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Thread: Will 'Extreme Security' Solve The School Shooting Problem? - Ron Paul Liberty Report

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    Immediately before he became the CEO of SIBA, he was Director of Business Development in Homeland Security Programs at Raytheon. At the defense contractor, he was responsible for initiating and supporting pursuits in the homeland and public safety markets, and leading collaborative efforts across businesses to bring distinctive products and services to civilian mission sets. He also represented Raytheon as a a thought leader, writing white papers and speaking at both U.S. and international events. He also worked to evaluate third-party technologies for investment purposes.
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    No, there is the mad obsession here that weapons are necessary, when really just aren't needed. You take your freedom to the extreme.

    A nuclear weapon won't be used, simply because that would be the destruction of the economies.

    If American society didn't have weapons, the shootings would not of occurred.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    No, there is the mad obsession here that weapons are necessary, when really just aren't needed. You take your freedom to the extreme.

    A nuclear weapon won't be used, simply because that would be the destruction of the economies.

    If American society didn't have weapons, the shootings would not of occurred.
    The murders would have taken place some other way.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    No, there is the mad obsession here that weapons are necessary, when really just aren't needed. You take your freedom to the extreme.
    'Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.'--Barry Goldwater

    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    A nuclear weapon won't be used, simply because that would be the destruction of the economies.
    If your government believed that, why did they develop their very own, instead of using that money to increase your dole?

    Why am I asking you questions? You never answer them. We're polite enough to answer quite a few of your questions, but you don't seem to be polite enough to return the favor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    If American society didn't have weapons, the shootings would not of occurred.
    No, the stabbings would not have occurred. And if we didn't have knives, stranglings would still have occurred, but we'd not be able to slice our bread.

    You don't want us to have sandwiches? Damn it, we're hard working, productive people. We deserve sandwiches! Why are you trying to take our sandwiches away?

    I bet you aren't giving up your own sandwiches...
    Last edited by acptulsa; 02-26-2018 at 02:30 PM.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Honestly, you aren't making much sense, you try and pick holes with everything, oh the knives aren't the problem it is the person, so the gun gets to be kept in your society. People like yourself don't need a weapon or your neighbor. Only the Military, not even the police need a gun, may be an Armed response unit.

    Weapons have been necessary at times during conflict, but to own as a citizen just isn't necessary. A government is suppose to defend a territory, that is the point, not the only role, but one of them. The white house was destroyed over two centuries just gone by, and no resident defended the capital from another country.

    The guns are of the past, and meant something there and then, today the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to the modern weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    The guns are of the past, and meant something there and then, today the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to the modern weapons.
    Have you seen what our government did to Iraq and Libya? Have you seen what they're doing to Afghanistan and Syria?

    Do you know why they're not doing the same to us? Well we do know why. So bugger off already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Stop with paranoia. Our national and business interests are under threat, like all throughout history. One people gets to be the boss over another.

    Owning a weapon in society is unnecessary. Like I stated, the 2nd Amendment didn't do anything to defend America over two centuries ago. The argument is rubbish.

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    That's what Stalin said.

    Then he killed twenty million. Or more.

    Just because I'm paranoid does not mean those people in charge aren't psychotic.

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    Last edited by acptulsa; 02-26-2018 at 06:38 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Stop with paranoia. Our national and business interests are under threat, like all throughout history. One people gets to be the boss over another.

    Owning a weapon in society is unnecessary. Like I stated, the 2nd Amendment didn't do anything to defend America over two centuries ago. The argument is rubbish.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Pointless view points, just to justify the ownership of weapons for people's amusement, and yee ha attitude.



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    Child-like faith is child-like. In the ability to eliminate what already exists--hundreds of millions of guns. In the trustworthiness of government. In the media's perception of what our biggest problems are (compare the number of innocents killed by civilians to the number of innocents killed by soldiers--or by mere cops).

    And then there's your distinct lack of faith in one's fellow man. I'm here to tell you 99 44/100ths of armed Oklahomans would never harm you, and would rush into harm's way to protect you.

    Our only "problem" is we have a realistic view of the odds, and we know who our friends are.

    Yee ha that, arrogant child.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 02-27-2018 at 09:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Pointless view points, just to justify the ownership of weapons for people's amusement, and yee ha attitude.
    A principal source of errors and injustice are false ideas of utility. For example: that legislator has false ideas of utility who considers particular more than general conveniences, who had rather command the sentiments of mankind than excite them, who dares say to reason, "Be thou a slave;" who would sacrifice a thousand real advantages to the fear of an imaginary or trifling inconvenience; who would deprive men of the use of fire for fear of their being burnt, and of water for fear of their being drowned; and who knows of no means of preventing evil but by destroying it.
    The laws of this nature are those which forbid to wear arms, disarming those only who are not disposed to commit the crime which the laws mean to prevent. Can it be supposed, that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, and the most important of the code, will respect the less considerable and arbitrary injunctions, the violation of which is so easy, and of so little comparative importance? Does not the execution of this law deprive the subject of that personal liberty, so dear to mankind and to the wise legislator? and does it not subject the innocent to all the disagreeable circumstances that should only fall on the guilty? It certainly makes the situation of the assaulted worse, and of the assailants better, and rather encourages than prevents murder, as it requires less courage to attack unarmed than armed persons.

    Cesare Beccaria

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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