Originally Posted by
kcchiefs6465
1) Israel isn't our best ally. The benefits that the American people might theoretically gain from the relationship is negated by the fact that we are more likely to be attacked, and have been attacked, for going down this road of entangling alliances. The United States supplies Israel with weaponry that often violates conventions, said weaponry is used on Palestinians, (whether you believe justifiably so or not is a moot point) various factions in the Middle East and elsewhere point to the mangled corpses of innocent men, women, and children and sell a tale about a so-called American war on Islam. Statements made by prominent neoconservative talking heads only serves to reinforce that perception. Many are recruited, radicalized, and convinced that a life of war against the United States, and anyone happening to be from there, is moral, righteous, and their duty. These aren't soldiers who are largely paid to fight. They will keep using guerrilla tactics and attacking Americans at every opportunity. We shouldn't be there.
Not simply that, Israel would have an incentive to work towards peaceful relationships with its neighbors if the United States was not artificially propping them up.
2) Israel has attacked us before. The people of Israel are not 'our' enemy, but the government of Israel certainly doesn't much have any qualms about committing acts of war against the United States. Israel bombs hospitals, schools, their forces shoot down innocent children, their munitions (often supplied by the United States) cause excruciating and slow deaths of many innocent people. It is not in the individuals of the United States interest to sponsor these things. Sure, a few Americans prosper greatly. A few receive oil drilling contracts, military welfare, and various other self-enriching, crony-capitalist plots and schemes are realized.
3) It's not simply the politicians who have become utterly subservient to the will of AIPAC, it is the American people who have been taught many of the things you say. "They are our best ally in the Middle East" etc. (they aren't, and regardless, we shouldn't be there). Many's interpretation of the Bible and fanatical aspirations to promote an apocalypse signifying the Second Coming of Christ is to blame as well. They equate Israel, the modern day state, to Israel that is mentioned in the Bible. It's quite amazing that the only bills and/or resolutions that can pass with unanimous consent are the bills to give Israel more money, or reconfirm the undying, eternal, entangling relationship (or other pointless theatrics for politicians to point to on how much they supported Israel when they travel home). It's sickening.
4) Many in Israel actively call for the aid. Many in America actively offer it. Regardless of all that, yes, they should deny it. And yes, America should not be offering it. What do they want? Sovereignty? Or to be an American puppet state? As the relationship stands, considering how much our policy is dictated by Israel, and not vice versa, I'd say "we" are the puppets.
In short, I just deny, in full, that there is any benefit to be had by our alliance with Israel. We should trade with all nations. Not be tied to the hip with them. We are broke and can't afford it, it leads to us being attacked and gets us into wars, and it promotes death and hostility.
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