus

    Trump says we need to fight the Freedom Caucus (Justin Amash etc) Will you even MAGA?
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    Trump Calls House Freedom Caucus ‘Friends,’ Predicts ‘What’s Going to Come … Is a Better Bill’

    Melissa Quinn / @MelissaQuinn97 / March 24, 2017 /
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Trump says we need to fight the Freedom Caucus (Justin Amash etc) Will you even MAGA?
    WTH Mods? I was making the poll what's you problem, why'd you merge this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    WTH Mods? I was making the poll what's you problem, why'd you merge this?
    Because we don't need a million threads about Donald Trump being the enemy of the Freedom Caucus when we just heard him say they were friends the other day. Rand Paul says they are friends. I trust Rand. Donald Trump does what Donald Trump does. Actions speak louder than words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Because we don't need a million threads about Donald Trump being the enemy of the Freedom Caucus when we just heard him say they were friends the other day. Rand Paul says they are friends. I trust Rand. Donald Trump does what Donald Trump does. Actions speak louder than words.
    Trump just said we need to fight the Democrats and Justin Amash. That's not words, that's an action. Pick a side Dannno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Trump says we need to fight the Freedom Caucus (Justin Amash etc) Will you even MAGA?
    No, $#@!. My post was completely cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    No, $#@!. My post was completely cut.
    Mod just + repped me that he was just merging threads about same stuff. mine didn't have poll in the title. I'll make another one and you can reply. Its all cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Trump just said we need to fight the Democrats and Justin Amash. That's not words, that's an action. Pick a side Dannno.
    Lol, no sorry but "said" is words not action.

    Last week Trump said they were his friends, and Rand agreed with him and I trust Rand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Lol, no sorry but "said" is words not action.
    If Trump endorsed Amash would that be an action or talk. He just told Pepe to kick his ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    If Trump endorsed Amash would that be an action or talk. He just told Pepe to kick his ass.
    Words. Not even words. Tweets. Come on dude, seriously? This wasn't an executive order, it was a friggin tweet.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

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