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    [SPLIT] Modern "art"

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Modern art is an utter travesty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Modern art is an utter travesty.
    Back during my impetuous youth, a group of us took LSD (that's Lake Shore Drive to you) and visited the Art Institute of Chicago. We walked in and saw Red Plank proudly displayed.



    We all just burst out laughing. But I do wonder if God is taking a similarly humorous view of the Golden Calf of Wall St.



    What would Moses do?
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Back during my impetuous youth, a group of us took LSD (that's Lake Shore Drive to you) and visited the Art Institute of Chicago. We walked in and saw Red Plank proudly displayed.
    It's tomato soup resistant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Modern art is an utter travesty.
    Marxism.

    I hate to inject politics into such a question, but I did not do it, our enemies did.

    Art, literature, music, architecture...there is not a single endeavor that the Marxists have left untouched.

    It is ugly, vapid, profane and distasteful for a reason, to make you, and your fellow citizens hate yourself and the culture which created this trash.

    So when the time came, which is now, nobody would lift a finger to defend it.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So when the time came, which is now, nobody would lift a finger to defend it.
    Unlike the 1940s.



    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Marxism.

    I hate to inject politics into such a question, but I did not do it, our enemies did.

    Art, literature, music, architecture...there is not a single endeavor that the Marxists have left untouched.

    It is ugly, vapid, profane and distasteful for a reason, to make you, and your fellow citizens hate yourself and the culture which created this trash.

    So when the time came, which is now, nobody would lift a finger to defend it.
    YOU didn't inject politics into it, my man. THEY did.

    I visited Prague in 1996, just 6-7 years after the fall.

    The MOST noticeable thing about Prague, besides the old town - Charles Bridge, St. Vitus Cathedral - was the GAWD AWFUL architecture of the city! We stayed in a college dormitory (it was summer when we were there), and it was like living in a nuclear bunker - concrete, austere, inhuman. This is what "theire" (to borrow the phrase from @osan) "art" is... it lacks heart. It lacks humanity. It is intended specifically to break you from your passion, from your heart. It is utter and complete garbage.

    It is, to any objective eye, an utter moral travesty. Jackson Pollack? Garbage. These modern so-called artists, who effectively vomit on a piece of canvas and we're supposed to rub our chins and imagine some kind of intent? NO, go fck yourselves. You're not saying anything. The only possible thing I can get out of modern art is that it is a statement on the utter chaos and calamity that is modern society. It is not redeeming, or soothing, or compelling in and of itself... it's - at best - a desperate cry for help in a modern world which is effectively, figuratively and literally collapsing before our very eyes. It is the SCREAM as western civilization slips into the abyss. That's all it is. It's the last, desperate throes of a civilization DYING, not thriving. It's sad, but it's definitely not beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Where are all the bums with their rear-ends hanging out of the back of their pants?

    Oh, never mind... this was from a time when people held themselves in regard, regardless of their social status, and believed in presenting themselves like dignified human beings in public, rather than slovenly bums who couldn't care less about how they presented themselves to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    YOU didn't inject politics into it, my man. THEY did.

    I visited Prague in 1996, just 6-7 years after the fall.

    The MOST noticeable thing about Prague, besides the old town - Charles Bridge, St. Vitus Cathedral - was the GAWD AWFUL architecture of the city! We stayed in a college dormitory (it was summer when we were there), and it was like living in a nuclear bunker - concrete, austere, inhuman. This is what "theire" (to borrow the phrase from @osan) "art" is... it lacks heart. It lacks humanity. It is intended specifically to break you from your passion, from your heart. It is utter and complete garbage.

    It is, to any objective eye, an utter moral travesty. Jackson Pollack? Garbage. These modern so-called artists, who effectively vomit on a piece of canvas and we're supposed to rub our chins and imagine some kind of intent? NO, go fck yourselves. You're not saying anything. The only possible thing I can get out of modern art is that it is a statement on the utter chaos and calamity that is modern society. It is not redeeming, or soothing, or compelling in and of itself... it's - at best - a desperate cry for help in a modern world which is effectively, figuratively and literally collapsing before our very eyes. It is the SCREAM as western civilization slips into the abyss. That's all it is. It's the last, desperate throes of a civilization DYING, not thriving. It's sad, but it's definitely not beautiful.
    That is 100 percent correct.

    I owe you a rep

    ETA - I read that again carefully and slowly.

    My brother, if anything remains after all this blows up, that may very well be the epitaph of Western Civilization.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-15-2023 at 12:14 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That is 100 percent correct.

    I owe you a rep
    Yeah I will agree. It's a modern Sodom and Gomorra, and I'm not religious at all but I do understand that concept.
    I do like a bit of freedom when it comes the arts, but we have come to a time where things do not have true meaning anymore but are just used as political tools.

    That definitely can be seen as society collapsing. Or transforming, whether you like where it's going or not.

    I'll bring this into it, there are too many people on the planet and nature, or as you may see it, God, has funny ways of solving that problem.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Where are all the bums with their rear-ends hanging out of the back of their pants?

    Oh, never mind... this was from a time when people held themselves in regard, regardless of their social status, and believed in presenting themselves like dignified human beings in public, rather than slovenly bums who couldn't care less about how they presented themselves to the world.
    Sad to say we all, in our youth, probably mocked them, for being stuffy and uptight.

    That's what happens to a society that takes it's "virtues" from idiot teen agers and women.

    “As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.” Isiah 3:12

    I am old enough to remember when women wore dresses and gloves to go shopping and people dressed in their Sunday best to take a train ride or an airplane flight.

    You take a close look at the people in an airport lately?

    Can't tell the passengers from the bums anymore.

    All these people in "therapy" because they are depressed...ever take at look at the state of their homes or the insides of their cars?

    My daughter was horrible for that, driving around in rolling pig pen. No wonder you are confused and anxious, I'd blow my brains out if had to live in that filth everyday.

    When did you get so poor it kept you from taking the trash out.

    Look at what this guy deals with on a regular basis cleaning cars.



    People better start to straighten the $#@! up, before we find ourselves in a Chinese concentration camp.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-15-2023 at 07:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    I'll bring this into it, there are too many people on the planet and nature, or as you may see it, God, has funny ways of solving that problem.
    Yes, there are and you know what the solution is?

    Wealth created by western civilization's concepts of free markets, property rights, savings and thrift, forward thinking, knowledge and enlightenment.

    All of which are now racist symbols of white supremacy.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Unlike the 1940s.

    Directed by the great Frank Capra.

    Propaganda?

    Damn right it was...and we could use a whole metric $#@! ton of it again.

    It's still worth fighting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    YOU didn't inject politics into it, my man. THEY did.

    I visited Prague in 1996, just 6-7 years after the fall.

    The MOST noticeable thing about Prague, besides the old town - Charles Bridge, St. Vitus Cathedral - was the GAWD AWFUL architecture of the city!
    There are several place like that in Hungary. Veszprém is one. There is another I saw in the eastern end by Miskolc... I cannot for the life of me recall the name, though in the day it was something like Stalin City. It was one of the most depressing sights imaginable, making Detroit look like a cheerful, life-filled place. Gray concrete blocks in the Bauhaus style, minus whatever thin slice of god there may be i that bakrupt expression of the communist "aesthetic". <BARF>

    It is, to any objective eye, an utter moral travesty. Jackson Pollack? Garbage. These modern so-called artists, who effectively vomit on a piece of canvas and we're supposed to rub our chins and imagine some kind of intent? NO, go fck yourselves. You're not saying anything. The only possible thing I can get out of modern art is that it is a statement on the utter chaos and calamity that is modern society.
    So called "modern art" was the invention of the left. Dadaism, cubism, and so forth down the line of that tediously timid ilk, all arose from the stilted creative intellects of the disaffected, disenfranchised vermin that included Picasso, who was a supremely talented artist who went down that path of dreary dullness on the false belief that they were blazing new trails when in fact all they were doing was demoting themselves to finger painters of a third-rate status.

    It is always amusing to watch people so desperate to be different that they and everyone in the group in which they hang end up all being fungible. Tattoos come to mind, as do Goths.

    It is not redeeming, or soothing, or compelling in and of itself...
    It was never meant to be any of those things... save compelling in that it is all intended to put people off-balance; to wreck their frames of reference that orient them to reality. The intention is nothing less that the pure and utter destruction of common perception such that people have no ability to render powerful judgments. If everything is relative, there is no right, no wrong, up or down. It's all good, which is precisely what Theye want people to think. We are living the greatest psyop ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    There are several place like that in Hungary. Veszprém is one. There is another I saw in the eastern end by Miskolc... I cannot for the life of me recall the name, though in the day it was something like Stalin City. It was one of the most depressing sights imaginable, making Detroit look like a cheerful, life-filled place. Gray concrete blocks in the Bauhaus style, minus whatever thin slice of god there may be i that bakrupt expression of the communist "aesthetic". <BARF>
    Eastern Europe is rife with such places. Likely even to this day (I would like to go back - haven't been there since the 90's). You could get a car for a good pair of Levi's, back then.

    So called "modern art" was the invention of the left. Dadaism, cubism, and so forth down the line of that tediously timid ilk, all arose from the stilted creative intellects of the disaffected, disenfranchised vermin that included Picasso, who was a supremely talented artist who went down that path of dreary dullness on the false belief that they were blazing new trails when in fact all they were doing was demoting themselves to finger painters of a third-rate status.
    Dadism, cubism, and the architecture... the utter, drab, lifeless architecture of the east, of the socialist bloc. Just wretched and soul-sucking.

    The Soviet Union lasted some 70 years to so many people, that was an entire lifetime... imagine living your entire life in such misery. God help us for what we're portending.

    It is always amusing to watch people so desperate to be different that they and everyone in the group in which they hang end up all being fungible. Tattoos come to mind, as do Goths.
    Sadly, so.

    It was never meant to be any of those things... save compelling in that it is all intended to put people off-balance; to wreck their frames of reference that orient them to reality. The intention is nothing less that the pure and utter destruction of common perception such that people have no ability to render powerful judgments. If everything is relative, there is no right, no wrong, up or down. It's all good, which is precisely what Theye want people to think. We are living the greatest psyop ever.
    It is all of this, and it is also the utter and compete destruction of beauty, and creation. It is the destruction of creativity, and artistry. These people think that they are creating art, but they are doing nothing of the sort - they are wiping their skinny little asses and imagining that they've created something. There is art in the effort. It takes effort to create. This notion that you can just chuck a can of paint at a piece of canvas and we're all just supposed to marvel at the "creativity" is the literal epitaph of Western Civilization.

    ETA: credit goes to @Anti Federalist for the phrase, " epitaph of Western Civilization"
    Last edited by A Son of Liberty; 01-15-2023 at 06:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post

    I'll bring this into it, there are too many people on the planet and nature, or as you may see it, God, has funny ways of solving that problem.
    Why on earth would you say this?

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    Let the record show that I was faithfully paying the pic tax all along.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Let the record show that I was faithfully paying the pic tax all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Collaborator.
    Collaboration theorist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Modern art is an utter travesty.
    I can appreciate some of the detail in the hands. It should be titled "Embracing the Snake".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Collaborator.
    correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I can appreciate some of the detail in the hands. It should be titled "Embracing the Snake".
    Embracing the turd.

    Literally, that is what it looks like to me, two hands holding a giant turd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Back during my impetuous youth, a group of us took LSD (that's Lake Shore Drive to you) and visited the Art Institute of Chicago. We walked in and saw Red Plank proudly displayed.



    We all just burst out laughing. But I do wonder if God is taking a similarly humorous view of the Golden Calf of Wall St.
    ...
    Well, if the complaint is dreary communist cement, at least it brings some color.

    Modern abstract expressionism art is the height of "participation award" culture. Anyone can do it, and at a minimum, you get appreciation for just doing it. You may even get some extra praise if you can come up with the proper description and explanation. Kind of like those fake scientific or academic papers that some group of people were passing off just to make fun of it all.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Embracing the turd.

    Literally, that is what it looks like to me, two hands holding a giant turd.
    That is the more obvious description, though I kind of like the biblical symbolism that comes with the snake.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I can appreciate some of the detail in the hands. It should be titled "Embracing the Snake".
    I would appreciate the detail in the hands if the hands were connected to anything that resembled arms, and the arms were then connected to anything resembling a human being. I understand what you're saying, but this isn't art, where art is understood to be a representation of life, and/or an interpretation of human life within a paradigm of mystery. This is just a piece of modern trash that has no meaning, like everything else these post modernists produce. Garbage. Congratulations on your hands. You created hands embracing garbage. Good job.

    Spit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Embracing the turd.

    Literally, that is what it looks like to me, two hands holding a giant turd.
    Turds are a recurring theme in modern public art. Meet the Quetzalpoop...which is actually intended to be a snake.

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    San Jose’s Quetzalcoatl: The story behind much-ridiculed poop statue
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Say hello to the man who, single handedly, destroyed classical composition.

    A leftist Jew that was immediately embraced by US Marxist academia after fleeing the Nazis in 1933.



    Best comment I think:

    Jason
    5 months ago
    It's just so meandering. not all who wander are lost, but this just plunks and plonks and squawks without getting us anywhere interesting in the end. like walking from one end of walmart to the other.
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    Now compare that noisome dreck to this, arguably one of Mozart's very best piano concertos:

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    Or this:

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    Or this:

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-15-2023 at 08:11 PM.
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    A favorite of mine from a favorite movie.

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