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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Southron View Post
    I'm not a WN but stuff that happened today is just going to radicalise more young people and push more of them into the WN camp.
    WN? are you referring to wingnuts?
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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    Hate White. Hate Black. Hate South. Hate North. Divide. Conquer.

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  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Me.
    Me too , I prefer football to white nationalists , liberals , communists , socialists , national socialists , democrats ,malaria , the plague , snakebite etc.

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Me too , I prefer football to white nationalists , liberals , communists , socialists , national socialists , democrats ,malaria , the plague , snakebite etc.
    it is football season with your Sounders rising up the table (16 points out of their last 6 games!)
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  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    The main stream media tells me today that many prominent Republicans are disappointed that Trump did not denounce both white supremacists and the alt right. I didn't realize they were the same thing until the main stream media corrected my thinking today.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/politi...sts/index.html
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    How does that reasoning account for the fact that cops kill more white people than black people?

    Or the Somali cop that killed the white woman a few weeks back in Minnesota?

    Could it possibly be that you're seeing "blowback" from a year now of direct threats from all manner of voices on the left to kill people on the right?

    Including a mass assassination attempt that included the son of the man this forum is named after?
    Because there are more white people in the country. If it was random, those killed would be about 60% white. It's actually less than half.
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  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    Because there are more white people in the country. If it was random, those killed would be about 60% white. It's actually less than half.
    If the only reason cops kill us Mundanes is racism, then the number would be zero, or close enough to zero to be statistically insignificant.

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    Because there are more white people in the country. If it was random, those killed would be about 60% white. It's actually less than half.
    No, because blacks commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes.
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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    If the only reason cops kill us Mundanes is racism, then the number would be zero, or close enough to zero to be statistically insignificant.
    It's 100% about color and you can't seriously deny that. Blue is all that matters to most cops.
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  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    It's 100% about color and you can't seriously deny that. Blue is all that matters to most cops.
    If that is the "color" you mean then you are right, it's the gang mentality and the power trip that are the reverse side of their internal cowardice that causes Kops to kill with such enthusiasm.
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  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    interesting thread title change, I wonder what prompted that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Technical limits when putting a post on the front page.
    Eta, still a good headline to drive the point home.
    I'm not sure I agree. Many people in the "liberty" movement have affinity for the rally that took place.

    Definition affinity:

    1: relationship by marriage
    2.
    a : sympathy marked by community of interest
    :

    b (1) : an attraction to or liking for something

    (2)
    : an attractive force between substances or particles that causes them to enter into and remain in chemical combination
    c : a person especially of the opposite sex having a particular attraction for one

    3.
    a : likeness based on relationship or causal connection
    b : a relation between biological groups involving resemblance in structural plan and indicating a common origin
    I at the very least have sympathy for what happened to them. They were law abiding citizens that attempting to exercise their freedom of speech and were attacked, vilified and had the govt work against them.

    I would argue some of their goals are the same as mine and many others in the "liberty movement" as well. Certainly not all of them, but to claim there is NO affinity is bull$#@!. Many of the $#@!s that attacked them, threw urine on them and maced them would just as soon do it to anybody in the "liberty" bowel movement as well.

  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    No, because blacks commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes.
    Black neighborhoods have vastly less police presence.
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  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I'm not sure I agree. Many people in the "liberty" movement have affinity for the rally that took place.

    Definition affinity:


    I at the very least have sympathy for what happened to them. They were law abiding citizens that attempting to exercise their freedom of speech and were attacked, vilified and had the govt work against them.

    I would argue some of their goals are the same as mine and many others in the "liberty movement" as well. Certainly not all of them, but to claim there is NO affinity is bull$#@!. Many of the $#@!s that attacked them, threw urine on them and maced them would just as soon do it to anybody in the "liberty" bowel movement as well.
    Yup, this.

    I'll repeat again, one of their fellow travelers attempted an assassination of the most prominent member of the "liberty movement".

  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Black neighborhoods have vastly less police presence.
    That's not what BLM says..

    Just the opposite in fact.

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    The thing is, I really REALLY find it hard to believe that there are so many white nationalists. We heard practically NOTHING from them in 8 years of Obama president (wouldn't you expect protests every day for his 2 terms? even the crickets weren't chirping), then you tell me they are going to come out in force and protest over removal of a statue they've probably never even looked at.

    Good fuel for the narrators, though.
    First, nobody cared about the statue. That was just the excuse for the rally.

    As to where the WN were, they weren't of age. Bulk of the attendees yesterday were part of Generation Zyklon. They are the most radicalized generation in modern American history. 80% support President Trump. And who can blame them? The policies of cucks like Ryan and Hatch have created a situation where that generation is looking a world where if they don't act, America will be a minority white country. Do you know what minority white countries look like? Zimbabwe. South Africa. Best case scenario, Brazil (which is still a hell hole and sinks lower every year). These kids are literally fighting for their survival. They don't have the luxury of being dead when the $#@! hits the fan (like the Boomer Cucks).

    Anyway, Leftist narrative of the car crash now totally falling apart. /Pol/ uncovered video of the car being attacked by a black guy with a bat immediately before it starts accelerating. This is what the police initially told the reporter from The Hill who was on the scene at the Police Station when the guy was brought in- that the accident wasn't malicious and he had been operating out of fear for his own safety:

    http://www.departmentofmemes.com/art...-baseball-bat/

    Finally, for a true Libertarian perspective, Augustus Invictus' fireside chat summary of yesterday's events:

    https://www.facebook.com/augustus.in...1523401180760/

  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    First, nobody cared about the statue. That was just the excuse for the rally.
    Nobody? No locals came because they liked the park the way it is, and hate the idea of crazy California progs pressuring Virginians to change their pretty park? No one believes the Civil War shouldn't be erased, because if we don't learn from our mistakes we will repeat them? No one was there to fight for that statue as a symbol of free speech?

    No one at all?

    You described your motives. But you didn't describe every attendee's motives.
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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Black neighborhoods have vastly less police presence.
    Not where I live,
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  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Black neighborhoods have vastly less police presence.
    I'm just wondering if you have ever lived in a black neighborhood. Hell ever spent significant amounts of time in one? Ever been in a long term engagement/situation eg: school where blacks were the majority?

  22. #139
    TheCount is trolling - as always.

  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    How does that reasoning account for the fact that cops kill more white people than black people?

    Or the Somali cop that killed the white woman a few weeks back in Minnesota?

    Could it possibly be that you're seeing "blowback" from a year now of direct threats from all manner of voices on the left to kill people on the right?

    Including a mass assassination attempt that included the son of the man this forum is named after?
    There was an attempt on Rand Paul?
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

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    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    There was an attempt on Rand Paul?
    He was a likely target at the Baseball game shooting that put Scalise in the hospital.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 08-13-2017 at 10:08 PM.
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  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    There was an attempt on Rand Paul?
    The baseball game that was shot up recently, Randal Paul was on the field. If the guy had not been shot, it is very possible Randal would have been killed.
    Last edited by specsaregood; 08-13-2017 at 09:43 PM.

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Many of the $#@!s that attacked them, threw urine on them and maced them would just as soon do it to anybody in the "liberty" bowel movement as well.
    Yup, this.

    I'll repeat again, one of their fellow travelers attempted an assassination of the most prominent member of the "liberty movement".
    What you're missing is that the other side would do exactly the same thing: and will, when they gain sufficient followers.

    ...thanks to, dare I say, libertarian "cucks"

  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    The baseball game that was shot up recently, Randal Paul was on the field. If the guy had not been shot, it is very possible Randall would have been killed.
    Forgot about that. Thanks.
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    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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  29. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What you're missing is that the other side would do exactly the same thing: and will, when they gain sufficient followers.

    ...thanks to, dare I say, libertarian "cucks"
    I think we've had enough doom and gloom for today.

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What you're missing is that the other side would do exactly the same thing: and will, when they gain sufficient followers.

    ...thanks to, dare I say, libertarian "cucks"
    I disagree. Because they would be living in their own little separate communities where libertarian cucks wouldn't have to live. And I think the right for white nationalists to live by themselves is a right that all Libertarians would support.
    Last edited by specsaregood; 08-13-2017 at 09:49 PM.

  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    TheCount is trolling - as always.

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  32. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I disagree. Because they would be living in their own little separate communities where libertarian cucks wouldn't have to live. And I think the right for white nationalists to live by themselves is a right that all Libertarians would support.
    You need to disavow this statement immediately. It is too difficult for most people to parse and could make libertarians look bad. Please make sure also to record your views in this poll - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...arian-Movement . Failure to do so may result in your posting privileges revoked and quite possibly make Rev3.0 very unhappy. /s

  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    First, nobody cared about the statue. That was just the excuse for the rally.

    As to where the WN were, they weren't of age. Bulk of the attendees yesterday were part of Generation Zyklon. They are the most radicalized generation in modern American history. 80% support President Trump. And who can blame them? The policies of cucks like Ryan and Hatch have created a situation where that generation is looking a world where if they don't act, America will be a minority white country. Do you know what minority white countries look like?
    Dixie was a minority white country. So was Haiti... I see where this going. (Don't get me wrong, Sherman was a bastard. I've read what Savannah was really like before the war.)

    The white man's purely the product of ethnic cleansing. Whiteness wouldn't matter a damn, if it wasn't for suburbia: that progressive attempt at post-war, Leninist social engineering (e.g. Levittown, NY). Race is almost moot by comparison to ethnicity. They get no sympathy from me, by selling out to be tools of the Warfare-Wellfare State, which plundered their great grandparents' cultures in the first place. I'd sooner see white America disappear.

  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I disagree. Because they would be living in their own little separate communities where libertarian cucks wouldn't have to live. And I think the right for white nationalists to live by themselves is a right that all Libertarians would support.
    No, that is a dream...

    What's actually happening is that the alt-right types are actively, consciously, methodically subverting libertarianism.

    ...so as to claim the "anti-establishment" high ground.

    ...which, in their case, means the socialistic status quo plus racism.

    ...and some libertarians are eating it up like the fools the alt-right thinks they are.

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