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    Ron on "Homosexual Agenda"?

    Does anyone have a link to his response to the "homosexual agenda" question last night?

    BTW, all those gay questions were complete hokum. How can people be so unabashedly hateful to an entire group of people based on just one of many characteristics?

    Thanks!



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    homophobia? Fear of that which makes you uncomfortable and you don't understand? I can't remember what he said.

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    I didn't know whether to laugh or cringe. They think gays are public enemy #1, at least most of the neocons put the Muslim bogeyman at #1. No gays have committed terrorism that I know of.
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    You can bet Ron Paul is against ANY agenda that seeks "special" rights for any "special" segment of society.

    Homosexuals are already guaranteed the EXACT SAME rights under the Constitution as the rest of us.

    Or what is left of those rights anyway...
    We have been totally fucked by the machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulaholic View Post
    How can people be so unabashedly hateful to an entire group of people based on just one of many characteristics?
    Ignorance.
    You either believe that within your society more individuals are good than evil, and that by protecting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible, or you believe that within your society more individuals are evil than good, and that by limiting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible.

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    im a Catholic and I am appalled at the people there that night. Where is the peace, wheres is the acceptance?! There was so much hate for gays, we are taught to accept and love all people, even if they spit on you and beat you you are supposed to turn the other cheek. So many condone this war, but why? It sickens me that these are the kind of people representing my faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyphilter View Post
    im a Catholic and I am appalled at the people there that night. Where is the peace, where’s is the acceptance?! There was so much hate for gays, we are taught to accept and love all people, even if they spit on you and beat you you are supposed to turn the other cheek. So many condone this war, but why? It sickens me that these are the kind of people representing my faith.
    I totally agree, I have many Christian friends and NONE of them are like that. They are good people who actually try and live out the creed, Love thy neighbor as thy self. Too bad the judgmental hypocrites are always the loudest ones out there…

    Still the "family values debate" was barely half full. Perhaps it shows that these types have lost credibility with the majority of the faithful.

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    My favorite part was when they brought out the "former homosexual" who turned straight thanks to the Lord.

    wow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadioDJforPaul View Post
    My favorite part was when they brought out the "former homosexual" who turned straight thanks to the Lord.

    wow...
    That was one of a handful of questions that made me laugh out loud.

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    I think these people lost touch with reality and developed an unhealthy obsession with homosexuality a long time ago. I mean seriously, if something bothers you that deeply, how about you stop thinking about it for a while?

    The 2nd dumbest thing uttered was the "What are we going to do about Islam" line. I wasn't watching, I just heard it on audio, so I'm not sure who said it. What a retarded statement! How about "nothing". That's a pretty reasonable answer. As if they have the power to make a religion disappear, or change.
    Home is where my brothers lie. I stop and kneel at Arlington. You can go around if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulaholic View Post
    Does anyone have a link to his response to the "homosexual agenda" question last night?

    BTW, all those gay questions were complete hokum. How can people be so unabashedly hateful to an entire group of people based on just one of many characteristics?

    Thanks!
    http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/

    last one on that page. The answer islike 5 minutes into the piece or so, maybe 10... its in the first half.

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    All that homophobic questioning actually gave the so-called top tiers a legit reason no to show up.

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    There were a few moments when I realized why the other top tiers didn't show...

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    Gay marriage is cool by me*

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    I'm tired of all the disparate agendas. I want an American agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leipo View Post
    All that homophobic questioning actually gave the so-called top tiers a legit reason no to show up.
    That's why the Libertarian Party exists errr supposedly

    Socially Tolerant, Fiscally Responsible



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    Quote Originally Posted by paulaholic View Post
    Does anyone have a link to his response to the "homosexual agenda" question last night?

    BTW, all those gay questions were complete hokum. How can people be so unabashedly hateful to an entire group of people based on just one of many characteristics?

    Thanks!
    I think it's a distraction. Take the plank out of your own eye before your brothers speck in his eye.

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    Noo, you got it all wrong. These are COMPASSIONATE conservatives who want all of them to be cured of teh Gay

    On a serious note, I wanted to laugh at that "cured" homosexual who was asking one of the questions, but I just felt sorry for his wife. He will probably leave her for another man someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyphilter View Post
    im a Catholic and I am appalled at the people there that night. Where is the peace, wheres is the acceptance?! There was so much hate for gays, we are taught to accept and love all people, even if they spit on you and beat you you are supposed to turn the other cheek. So many condone this war, but why? It sickens me that these are the kind of people representing my faith.
    You hate the sin, love the sinner. You don't accept someone because they commit homosexuality, but because they are made in the image and likeness of God. If they spread that agenda on others I see nothing wrong with repealing such ideas in the same degree that they are sent at others.

    They use the government as a means of getting special treatment.
    I've been out of politics for 10 years. Ron Paul brought me back

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    Ron Paul basically said what he's always said: that rights belong to the individual, etc.

    Ron Paul is the only guy on earth who won't be surprising, yet is incredibly exciting.

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    Dr. Paul has a lot of gay and bisexual supporters who like his defense of individual rights. Much of the self-described "homosexual agenda" is socialism through group rights in one color or another.
    My review of the For Liberty documentary:
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    (please Digg and post comments on the HuffPost site)

    "This political train-wreck Republicans face can largely be traced to Bush’s philosophical metamorphosis from a traditional, non-interventionist conservative to the neoconservatives’ exemplar of a 'War President', and his positioning of the Republicans as the 'War Party'."

    Nicholas Sanchez on Bush's legacy, September 30, 2007.

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    Yes, I agree he does support individual rights. But, unfortunately he personally opposes gay marriage. I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who thinks my 22+ monogamous relationship is viewed negatively because I love a man. Personally, loving someone has nothing to do with sex. Love is the primary foundation of humanity and same-sex love is nothing less or greater than different-sex love relationships. It all comes to down to love. Why one would not personally support S-S marriage is beyond me. At least, his personal views do not interfere with my individual rights, and that is a blessing. For this, I can at least, continue my support for Ron Paul.... albeit, with reservations.

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    Yeah, I wish I was there. They need to research some anthropology more. Marriage is NOT universal and is NOT universally man and woman. There are cultures where they don't marry at all and some where marriage is same sex.
    "Anarchists oppose the State because it has its very being in such aggression, namely, the expropriation of private property through taxation, the coercive exclusion of other providers of defense service from its territory, and all of the other depredations and coercions that are built upon these twin foci of invasions of individual rights." -Murray Rothbard

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    Quote Originally Posted by james1906 View Post
    I didn't know whether to laugh or cringe. They think gays are public enemy #1, at least most of the neocons put the Muslim bogeyman at #1. No gays have committed terrorism that I know of.
    if they did, it would be faaaabulous!!

    lol j/k
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    Maybe I need some educating, but where in the Constitution or in Federal Statutes is marriage between a man and a woman recognized as a legal union? I don't believe there are such laws and if that's the case if there are no special rights for married straights, why should there be special rights for married gays?
    If you want less oppressive government, quit trying to expand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GayRPFan View Post
    Yes, I agree he does support individual rights. But, unfortunately he personally opposes gay marriage. I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who thinks my 22+ monogamous relationship is viewed negatively because I love a man. Personally, loving someone has nothing to do with sex. Love is the primary foundation of humanity and same-sex love is nothing less or greater than different-sex love relationships. It all comes to down to love. Why one would not personally support S-S marriage is beyond me. At least, his personal views do not interfere with my individual rights, and that is a blessing. For this, I can at least, continue my support for Ron Paul.... albeit, with reservations.
    He doesn't oppose gay marriage, douche bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephTheLibertarian View Post
    He doesn't oppose gay marriage, douche bag.
    Way to welcome a new member.
    You either believe that within your society more individuals are good than evil, and that by protecting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible, or you believe that within your society more individuals are evil than good, and that by limiting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulitician View Post
    Way to welcome a new member.
    Some people need to get their facts straight

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephTheLibertarian View Post
    Some people need to get their facts straight
    No need for name calling.
    You either believe that within your society more individuals are good than evil, and that by protecting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible, or you believe that within your society more individuals are evil than good, and that by limiting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GayRPFan View Post
    Yes, I agree he does support individual rights. But, unfortunately he personally opposes gay marriage. I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who thinks my 22+ monogamous relationship is viewed negatively because I love a man. Personally, loving someone has nothing to do with sex. Love is the primary foundation of humanity and same-sex love is nothing less or greater than different-sex love relationships. It all comes to down to love. Why one would not personally support S-S marriage is beyond me. At least, his personal views do not interfere with my individual rights, and that is a blessing. For this, I can at least, continue my support for Ron Paul.... albeit, with reservations.
    He has said more than once that he belives it should not be a government issue at all, and at the very least, it should be a states rights issue. Here is a piece where he actually says he thinks homosexuality is alot more complicated than just being a "sin". Hes actually quite sympathetic, at least as sympathetic as smeone who doesnt pander can be. Heres where he talks about it to a very religious talk show host:

    Is homosexuality a sin? Paul says he’s “not as judgmental about that probably because of my medical background. I don’t see it in [such] simplistic terms. I think it’s a complex issue to think it’s a sin or other problems with the way people are born. It’s too complex to give an answer as simple as that [that homosexuality is a sin.]”

    Does he believe God says homosexuality is a sin? “Well, I believe a lot of people understand it that way but I think everybody is God’s child, too, so, you know, I have trouble with that.” I point out that, Biblically-speaking, all human beings are made in God’s image but not all are God’s children; some people are children of the devil. For example, in John 8:44ff, Jesus tells some folks they believe He is not God because their father is the devil.
    Second, he also says in a Q&A section of a speech (i think its the kansas city rally speech, but i have to fin where in the speech - ill find it and show it to you) he says he belives individuals should have a right to sign wahtever sort of contract they want, and it should be either recognized by government, or governmet should for the most part stay of of marriage altogether, that way you can call it whatever you want and have the same priveleges as straight married couples. He isn't opposed to homosexuality, though he certainly does not see it as necessarily moral or good, he doesnt see it as a sin either like many christians do (though most that i know of are sympathetic/amiable, not judgemental, to homosexuals).

    So basically you are wrong in your reasoning/thinking, and misunderstand his position. His position on ABORTION is very distinct - he is personally opposed to it and believes it is murder, but would leave it up to the states to deal with. He says no such thing about homosexuality being "wrong" anywhere, but does say it should be an issue at the state level with marriage licenses, etc, or not even a government issue at all.

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