Should I vote?

[HazlittIsLit]

I've always been excited to begin voting for the Libertarian Party, expressing my dissent with the two major-parties. But as my principles are developing and coming together, I worry that voting will express that I do actually consent to being governed, which I don't. This government does not have my consent. I feel like I can't say this whilst actively partaking in the electoral process, which elects people into positions of authority over others.

What do you think?

[Stratovarious]

It depends on how hard you are willing to vote.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I worry that voting will express that I do actually consent to being governed, which I don't.

If you don't consent, then would you say that the so-called "social contract" is null & void for you? After all, a contract requires consent of all parties for it to be in force.

[dannno]

It doesn't matter if you consent or not, the state is still going to rape you.

I see nothing wrong with self-defense voting. Vote for people who want to take away the power from government.

[oyarde]

I've always been excited to begin voting for the Libertarian Party, expressing my dissent with the two major-parties. But as my principles are developing and coming together, I worry that voting will express that I do actually consent to being governed, which I don't. This government does not have my consent. I feel like I can't say this whilst actively partaking in the electoral process, which elects people into positions of authority over others.

What do you think?

What do I think ? I have voted for a lot of Libertarians . I think it is time to quit doing that all together . I think they also do not care if they have your consent . To summarize it is probably in your best interest to vote for whoever you think will steal the least from you that actually has a chance to win or buy Oyarde a beer .

[Suzanimal]

I rarely vote for politicians. I believe in voting for someone and there aren't many politicians out there I actually like so I usually skip over those parts. I DO keep my eye on the referendums, though. Even if you chose not to vote for your master, I do think it's important to go to the polls.

I would be interested to hear @TheTexan opinion.

[Danke]

I rarely vote for politicians. I believe in voting for someone and there aren't many politicians out there I actually like so I usually skip over those parts. I DO keep my eye on the referendums, though. Even if you chose not to vote for your master, I do think it's important to go to the polls.

I would be interested to hear @TheTexan opinion.

Really? He is a patriotic AMERICAN. You should know that by now having been here since 2012.

[Swordsmyth]

I've always been excited to begin voting for the Libertarian Party, expressing my dissent with the two major-parties. But as my principles are developing and coming together, I worry that voting will express that I do actually consent to being governed, which I don't. This government does not have my consent. I feel like I can't say this whilst actively partaking in the electoral process, which elects people into positions of authority over others.

What do you think?

YOU?

You should not vote.

[Stratovarious]

YOU?

You should not vote.

[Swordsmyth]

[Stratovarious]

I smelt' a rat too, hence the 1st snarky comment .......

: )

[Stratovarious]

27 more posts = 4000 , yoo hoo........!!!!

[Swordsmyth]

I smelt' a rat too, hence the 1st snarky comment .......

: )

Yeah, this guy's posting history indicates he is a saboteur.

[Stratovarious]

Yeah, this guy's posting history indicates he is a saboteur.

I looked at the Red Dot's and the 'born on date' , you know more about him than I do, but I think
we both figured it out regardless.

Another zippy is born, the angels sing, well a bit off key... : )

[Dr.3D]

Every ballot should have the option, "None of the above." and if that option gets the most votes, that office would be abolished.

[Stratovarious]

Every ballot should have the option, "None of the above." and if that option gets the most votes, that office would be abolished.

Yes, or at least held vacant until such time as an 'electable' candidate surfaces.

[r3volution 3.0]

Should I vote?

No

[heavenlyboy34]

VOTE VERMIN SUPREME LIKE ME AND @Suzanimal AND ALL THE COOL KIDS

[TheTexan]

I rarely vote for politicians. I believe in voting for someone and there aren't many politicians out there I actually like so I usually skip over those parts. I DO keep my eye on the referendums, though. Even if you chose not to vote for your master, I do think it's important to go to the polls.

I would be interested to hear @TheTexan opinion.

Voting is a sacred honor & duty that every American man is born with.

The voting men of this country are the bastion of democracy. We are the ones holding back the tides of chaos and anarchy, which threaten to destroy everything this country stands for. We are the ones upholding honor and justice, protecting the weak from the hordes of marauders who always seek to regain control.

Voting is a gift from God, bestowed and restored to us by our founding fathers, and maintained by the blood and sacrifice of our soldiers and Officers who risk and give their lives to protect this sacred right.

Of course he should vote.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Well, this thread is getting funny now, so I see two questions emerging:


1. Should one vote?
2. Should Hazlit vote?

[TheTexan]

VOTE VERMIN SUPREME LIKE ME AND @Suzanimal AND ALL THE COOL KIDS

Thanks for doing your part to keep this great democracy functioning

[heavenlyboy34]

Thanks for doing your part to keep this great democracy functioning

y/w If Vermin weren't running I would just be writing in imaginary candidates as usual. It gums up the works a bit and entertains me. Plus, it's a de facto non-vote, so no harm done.

[TheTexan]

y/w If Vermin weren't running I would just be writing in imaginary candidates as usual. It gums up the works a bit and entertains me. Plus, it's a de facto non-vote, so no harm done.

Either way it gets added to our nation's voter turnout statistics, which is often used as a measure of the health & legitimacy of an elected government.

So thank you for adding legitimacy to our great government

[Anti Globalist]

VOTE VERMIN SUPREME LIKE ME AND @Suzanimal AND ALL THE COOL KIDS

Count me in as one of the cool kids

[Brian4Liberty]

I've always been excited to begin voting for the Libertarian Party, expressing my dissent with the two major-parties. But as my principles are developing and coming together, I worry that voting will express that I do actually consent to being governed, which I don't. This government does not have my consent. I feel like I can't say this whilst actively partaking in the electoral process, which elects people into positions of authority over others.

What do you think?

No

I’d suggest going to as many left wing websites as possible and advocate for people not to vote.

[HazlittIsLit]

YOU?

You should not vote.

You still pissy because I asked a critical goddamn question about our own philosophy? You're just as childish as the Democrats and Republicans.

[Swordsmyth]

You still pissy because I asked a critical goddamn question about our own philosophy? You're just as childish as the Democrats and Republicans.

I know an enemy troll when I see one.
Your "question" was a baseless smear attempt.

[Firestarter]

My main reason to NOT vote was (some 20 years ago) that politicians don't keep promises.
At that time the bombing of Serbia for geopolitical reasons was the last straw (I haven't voted since): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...oros-amp-Mabel

Since then, I've learned that the Kingdom of the Netherlands, where I survive, is effectively a dictatorship under the ruthless House of Orange-Nassau, with politicians that are no more than spokespersons for these Royal degenerates.
But then again, I don't believe that NOT voting will make our "democracy" a better place...

There have been some attempts to ridicule our so-called democracy, but I find it questionable to vote for politicians, whose aim is to ridicule, while they are running at the same time (which doesn't make sense to me)...

HADJEMAAR, BIAFRA
Some people have entered politrics to ridicule it.
In 1921 the homeless, alcoholic beggar “Hadjememaar” (You’d-like-to-have-me, Nelis de Gelder) and his running mate Bertus Zuurbier were elected for the Rapaille party to the city council of my home city Amsterdam (see the photograph). In a clear disregard for democracy an emergency law was passed by Dutch parliament and they even arrested Hadjememaar shortly before the elections to prevent him from taking his rightful seat. They forced Hadjememaar to resign from the city council: http://listverse.com/2016/01/20/10-r...e-got-elected/


In 1979 the front man for punk band Death Kennedys - Jello Biafra - finished fourth in the election for mayor of San Francisco: http://archives.sfweekly.com/shookdo...f-mayoral-race


RHINO, DOGS, DONKEY, GOAT, FICUS - NOBODY FOR PRESIDENT
Arguably Jello Biafra and Hadjememaar should be taken more seriously than crooked Hillary Clinton or Donald Duck Trump. Even animals (unfortunately no ducks or lizards) have successfully entered politrics.
Back in 2000 when Michael Moore was still making interesting satirical television, 23 ficus plants were running for congress, but the election committee refused to count their votes. The following was part of the campaign http://www.democracynow.org/2000/6/7/ficus_for_congress

Here are some of the non-humans that actually won elections: Pulvapies foot powder (1967, Ecuador); Cacareco the rhinoceros (more than 100,000 votes in 1959 in Brazil); Boston Curtis the mule (1938, Milton, Washington); Billy Gumboot the goat (1999, New Zealand); Tai the poodle (New Zealand); Stubbs the cat (major of Talkeetna, Alaska for 15 years):
http://listverse.com/2013/06/26/10-t...ction-results/
In 1981 the town Sunol, California elected Bosco, the black Labrador and Rottweiler mix, for mayor.


Since the 1960s “Nobody” has entered the presidential election campaigns. Probably the “Nobody” for president campaign of 1976 led by Wavy Gravy and Curtis Sprangler was the most successful: http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/..._for_president

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6325880

[r3volution 3.0]

I’d suggest going to as many left wing websites as possible and advocate for people not to vote.

Why?

You think the Trumpledumpkins are voting better?

No one should vote; but they do, and will, so here we are.

[Brian4Liberty]

Why?

You think the Trumpledumpkins are voting better?

No one should vote; but they do, and will, so here we are.

Why? You prefer that libertarians not vote, but all of the ignorant masses continue?