Amash is at it again

[acptulsa]

Representatives Amash (R-MI) and Lofgren (D-CA) have proposed an amendment to one of the mini-omnibus bills to curb NSA domestic data reaping under 702. I can't find the specific bill, but it may be HR 2740. Anyone still interested in activism might keep and eye out for it, and might just call their representative and let them know they're being watched.

I now turn this thread over to the shylls to tell us we'd rather be spied on by the NSA than lift one finger to back a California Democrat or a non-Trumpsucking Republican.

[invisible]

Ah, so that explains the sudden intense propaganda campain against Amash here!

[enhanced_deficit]

This would lead to increased attacks on Amash from pro globalist interventions/pro wars neocons , swamp wing cheerleaders etc.

Would Amash be the alternative Republican/Libertarian leadership if GOP-MAGA wing faltered in 2020 as appears to be pretty likely now after recent UK blunder?

[PAF]

Did I miss trumps tweet rallying his base to contact their reps concerning this to MAGA?

Justin Amash, still the top Congressman in the house.

[dannno]

Ok, I will call Dianne $#@!ing Feinstein and ask her to support the bill when it gets to the Senate, because I wouldn't want some insane person with TDS to think I'm a "shill for the establishment" lol....


Talk about propaganda.. this thread is a prime example.

[jmdrake]

Ok, I will call Dianne $#@!ing Feinstein and ask her to support the bill when it gets to the Senate, because I wouldn't want some insane person with TDS to think I'm a "shill for the establishment" lol....


Talk about propaganda.. this thread is a prime example.

Well one of your insane buddies with TSDS (Trump Supporter's Derangement Syndrome) compared me to Bernie Sanders simply for pointing out that Trump's bumpfire stock ban by executive order was a bad precedent so we're even.

[jkr]

AN EXCELLENT MOVE
that SHOULD NOT be necessary...

IS EVERY GENERATION GOING TO HAVE TO REITERATE THE BILL OF RIGHTS SO THE WONT USE THE BILL OF WRONGS?

[spudea]

Amash and Lofgren sponsored the same amendment in Jan 2018 and it was voted down.

[Origanalist]

Ok, I will call Dianne $#@!ing Feinstein and ask her to support the bill when it gets to the Senate, because I wouldn't want some insane person with TDS to think I'm a "shill for the establishment" lol....


Talk about propaganda.. this thread is a prime example.

I heard you and Dianne were an item.

[spudea]

Did I miss trumps tweet rallying his base to contact their reps concerning this to MAGA?

Justin Amash, still the top Congressman in the house.

The NSA surveillance abuses are hated just the same. You will find a sympathetic ear in POTUS. If I were Amash, I would call President Trump and ask for his support. Too bad he burned that bridge with his insane lies about impeachment.

[nobody's_hero]

This has substance and isn't based on media falsehood and whipped up frenzy.

Are we sure we want to dedicate our time to this, instead of continuing to follow the MSM's cues on where to look for evil Russian super-villians?

Maybe I should call Amash's office and tell him not to lose sight of the Russian boogeymen.

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(Seriously though, this is more like it. This is the kind of stuff Amash should be/have been focused on))

[Ender]

The NSA surveillance abuses are hated just the same. You will find a sympathetic ear in POTUS. If I were Amash, I would call President Trump and ask for his support. Too bad he burned that bridge with his insane lies about impeachment.

Really.

Is that why the British home secretary has just signed a request from the US for Julian Assange to be extradited- where he faces an 18-count indictment, issued by the US Department of Justice?
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/06/...assange-to-us/

So much sympathy.

[nikcers]

My objectivity has never been more clear. Rand said he had his campaign spied on, Trump had his campaign spied on too, but lets impeach Trump because they couldn't find anything when they spied on him.. Mike Pence isn't a neocon who would put us to war with Iran. I will call my representatives immediately and tell them to support impeachment immediately

#MikePence2019

[dannno]

My objectivity has never been more clear. Rand said he had his campaign spied on, Trump had his campaign spied on too, but lets impeach Trump because they couldn't find anything when they spied on him.. Mike Pence isn't a neocon who would put us to war with Iran. I will call my representatives immediately and tell them to support impeachment immediately

#MikePence2019

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Rainbow-Snatch

[Swordsmyth]

The NSA surveillance abuses are hated just the same. You will find a sympathetic ear in POTUS. If I were Amash, I would call President Trump and ask for his support. Too bad he burned that bridge with his insane lies about impeachment.

^^^THIS^^^


I will absolutely support Amash in this even if it hasn't a chance of passing but it does NOTHING to absolve him of supporting the same illegal spying against Trump.

[acptulsa]

Ok, I will call Dianne $#@!ing Feinstein and ask her to support the bill when it gets to the Senate, because I wouldn't want some insane person with TDS to think I'm a "shill for the establishment" lol....


Talk about propaganda.. this thread is a prime example.

You're going to call a Senator and tell her to vote for an amendment to a House bill? Or you're going to tell a Senator to vote for a House bill because of an amendment that hasn't been added to it yet, without telling her to ensure it gets added first, and ensure the Senate version includes it too? Even though House members are obviously easier to persuade, because you're clearly a larger percentage of his or her constituency than a senator of an overpopulated state? Do you even know who your Rep is?

Good, dannno. *pats head* Your value as an activist is on par with your ability to spot--or even define--propaganda.

[oyarde]

Ah, so that explains the sudden intense propaganda campain against Amash here!

I doubt it . Doubt anyone knows about it .

[oyarde]

Also , whoever called JMDrake bernie sanders , that is just wrong .

[oyarde]

I think it is great Amash is doing this . I would not even want to be in the same room as lofgren , disgusting . This is how they need to earn all that money . Doing jobs nobody else would .

[Anti Globalist]

Hoping the amendment gets passed but I doubt it.

[enhanced_deficit]

The NSA surveillance abuses are hated just the same. You will find a sympathetic ear in POTUS. If I were Amash, I would call President Trump and ask for his support. Too bad he burned that bridge with his insane lies about impeachment.

MAGA team should not take lightly persistent narratives being built in social media to paint MAGA team/its funders as B team of Deep Stage/neocons, unfortunately this is not 2016 and no longer have advanatge of being underdogs and no track record.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6F6dZ0Qqg

Trump 'errs on the side of security'--supports Patriot Act and NSA metadata collection

Trump: Restore the Patriot Act

[nikcers]

MAGA team should not take lightly persistent narratives being built in social media to paint MAGA team/its funders as B team of Deep Stage/neocons, unfortunately this is not 2016 and no longer have advanatge of being underdogs and no track record.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6F6dZ0Qqg

Trump 'errs on the side of security'--supports Patriot Act and NSA metadata collection

Trump: Restore the Patriot Act

Tulsi Gabbard is the new Obama.

[enhanced_deficit]

Tulsi Gabbard is the new Obama.

Could be. But to be fair she has been pretty vocal against ISIS unlike Obama (lately there is resurgence of ISIS and Dems may label MAGA as 'Founding Father of ISIS 2.0' during debates).

Also, MAGA was previously seen as Netanyahu of GOP-Adelson money wing by hard right conservatives.

[nikcers]

Could be. But to be fair she has been pretty vocal against ISIS unlike Obama (lately there is resurgence of ISIS and Dems may label MAGA as 'Founding Father of ISIS 2.0' during debates).

Also, MAGA was previously seen as Netanyahu of GOP-Adelson money wing by hard right conservatives.

Obama created ISIS so they would have an enemey to fight in every corner of the world and keep Israel and other countries in the middle east beholden to us for protection, she has consponsered a ton of pro Israel legislation, one of them to authorize force again Iran.

[TheCount]

The NSA surveillance abuses are hated just the same. You will find a sympathetic ear in POTUS.

If that's true, then why have neither Trump nor his flunkies ever suggested any sort of changes to domestic surveillance laws?

[nikcers]

If that's true, then why have neither Trump nor his flunkies ever suggested any sort of changes to domestic surveillance laws?

The deep state will attack him for anything like that, he has to color between the lines otherwise his presidency is over and he can't do good for the country. He would probably feel more comfortable going after the deep state if he had more public support.

[TheCount]

The deep state will attack him for anything like that, he has to color between the lines otherwise his presidency is over and he can't do good for the country. He would probably feel safter to go after the deep state if he had more public support.

It's all part of his plan to get rid of Paul Ryan.

[nikcers]

It's all part of his plan to get rid of Paul Ryan.

Are you pretending like there is public support to get rid of the broken laws? When Rand sparred with Chris Christie in the debates he polled lower with Republicans than Chris Christie on the "get a warrant" issue. If more people demanded the government needs a warrant to surveill an American citizen than he could do it, otherwise it would eat at his support and they would use it against him.

[TheCount]

Are you pretending like there is public support to give rid of the broken laws? When Rand sparred with Chris Christie in the debates he polled lower with Republicans than Chris Christie on the "get a warrant" issue. If more peoplle demanded the government needs a warrant to surveill an American citizen than he could do it, otherwise it would eat at his support and they would use it against him.

Trump can evidently convince Trumpkins that up is down and black is white, and he's been beating the 'I was spied on' drum since 2016. If the Invertebrate-American population believes that the deep state is real and that the deep state uses domestic surveillance against fine, upstanding liberty-minded folks like Trump, it should take no effort to convince them that the logical solution is to at the very least revamp FISA.

Rand had that debate at a time when the Trumpkin believed that government power was a weapon to be used against brown people. Now they at least vaguely understand that it is also a weapon that also works against white people.

(This exclusively applies to intelligence agencies. They've gone the opposite way on police power, and support it more vigorously than ever.)

[nikcers]

Trump can evidently convince Trumpkins that up is down and black is white, and he's been beating the 'I was spied on' drum since 2016. If the Invertebrate-American population believes that the deep state is real and that the deep state uses domestic surveillance against fine, upstanding liberty-minded folks like Trump, it should take no effort to convince them that the logical solution is to at the very least revamp FISA.

Rand had that debate at a time when the Trumpkin believed that government power was a weapon to be used against brown people. Now they at least vaguely understand that it is also a weapon that also works against white people.

(This exclusively applies to intelligence agencies. They've gone the opposite way on police power, and support it more vigorously than ever.)

Rand said his campaign was sureveilled, you don't think Trump was spied on by the deep state?