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  1. #151
    Our public schools don't teach kids about:

    1) Private property.
    2) Honest currency.
    3) The Constitution. Especially the Bill of Rights.
    Last edited by revgen; 11-22-2019 at 06:47 PM.



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  3. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by revgen View Post
    Out public schools don't teach kids about:

    1) Private property.
    2) Honest currency.
    3) The Constitution. Especially the Bill of Rights.
    I love how parents don't take responsibility.



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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    How many of those illegal aliens invading our borders did you say earned more than $35,000 in their 3rd world socialist utopias?



    Zero, nada, nein, nyet, that's right , NONE.


    how are they socialist?

  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    No need to ignore the reality either. Should we ignore the fact that immigrants are much more likely to be liberal than conservative or libertarian?
    why would they be? don't they know capitalism is best for uplifting them from poverty?

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    how are they socialist?
    Most of them collect welfare , how does that make them capitalists?

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Most of them collect welfare , how does that make them capitalists?
    in what definition of socialism does collecting welfare make it so?

  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    in what definition of socialism does collecting welfare make it so?
    None really, lets go with useless, blood sucking, leaching slugs.

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    no need to blame immigrants, half of Americans make less than $35,000. being poor is pretty normal now.
    There are several problems with your statement. Being poor has always been pretty normal. In modern America it is not the poor who support socialism, but the middle class and rich. Immigrants whether poor or not prefer socialism because they come from cultures with different values, so that makes the situation worse.

  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    but the middle class and rich.
    proof?

  12. #160
    Socialism is about making society fairer, that is the theory. It is about not allowing the wealthy to escape with a serious amount of money. They may seem alike, as power can corrupt, and does the money really go to the people it needs to.



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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    I love how parents don't take responsibility.
    Don't take responsibility? Stick that straight up your ass. The only possible way they could would be to homeschool. The social engineers have made that pretty tough. Thankfully many are doing it anyway.
    "The Patriarch"

  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Don't take responsibility? Stick that straight up your ass. The only possible way they could would be to homeschool. The social engineers have made that pretty tough. Thankfully many are doing it anyway.
    tough how? what law is making it hard?

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    tough how? what law is making it hard?
    Ughhhh, hur- der....what law....????

    I remember you, nice try.

    What do homeschoolers have to provide to the state to "prove" they aren't abusing their own children?

    Why is it harder now to raise a family with a single provider?

    What happens when a agent of the state decides you aren't raising your children properly?


    A better question would be what law isn't making it hard. But you already knew that.
    "The Patriarch"

  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    The inevitability of democracy bringing about socialism is why it's clear that bringing about socialism was either the intended result of ratifying the US Constitution, or else proof of inexcusable naiveté on the part of those who did.
    +rep Though "Socialism" didn't exist as a coherent, thought out political philosophy that we know it today back in 1780-90, (it's a 19th century thing) there were some weird "proto-socialist" political philosophers/influential rabble-rousers back then that Jefferson, et al were aware of.
    Last edited by heavenlyboy34; 11-23-2019 at 09:01 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

  18. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    +rep
    For utter nonsense?

    I have a better one:

    The inevitability of anarchy bringing about tyranny is why it's clear that bringing about tyranny is either the intended result of advocating for it, or else proof of inexcusable naiveté on the part of those who do.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Ughhhh, hur- der....what law....????

    I remember you, nice try.

    What do homeschoolers have to provide to the state to "prove" they aren't abusing their own children?
    Nothing.

    Why is it harder now to raise a family with a single provider?
    Its not, unless you're an idiot who is bad with money

    What happens when a agent of the state decides you aren't raising your children properly?
    you tell them to $#@! off, or Ben Shapiro said he'll pick up a gun.

    A better question would be what law isn't making it hard. But you already knew that.
    nope. the law is the only thing that matters. everything else is your own fault.

  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    Nothing.
    Which state are you talking about?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  21. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    A little too much navel gazing for my taste...no need to make this difficult.

    A - Free $#@! is popular, especially to a nation of retards.

    B - Freedom is NOT popular, for the same reason.

    C - Socialism is popular to the millions and millions of migrant invaders fleeing socialist failures to the south.
    1) Socialism = Government cares for all your $#@! and interferes with people.
    2) Libertarianism = Take care of your our $#@! and interfere with no one.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    For utter nonsense?

    I have a better one:

    The inevitability of anarchy bringing about tyranny is why it's clear that bringing about tyranny is either the intended result of advocating for it, or else proof of inexcusable naiveté on the part of those who do
    .
    None of that is actually true. It's actually very old, well worn ground. We've known for quite a long time now that it is fact that minarchies inevitably become epic tyrannies. Here's a whole book about it:
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Which state are you talking about?
    all 50.

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    all 50.
    They're all the same?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  26. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by revgen View Post
    Our public schools don't teach kids about:

    1) Private property.
    2) Honest currency.
    3) The Constitution. Especially the Bill of Rights.
    Good order. +Rep
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  27. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    None of that is actually true. It's actually very old, well worn ground. We've known for quite a long time now that it is fact that minarchies inevitably become epic tyrannies. Here's a whole book about it:
    All societies tend toward tyranny, it's human nature.
    But minarchy does the best job of resisting and giving the people a chance to turn things around from time to time.
    Anarchy is swiftly replaced by tyranny.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  28. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    They're all the same?
    they all lack laws that force you to prove you're not abusing your children

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  32. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    posting a bunch of conservative sites proves nothing.
    It proves you're full of $#@!.
    "The Patriarch"

  33. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    It proves you're full of $#@!.
    nope.

  34. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    nope.
    Yep.
    "The Patriarch"

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    why would they be? don't they know capitalism is best for uplifting them from poverty?
    Look at how they vote. Your little utopia of let them read Mises, Friedman etc they will be free market capitalist and Baltimore will be a paradise HAHAHAHA this is why I couldn't take LP members seriously and stopped working their campaigns

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