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Finally getting down to the mustard.
@SlawomirDebski
Former President of France @fhollande said in Warsaw that in response to Russia’s aggressive policy towards Europe, including Ukraine...
the North Stream 2 should be blocked. “We, in Europe, can live without Russian gas”.
bingo.
When asked by a Reuters reporter if Russia planned to expel British diplomats from Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov smiled and said: “We will, of course.”
Separately, discussing the response to Russian sactions, Ryabkov said that "For our part, we have ensured parity in the number of individuals included in the sanctions lists from the very beginning. So we will replenish our ‘blacklist’ with another group of US individuals,” Ryabkov said.
According to the deputy minister, Russia does not want to suspend dialogue with the United States, noting that the future retaliatory measures were not Moscow’s choice.
"We're only doing this because of US political stubbornness and unwillingness to perceive reality. We may take additional steps, which we will calibrate in accordance with our own interests and, of course, the need to not suspend dialogue completely in order to at least begin stabilizing bilateral relations with Washington … We reaffirm that our resolve will not be weakened by any opponents' intrigues, many of whom are beyond the Atlantic Ocean,” Ryabkov said.
On Thursday, the US Treasury Department announced sanctions against 19 Russian individuals and five entities, including Russia's Federal Security Service and the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) for their alleged roles related to the interference in the 2016 presidential campaign in the United States.
More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...crisis-deepens
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Salisbury Breaking: Putin Passport found at the crime scene Breaking! Breaking!
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TASS
Russia presses charges over Yulia Skripal's attempted murder, businessman's death in UK
http://tass.com/politics/994559
► Russia’s Investigative Committee has launched criminal cases over the attempted murder of Yulia Skripal, the daughter of ex-intelligence officer Sergei Skripal, and the death of Nikolai Glushkov, a close associate of late tycoon Boris Berezovsky
►another criminal case has been launched over the London death of Nikolai Glushkov
►Glushkov was found dead [hung] in his London home on March 12.
In the 1990s, he served as deputy managing director at Russia’s flag carrier Aeroflot and worked for Berezovsky’s LogoVAZ car company.
In 2000, he was arrested in connection with the embezzlement of Aeroflot’s funds, and later charged with fraud and money laundering.
Glushkov lived in the United Kingdom as he had been granted political asylum there in 2010.
In March 2017, Moscow’s Savelovsky District Court handed him a second eight-year sentence in absentia for the embezzlement of Aeroflot’s funds.
►investigation will be conducted in accordance with the Russian legislation and international law
►to engage highly qualified experts" and was ready to cooperate with British law enforcement agencies.
TASS
London not responding to Russian embassy’s inquiry on probe into Glushkov’s murder
http://tass.com/materials
UK BREACHES INT'L LAW BY DENYING RUSSIA ACCESS TO SKRIPAL'S DAUGHTER - RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR IN LONDON
Interfax
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Corbyn Calls for Evidence in Escalating Poison Row
For requesting evidence of Russian culpability in the poisoning of former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, UK Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn has been denounced by PM Theresa May and even members of his own party. We discuss the case with Stephen F. Cohen, Professor Emeritus of Russian Studies at New York University and Princeton:
As French President Emmanuel Macron pushes for the draft, NATO is creating conditions for wars in which large draftee armies could be deployed. And as May’s threats show, events are moving towards not only war in the Middle East, but also a clash with a nuclear-armed opponent, Russia. The debate in France also points to political issues behind May’s decision to escalate a confrontation with Russia before any serious investigation of the Skripal affair takes place. Behind the rush to judgment in this as-yet unclarified case, powerful factions of the European ruling class are working out how to mount a military escalation aimed at Russia, Turkey and Syria.
The first signal came on Monday evening from ex-President François Hollande, who pushed for a NATO war with Syria in 2013 despite Russian opposition, and then had to make a humiliating climb-down after Washington decided not to attack. Having abandoned public life last year, after taking the unprecedented decision not to run for re-election due to his unpopularity, he emerged from retirement to call for war in Le Monde.
Hollande laid out a stunning list of targets. Implicitly taking Macron’s policy to task, he warned about Russia and its ties to Turkey and Syria:
“Russia has been rearming for years now, and if it is threatening, it must be threatened. By allowing Ankara to bomb our Kurdish allies in Syria, Moscow is also trying to divide NATO. Barely a year ago, [Russian President] Vladimir Putin could not find harsh enough words for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Now, these two countries have agreed on a partition of Syria.”Hollande stressed that what is at stake is not just Syria, but the world order and French imperialism’s position in it:
“The issue is how to respond to Vladimir Putin, not so much how to respond to [Syrian President] Bashar al-Assad. … The West must realize the true scope of the danger.”Implicitly referring to Macron’s calls for dialog with Putin, Hollande added that “talking to Putin” should not mean “letting him advance his interests unchecked,” and that since Trump is unpredictable, “it is up to France, Europe, NATO to take action.”
Beyond Russia, he called for enforcing no-fly zones in Syria against Syrian and Turkish planes in Ghouta and Afrin—that is, shooting them down if they were in these areas—asking,
“What sort of ally is Turkey to launch strikes against our own allies?”Targeting Macron, he added,
“If I supported the Kurds in context of our coalition, it is not to leave them in their current situation. If I was very hard on Bashar al-Assad’s regime, and I was consistently hard, it was not to let him liquidate political opposition and massacre his own people.”Hollande’s comments drew a bitter retort from Macron defending his record since his election:
“Since last May, France has pursued a consistent and coherent policy, without being complicit but trying to be effective, by restoring dialog. These last years in Syria, has the absence of full dialog with Russia allowed us to progress further?”Without naming Hollande, Macron attacked him for calling for ground war when Hollande did not launch one himself in 2013:
“We must be clear, France will not intervene militarily on the ground in Syria. I say that very firmly. And I believe some people who are giving lessons today took the same decisions.”Nonetheless, Macron soon found himself facing an advocate of confrontation with Turkey in his own cabinet. Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, who was Hollande’s defence minister, criticized Turkey’s intervention in Afrin, declaring:
“The struggle against the Islamic State is the principal reason for our military intervention in the Levant. It is a national security priority, and we fear that the Turkish action there will ultimately weaken the pressure on the remaining IS forces in Syria.”And the Journal de Dimanche called for a “European response” to the Skripal case, pressing for the European Union (EU) to adopt London’s line against Moscow. Paris and Berlin, it wrote,
“discuss rather ‘frankly’ with Vladimir Putin, and cannot afford to remain silent. We cannot let Russia sink deeper rifts into the EU with such behavior. Italy, Greece, Hungary and other smaller countries are being wooed by Moscow to be more indulgent. If Europe wants to defend itself, and not only on cyber or energy issues, it must do so in unity.”A bitter battle is raging in the ruling elite. Yesterday, right-wing ex-prime minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin criticised May and warned of the potential for military escalation.
He said,
“I believe Mrs Theresa May went too far in this reaction before having any results of the inquiry, before having very precise elements to make a firm accusation. … When Mrs Theresa May appeals to British public opinion in order to alert it, to say ‘If we are attacked we will respond,’ naturally the Russians will answer, ‘If you respond, we will respond to your response’. That is called escalation, and that is what is dangerous.”Youth and workers must be warned: none of the politicians in this debate want peace. All are willing to send masses of people to fight overseas. Macron is calling for a return to the draft and stepped-up war in Mali; as prime minister, Raffarin oversaw the early stages of France’s intervention in Ivory Coast and participation in the NATO occupation of Afghanistan. They disagree not over whether to wage imperialist wars, but over the best strategy to wage them.
More at: https://www.globalresearch.ca/french...russia/5632403
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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Boris Johnson, directly accused Vladimir Putin, saying it was “overwhelmingly likely” that he personally ordered the nerve-agent attack on British soil. In a dramatic escalation of a diplomatic crisis between the two countries, the Foreign Secretary said the U.K.’s problem was not with the Russian people but with the Russian leader.Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
"Our quarrel is with Putin’s Kremlin and with his decision - and we think it overwhelmingly likely that it was his decision - to direct the use of a nerve agent on the streets of the U.K., on the streets of Europe, for the first time since World War II,” Johnson said in London.
"Our quarrel is with Putin's Kremlin" says @BorisJohnson as he responds to the #Salisbury poisoning pic.twitter.com/V93QLXS7kEPredictably, the Kremlin was furious, said that blaming Putin personally for Skripal's poisoning is “shocking and unforgivable."
— Sky News (@SkyNews) March 16, 2018
More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...s-putin-murder
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Update from Craig Murray: UK Lies
I have now received confirmation from a well-placed FCO source that Porton Down scientists are not able to identify the nerve agent as being of Russian manufacture, and have been resentful of the pressure being placed on them to do so.
Porton Down would only sign up to the formulation “of a type developed by Russia” after a rather difficult meeting where this was agreed as a compromise formulation. … This substance is a “novichok” in that sense. It is of that type. Just as I am typing on a laptop of a type developed by the United States, though this one was made in China.
To anybody with a Whitehall background this has been obvious for several days. The government has never said the nerve agent was made in Russia, or that it can only be made in Russia. The exact [phrase] “of a type developed by Russia” was used by Theresa May in parliament, used by the UK at the UN Security Council, used by Boris Johnson on the BBC yesterday and, most tellingly of all, “of a type developed by Russia” is the precise phrase used in the joint communique issued by the UK, USA, France and Germany yesterday …
When the same extremely careful phrasing is never deviated from, you know it is the result of a very delicate Whitehall compromise. My FCO source, like me, remembers the extreme pressure put on FCO staff and other civil servants to sign off the dirty dossier on Iraqi WMD …
Separately I have written to the media office at OPCW to ask them to confirm that there has never been any physical evidence of the existence of Russian Novichoks, and the program of inspection and destruction of Russian chemical weapons was completed last year.
Did you know these interesting facts?
OPCW inspectors have had full access to all known Russian chemical weapons facilities for over a decade – including those identified by the “Novichok” alleged whistleblower Mirzayanov – and last year OPCW inspectors completed the destruction of the last …
By contrast the program of destruction of US chemical weapons stocks still has five years to run.
Israel has extensive stocks of chemical weapons but has always refused to declare any of them to the OPCW. Israel is not a state party to the Chemical Weapons Convention nor a member of the OPCW. Israel signed in 1993 but refused to ratify as this would mean inspection and destruction of its chemical weapons. Israel undoubtedly has as much technical capacity as any state to synthesise “Novichoks”.
Until this week, the near universal belief among chemical weapons experts, and the official position of the OPCW, was that “Novichoks” were at most a theoretical research program which the Russians had never succeeded in actually synthesizing and manufacturing. …
Porton Down is still not certain it is the Russians who have apparently synthesized a “Novichok”. Hence “Of a type developed by Russia”. Note developed, not made, produced or manufactured. It is very carefully worded propaganda. Of a type developed by liars.
Last edited by AZJoe; 03-16-2018 at 07:15 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.
Off-Guardian on UK's Exposed Lies:
Former UK ambassador Craig Murray has released the following information on his blog …“I have now received confirmation from a well placed FCO source that Porton Down scientists are not able to identify the nerve gas as being of Russian manufacture, and have been resentful of the pressure being placed on them to do so. Porton Down would only sign up to the formulation “of a type developed by Russia” after a rather difficult meeting where this was agreed as a compromise formulation.
…Until this week, the near universal belief among chemical weapons experts, and the official position of the OPCW, was that “Novichoks” were at most a theoretical research program which the Russians had never succeeded in actually synthesizing and manufacturing. … It is very carefully worded propaganda. Of a type developed by liars.”
Such an admission from such a source is damning, and devastating for the government’s bid to create momentum for fresh international action against Russia. … enough to be sure Theresa May was effectively lying to the British parliament.
It’s an indication, if any more were needed, that extreme skepticism is required here. An undisclosed agenda is driving things and driving them so hard even members of the political establishment are concerned. Until we know what the true aims are we simply can’t accept anything told to us at face value. Everything should be open to question.
So, what do we currently know with reasonable certainty?1. We can be fairly sure a man called Sergey Skripal really exists. …
2. We can be fairly sure Yulia really was in Salisbury at the time of the incident and has been unable to communicate with the outside world since that time. …
3. We can be fairly sure two people were found in a state of distress and collapse on a public bench in Salisbury at the approximate time stated. …
4. We know that neither Skripal has made any public appearance or statement since that time, and that they are currently alleged to be in Salisbury hospital ICU suffering from the effects of a “nerve agent”.
5. We know a local policeman, Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, is also alleged to be in the same hospital having been contaminated by the same “nerve agent”. How he came to be contaminated is still not clear, and two conflicting stories have been promoted. … Given the fact Bailey is allegedly a detective in the CID (Criminal Investigation Department) and not a uniformed officer, the claim he was a first responder on the scene seems to make little sense. … The first story that Bailey became contaminated while investigating the Skripal home seems to fit better with the claim that he is an officer in the CID. …
6. We know that almost immediately upon this incident occurring a media campaign of almost unprecedented intensity began to generate what looked like a pre-prepared story that the Skripals had been poisoned by Russia. This claim has been “supported” by untruths and manipulations so questionable even anonymous FCO sources are worried about the wisdom and ethics on display. It has also been used to promote a number of agendas including:a) finally ditching Brexit …
b) closing down RT in the UK
c) moving/postponing the World Cup
d) imposing fresh sanctions on Russia
e) giving Theresa May her “Falklands moment” ….
f) putting pressure on Trump to be more pro-active in condemning Russia.7. We know Russia has completely denied any involvement in the Skripal poisoning. And the lack of obvious motive for them to initiate such an attack has been acknowledged even by members of the UK establishment.
8. We know the UK has refused Russia’s request to give them samples of the alleged “novichok” for analysis. No specific reason for denying the request has yet been given.
9. We know the UK has blocked Russia’s Resolution in the UN calling for a “co-operative international investigation in line with OPCW standards”. Again no specific reason or this obstruction has yet been given. …
the government and media are lying.
In addition the media are trying to work up a jingoistic anti-Russia hysteria that has no parallel in recent times. Not even the 2003 media frenzy to get public opinion behind the illegal war on Iraq reached these heights.
The obvious conclusion from this, if Russia were not a nuclear power, would be that the British state machine is trying to prepare the people for war with Russia. Unless the entire British government has lost its mind … However that something fairly major in terms of escalation in the “New Cold War” is being planned seems a reasonable inference at this point. …
We suggest taking any such future declaration with a great deal of scepticism.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.
As May's UK's scam operation is exposed, it certifies itself as intellectually impotent con with British Minister of Defense Gavin Williamson's (a former fireplace salesman from Stoke) official response at the UN to Russia, "Shut up and go away" in his loudest British accented sniveling whimper.
Seriously. Not satire. Not the Onion. That's UK's official thoughtful response.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.
The gathering blowback from this clumsy FF may very well take down May's governance. can't wait.
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RUSSIA ORDERS BRITISH COUNCIL OFFICE TO CLOSE: FOREIGN MINISTRY
Moscow expels 23 UK diplomats & shuts British Council in response to ‘provocative moves’
https://www.rt.com/news/421568-russi...sador-skripal/
DATES OF CLOSURE OF BRITISH CONSULATE GENERAL IN ST. PETERSBURG TO BE DETERMIED IN ACCORDANCE WITH INT'L LAW, BRITISH SIDE TO BE ALLOWED TIME TO CONCLUDE ITS WORK - SOURCE IN RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY
RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY: BRITISH SIDE HAS BEEN WARNED THAT RUSSIA RESERVES RIGHT TO OTHER RETALIATORY MEASURES IN CASE OF FURTHER UNFRIENDLY STEPS WITH REGARDS TO RUSSIA
Does anybody remember the Sarin attacks in Syria last year, where incredibly brave White Helmets were pictured carrying victims without the necessary protective clothing?
I´ve found the following picture.
See firemen – almost as brave as the White Helmets.
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Putin is loving all the attention to the spy assassination attempt. First, it serves as a warning to any who might think of saying anything against him. Second, it fits his narration that the West is out to get Russia and he is the one needed to protect it. Not that his winning the election is in question- not that hard when you can pick and choose who is allowed or not allowed to run against you as well as controlling the media.
Voting is underway today. The only thing in question is what the level of voter turnout will be.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...232444040.html
After Navalny was barred from the polls, he called on his supporters to boycott the elections and launched a campaign to register and train election observers, claiming that there might be electoral irregularities.On Sunday, Yevgeny Roizman, the mayor of Russia's third largest city, Yekaterinburg, said in a video posted on his Youtube channel that there has been an effort to push up turnout levels for the elections.
"I've never seen anything like that. Everything has been mobilised: schools, kindergartens, hospitals - it is an unprecedented fight for [a higher] turnout," said Roizman, who won the mayorship in 2013 running as an independent.
In the video, he also said that there is a minimum of 60 percent turnout that leaders of Russian regional authorities have to achieve in order to "survive"; those who get above 60 percent are able to advance in their careers.Last year, Putin delayed announcing his intention to run for re-election, raising speculations about whether he has the energy to complete a fourth term.
He only confirmed his re-election bid less than two weeks before the start of the official campaign period on December 18. Abbas Gallyamov, a political analyst, says Putin is "tired" of dealing with domestic politics.
"The challenges he faces, they are hard to deal with. The deteriorating economy - it's just dying and he doesn't know how to [fix] it. All this corruption - he would like it to disappear but it doesn't and he doesn't know what to do about it," said Gallyamov, who used to work as a speech writer for the Putin administration in the 2000s. "It gives him the feeling of weakness and definitely he hates it."
According to him, for that reason, he is trying to create low expectations among his electorate.
"The situation in the country is getting worse and some unpopular reforms are [coming]. He wants to win securely, he wants people to be positive, but he doesn't want them to expect much from him," said Gallyamov.
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
On the following link is a video, where brave firemen without protection stand by looking from a couple of yards away as officers in spacesuits dump goods contaminated with nerve agent “Novichock” in a plastic container: https://www.voanews.com/a/white-hous...a/4295542.html
I’ve found a good critical review of the official story...
Blaming Russia for a poison "of a type developed by Russia" (they should claim Soviet Union...) is like blaming Germany for all Heroin addicts because the Nazi Bayer company developed the mass-production of Heroin.
On March 9, it was said that the poison likely came from inside Skripal's house.The components used to make Novichok are readily available, but their short lifespan and the risks involved in using it demand professional expertise, scientific and arms experts said.
On 13 March, it was smeared on the door handle of Skripal’s car.
On 16 March, it supposedly came out of the suitcase of Skripal's daughter.
All these claims are based on anonymous official sources. Certainly not all of them are true, and possibly none is true.
Besides Skripal and his daughter a police officer was affected. It is unclear where the officer contacted the alleged poison.
More at the link: http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03...-punished.html
It looks like the writer of this "Novichock" script, watched the British-American spy drama Strike Black: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_Back:_Retribution
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belching boris boviates
Russia stockpiling nerve agent for decade, UK Foreign Secretary claims
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/ru...ms-833119.html
(stockpiling for 'decades'. right. and they 'waited' till now. to complain. right.)
State-funded BBC lets Boris Johnson claim of Russia “stockpiling novichok” go unchallenged while UK govt’s Skripal “drama” continues to defy sense & reason
https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/18/...se-and-reason/
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"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.
UK Spy Agencies Warn Power Companies To Brace For CripplingRussianGCHQ Cyberattack
Chilling theory in Russian spy probe involving Sergei Skripal, his daughter Yulia and her suitcase
Police investigating the attack on former Russian spy and his daughter who are fighting for their lives, have reportedly come up with
a new theory about how they became infected with a military-grade toxin.
Investigators believe the nerve agent that poisoned former Russian agent Sergei Skripal was
planted in his daughter’s suitcase before she left Moscow, The Telegraph newspaper reported, citing unidentified sources.
Yulia Skripal flew to London from Russia on March 3, according to counter-terrorism police.
British investigators are working on the theory that the toxin was impregnated in an item of clothing or cosmetics or in a gift
that was opened in Skripal’s house in Salisbury, the Telegraph said, citing the unidentified sources.
“They are working on the theory that the toxin was impregnated in an item of clothing or cosmetics or else in a gift that was opened in his house in Salisbury, meaning Miss Skripal was deliberately targeted to get at her father,” the newspaper said.
Russia’s ambassador to Canberra has insisted the Kremlin had no motivation to kill a former spy in the UK and suggested Britain might be involved. Grigory Logvinov believes a full investigation into the attempted assassination is needed before blame can be attributed.
“I’m afraid Russia would be the last country to have any motive,” Mr Logvinov told the ABC on Friday.
“But the other countries, they have much stronger motives, including Great Britain.”
Britain and its western allies are blaming Russia, but Mr Logvinov questioned what possible motive Moscow could have.
“This guy, he was arrested, he was sentenced, he served his term, he was pardoned and expelled from the country,” Mr Loginov said.
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/...5dd11897224cbf
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John Pilger
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.
They said why they would want to and practically admitted it. Traitors must pay.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tle-in-england
Russian state TV warns 'traitors' not to settle in England
Russian state television has warned “traitors” and Kremlin critics that they should not settle in England because of an increased risk of dying in mysterious circumstances.
“Don’t choose England as a place to live. Whatever the reasons, whether you’re a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don’t move to England,” the presenter Kirill Kleymenov said during a news programme on Channel One, state TV’s flagship station.
“Something is not right there. Maybe it’s the climate. But in recent years there have been too many strange incidents with a grave outcome. People get hanged, poisoned, they die in helicopter crashes and fall out of windows in industrial quantities,” Kleymenov said.
The stark warning comes as the former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, remain critically ill in hospital after being poisoned with a nerve agent in Salisbury. Moscow has labelled speculation that they were targeted by the Kremlin security services as an “anti-Russian campaign”.
A number of Kremlin critics have met grisly ends in Britain in recent years. Boris Berezovsky, an oligarch turned government critic, was found hanged at his home in Berkshire in March 2013. The coroner delivered an open verdict. Alexander Litvinenko, a former FSB security service officer, died in 2006 after being poisoned with polonium-210 in the lobby of a Mayfair hotel, allegedly by Russian hitmen. Vladimir Putin dismissed accusations of Russian involvement.
In 2012, Alexander Perepilichnyy, a former banker who was helping Swiss prosecutors investigate a Russian-linked money-laundering scheme, died after collapsing in Surrey. A pre-inquest hearing heard that traces of a chemical that can be found in the poisonous plant gelsemium were later found in his stomach. The inquest is due to resume next month.
Stephen Curtis, a millionaire lawyer with close ties to the exiled Russian tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky, died when his helicopter crashed close to Bournemouth airport in 2004. Curtis is reported to have told a close relative that if he were to die, it would not be an accident. One of Curtis’s associates, Scot Young, who had business links to Berezovsky, was found impaled on railings after falling from his apartment in Marylebone, central London, in 2014. The coroner found insufficient evidence to rule it a suicide, and his family suspect he was murdered
The second half you quote was the reason this was in Australia news source. It is just the Aussie ambassador opinion.
More important point from the post is :
"Police investigating the attack on former Russian spy and his daughter who are fighting for their lives, have reportedly come up with
a new theory about how they became infected with a military-grade toxin.
Investigators believe the nerve agent that poisoned former Russian agent Sergei Skripal was
planted in his daughter’s suitcase before she left Moscow, The Telegraph newspaper reported, citing unidentified sources.
Yulia Skripal flew to London from Russia on March 3, according to counter-terrorism police.
British investigators are working on the theory that the toxin was impregnated in an item of clothing or cosmetics or in a gift
that was opened in Skripal’s house in Salisbury, the Telegraph said, citing the unidentified sources.
“They are working on the theory that the toxin was impregnated in an item of clothing or cosmetics or else in a gift that was opened in his house in Salisbury, meaning Miss Skripal was deliberately targeted to get at her father,” the newspaper said.
The threat quoted in my post comes from a spokesperson on Russian run TV- not an Australian commentator.
“Don’t choose England as a place to live. Whatever the reasons, whether you’re a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don’t move to England,” the presenter Kirill Kleymenov said during a news programme on Channel One, state TV’s flagship station.
“Something is not right there. Maybe it’s the climate. But in recent years there have been too many strange incidents with a grave outcome. People get hanged, poisoned, they die in helicopter crashes and fall out of windows in industrial quantities,” Kleymenov said.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-18-2018 at 08:02 PM.
“Don’t choose England as a place to live."
ha. too late.
There was a stampede of 'Russians' flooding UK with their 'booty' after looting Yeltsin's garage sale.
Oligarchs, mafia criminals and traitors. Now they're stuck working with Clinton crime ring or 'expendable' by competing thugs.
They get hanged, poisoned, die in helicopter crashes and fall out of windows.
They're now a 'useful' commodity to terminate & run Russia!Russia!Russia! programs by the intelligence communities.
Their 'wealth' is now up for grabs via US sanctions and they can't repatriate their plunder back to Russia either.
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
Last edited by goldenequity; 03-18-2018 at 08:11 PM.
Because Russia never disappeared a spy rather than expatriate him.
Russian Double Agent Reportedly Poisoned Through BMW Air Vents As 38 Others Sickened
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...thers-sickened
ah-HAAA!
SO.... it was the Germans who did it!!! I believe Angela HERSELF gave the order. I KNEW it!!
They (?) is who, exactly.
They said why they would want to and practically admitted it. Traitors must pay.
Sorry you got lost in the real focus of my post from the Australian press - you are beyond hope Zips and really not worth the time.
Again - the point of the new information from the Aussies is that the wife was in Moscow and flew to London on March 3.
The idea that the military-grade nerve agent was deployed / planted in Moscow and unwittingly carried to Britain is very plausible,
as first presented with the information available to me - by the Australian press.
Vladimir Putin: 'nonsense' to think Russia would poison spy in UK
Putin, who has won a new presidential term, says Russia does not possess the military nerve agent allegedly used against Sergei and Yulia Skripal
Putin, in his first detailed comments on the poisoning, said Russia had been falsely accused.
“As for the tragedy that you mentioned, I found out about it from the media. The first thing that entered my head was that if it had been a military-grade nerve agent, the people would have died on the spot,” said Putin.
“Secondly, Russia does not have such [nerve] agents. We destroyed all our chemical weapons under the supervision of international organisations and we did it first, unlike some of our partners who promised to do it, but unfortunately did not keep their promises.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ison-spy-in-uk
Last edited by Jan2017; 03-19-2018 at 06:11 AM.
now the fun begins...
Dear Theresa, Pack yer bags.
A possible motive for accusing Russia in a completely ridiculous way, was supporting Vladimir Putin, who reportedly has been elected in a landslide victory.
Most Russians will take Western media criticising Putin's election as "undemocratic" not very seriously at this moment...
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