Trump threatens to seal U.S.-Mexico border over migrant caravan. Can he do it?

[TheCount]

not the (National) Guard — we’re calling up the military

LOL, poor Guard.

[goldenequity]

AFP Photo
Aerial view of a Honduran migrant caravan heading to the US, as it is stopped at a border barrier
on the Guatemala-Mexico international bridge

[Jamesiv1]

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[RicoCabeza]

OK, we all know that Trump is not against legal immigration, but rather against illegal immigration. We also know that Libtards refuse to debate with conservatives as they just cannot seem to win debates using rational arguments.

That being said, I am curious to know if any of you has vetted out the following:

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I thought that I was ‘awake’ , and then I woke up.

REMEMBER the documentary "America: Freedom To Fascism", which Red-Pilled so many people early on?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0
LATER the documentary "EUROPA - The Last Battle" was considered to be Level II Red-Pilling.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4W1ph9j_7c
AND the FOLLOWING Report is considered to be Level III Red-Pilling:
- https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9...FQM8v_bn4AfDEA

[phill4paul]

AFP Photo
Aerial view of a Honduran migrant caravan heading to the US, as it is stopped at a border barrier
on the Guatemala-Mexico international bridge

Multiply that number X 240 and that's how many cross over yearly.

[RJB]

Multiply that number X 240 and that's how many cross over yearly.

Awesome! Every day that I drive to work, I always think, "Gee, I wish there was more traffic on the road."

[James_Madison_Lives]

Article IV

Section 4

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;

It's not an invasion if they are not armed. These are asylum seekers. They are killing them and starving them back in their countries anyway. They figure they may as well die on the road. It's faster. They wouldn't have to do this if we stopped stopping their own revolutions.

[Dr.3D]

Because that's what an invading army does: carries their standard before them.

It's not an invasion if they are not armed. These are asylum seekers. They are killing them and starving them back in their countries anyway. They figure they may as well die on the road. It's faster. They wouldn't have to do this if we stopped stopping their own revolutions.

Since when do asylum seekers carry the banner of the country from which they are seeking asylum?

[James_Madison_Lives]

Since when do asylum seekers carry the banner of the country from which they are seeking asylum?

Ye agree they need to lose the flag. Probably something to do with being proud of your cultural heritage, or some misguided nonsense. Anyway the larger point is if we stopped stopping their own revolutions they wouldn't be so miserable. We hate on Castro but guess what, people eat there and they get a free education. The last guy they tried to grant US residence to, that father and his boy who got snatched from his uncle by Clinton's goons, didn't want it. He liked his job as an auto mechanic in Cuba. He liked socialism.

[Zippyjuan]

Because that's what an invading army does: carries their standard before them.

Check out all those guns and heavy arms this invading army is bringing with them! They are going to take over the US! Send in the US military!!!

[Swordsmyth]

It's not an invasion if they are not armed. These are asylum seekers. They are killing them and starving them back in their countries anyway. They figure they may as well die on the road. It's faster. They wouldn't have to do this if we stopped stopping their own revolutions.

They don't have to be armed to be an invasion, they seek to come here and take things from us including our liberty and they are quite willing to be violent as they have shown.

We should stay out of other countries' affairs but until we manage to make that happen we must also protect ourselves from invasion.

[Swordsmyth]

Check out all those guns and heavy arms this invading army is bringing with them! They are going to take over the US! Send in the US military!!!

The Demoncrats will let them vote to take over America and give them our money until we are bankrupt, it's an invasion.

[James_Madison_Lives]

They don't have to be armed to be an invasion, they seek to come here and take things from us including our liberty and they are quite willing to be violent as they have shown.

We should stay out of other countries' affairs but until we manage to make that happen we must also protect ourselves from invasion.

No we should reverse the damage. We should overthrow their dictators for them and start them out with a clean slate. Tell that Honduras president he sux and he has 48 hours to leave town, like Saddam. Else we go in and kick him out. Then make some indigenous woman they've been torturing in a political prison president, and let them have their own kind of country. Look at the town in Mexico where the Indians kicked out the local government, and now there is no crime. Just armed citizen militias. Of course it was the women who started it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37612083

[Zippyjuan]

The Demoncrats will let them vote to take over America and give them our money until we are bankrupt, it's an invasion.

They have to become citizens first. Maybe Republicans should try to woo them instead of leaving them to the Democrats.

[Swordsmyth]

They have to become citizens first.

LOL

Not only is that not true but the Demoncrats want to give them citizenship.

[Swordsmyth]

No we should reverse the damage. We should overthrow their dictators for them and start them out with a clean slate.

More intervention will not turn out well but even if you think that it would we still must protect ourselves from invasion until then.

[angelatc]

This stroller costs almost $400 new.

[Zippyjuan]

This stroller costs almost $400 new.

Looks more like $150 new in the US- and that one is not new based on the fading. https://thenightlight.com/the-best-umbrella-stroller/

[devil21]

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Good thing you edited that picture back out. You almost let everyone know that you fully support opening fire on immigrants at the border. Putting up machine gun turrets and shooting people when they cross the border sure would not MAGA and definitely would not help any Republican cause.

[James_Madison_Lives]

More intervention will not turn out well but even if you think that it would we still must protect ourselves from invasion until then.

So if they dropped the flag what would you do?

[Swordsmyth]

So if they dropped the flag what would you do?

Keep them out, the flag is just more evidence of their intent.

[Swordsmyth]

Good thing you edited that picture back out. You almost let everyone know that you fully support opening fire on immigrants at the border. Putting up machine gun turrets and shooting people when they cross the border sure would not MAGA and definitely would not help any Republican cause.

[angelatc]

Looks more like $150 new in the US- and that one is not new based on the fading. https://thenightlight.com/the-best-umbrella-stroller/

THat's an outdated link and a lower end model. Note the color of the back. The price is lower now - it was $368 when I posted: https://www.amazon.com/Maclaren-Tech...pSrc=srch&th=1

[Anti Globalist]

We have to secure our borders. Without borders we don't have a country.

[Zippyjuan]

THat's an outdated link.

So is the stroller in the picture. Still available at that price. Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Maclaren-Triu...nltopbuybtn-20

Wheels (black in the middle instead of grey) and straps in your link don't match the ones in the photo of the kid. It seems to be the older model.

[eleganz]

Actually, the libertarian position has always been open borders. It was once the libertarian movement was absorbed mostly into the GOP that suddenly libertarians became border enforcement advocates.

No matter what you personally believe, a border is an imaginary line drawn on a map meant to induce tribal notions that lead tribes to engage in wars. I believe that people generally self-segregate into groups of people that are like them, if left to their own devices, but the use of borders and countries is for little more than claiming ownership over people (see: British empire) and motivating them to attack other groups of people on behalf of the owners by claiming the other group is a "threat". This theme repeats throughout history. "Go fight 'em over there so we don't have to fight 'em here!" It's still used today. Once the notion of "borders" no longer serves that purpose and all the lands of the planet are under the control of the owners (almost there!), "borders" will be eliminated from the maps and thus revealed to be the imaginary invention they always were.

Not sure if you got my sarcasm there.

Point is, enforcing borders is much easier than it is to end welfare. Any president that ends welfare can kiss their next term goodbye and its guaranteed the welfare would be voted back in.

[Swordsmyth]

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) suggested that President Donald Trump might have to declare martial law along the southern border of the United States to prevent a large group of Central American refugees and migrants from entering the country.
Gohmert appeared Tuesday on the “Todd Starnes Radio Show,” a Fox News program, to discuss the so-called migrant caravan, a group of thousands of migrants currently en route to the United States to seek asylum or residence.
Starnes called the group of mostly Honduran nationals a “mob.”
“If, in fact, this mob heads towards California, what’s gonna happen then?” Starnes asked Gohmert. “Because [Democratic governor] Jerry Brown will welcome them. You know it’s a sanctuary state. Do you think the president will allow that to happen?”
“I don’t think the president will allow that to happen,” Gohmert replied, suggesting that Trump could send troops to the borders over Brown’s objections and that the California governor would be committing treason by aiding the migrants.
“This has got to be so massive, I mean, you might have to declare martial law along the border,” Gohmert said. “And the Democrats have been to stupid to realize that encouraging this caravan they may actually empower the president to do things they never wanted.”
When Starnes asked Gohmert what “martial law” would look like, the congressman responded that it would mean “federal troops coming in and being at the border, and if anyone tried to stop them, they could be dealt with.”
“You would probably need federal law enforcement to be there to arrest any Americans who might try to stop it,” he elaborated. “The military needs to have their weapons pointed towards Mexico and not toward the American people, but it may be that we have to have enough federal law enforcement, and maybe we have to have the National Guard if Jerry Brown is going to force the issue ― but I hope and pray he won’t be so stupid as to try to stop the U.S. government from enforcing our border because then we’re talking treasonous-type acts.”

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/congressm...001532086.html

[jmdrake]

One millimeter on this side of it is. One millimeter on the other side of it is "foreign". Are you going to argue about the width of the border line?

Obviously Trump will invade Mexico. Problem solved.

[jmdrake]

All George Soros has to do is buy 1 acre of land on the U.S. / Mexico border and you "solution" is moot.

[goldenequity]

The Associated Press‏@AP · 3 min.
BREAKING: AP source: Defense Secretary Mattis expected to sign order to send at least 800 troops to US-Mexico border.
https://apnews.com/e7ffd2d5764244cdb1d1474bd895a863

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ma...rts-2018-10-25
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/25/polit...der/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/25/...to-border.html