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    Sky Patrol USA [Drones to catch cattle rustlers in ND]

    Sky Patrol USA

    Congratulations, Americans! You are now officially living in a police state patrolled by machines in the skies:

    Armed with a search warrant, Nelson County Sheriff Kelly Janke went looking for six missing cows on the Brossart family farm on June 23. Three men brandishing rifles chased him off, he said. Janke knew the gunmen could be anywhere on the 3,000-acre spread in eastern North Dakota. Fearful of an armed standoff, he called in reinforcements from the Highway Patrol, a regional SWAT team, a bomb squad, ambulances and deputy sheriffs from three counties. He also called in a Predator B drone.

    As the unmanned aircraft circled 2 miles overhead, its sensors helped pinpoint the suspects, showing they were unarmed. Police rushed in and made the first known arrests of U.S. citizens with help from a Predator, the spy drone that has helped revolutionize modern warfare.

    That was just the start. Police say they have used two unarmed Predators based at Grand Forks Air Force Base to fly at least two dozen surveillance flights since then. The FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration have used Predators for other domestic investigations, officials said...
    I have little doubt that 99 percent of all Americans who hear about this will dismiss it as any serious cause for concern "because at least the drones aren't armed". The interesting question is what will come first, the first use of an armed drone to kill American citizens inside the US, or the first shooting-down of a military drone by American citizens...
    My guess is the former.
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    How high do these things fly? If I see one flying over my house it's game on.
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    They can fly quite high...this one said 2 miles in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by roho76 View Post
    How high do these things fly? If I see one flying over my house it's game on.

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    I have little doubt that 99 percent of all Americans who hear about this will dismiss it as any serious cause for concern "because at least the drones aren't armed"
    No. They won't give a damn about whether the drones are armed or not.

    They'll dismiss it because "if you're not a cattle-rustler you have nothing to worry about - and I'm not a cattle-rustler."

    It'll be a classic case of Martin Niemoller syndrome.
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    People still rustle cattle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    People still rustle cattle?
    That's the story and they're stickin' to it.

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    Yay, technology.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    People still rustle cattle?
    Quote Originally Posted by specialK View Post
    That's the story and they're stickin' to it.
    Will Grigg's on it.

    The Predator State Has Domestic 'Extremists' in the Crosshairs
    The Predator-aided SWAT assault in June targeted the family of a local farmer named Rodney Brossart, who live near the tiny village of Lakota, about 100 miles northwest of Fargo. A few days earlier, about a half-dozen stray cattle wandered onto Brossart’s property. The farmer reportedly believed that the cattle were unclaimed and thus belonged to him under a disputed interpretation of open-range law.

    On June 23, after Brossart he refused to surrender the livestock, a team of Sheriff’s deputies Tasered him and took him into custody. They also arrested his Brossart’s when she attempted to defend her father, and his wife when she supposedly “misled” deputies who were searching for what were described as “illegal” weapons.

    When deputies returned the following day, they were reportedly confronted by Brossart’s three sons, who were allegedly carrying rifles. This led Sheriff Janke to escalate the confrontation to a full-spectrum military response — including the local SWAT team and a Predator B drone supplied by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Agency (CBP), an affiliate of the Department of Homeland Security.

    The CBP’s drone fleet, significantly, is described as a counter-terrorism asset. According to the so-called Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a self-appointed leftist watchdog group, Brossart’s family received special attention because Sheriff Janke “knew the Brossarts were followers of another Lakota resident, Roger Elvick, one of the original gurus of the bizarre but remarkably resilient sovereign citizens movement.”

    For the past several years, the SPLC has been indoctrinating local law enforcement agencies in the belief that the sovereign citizens movement — and the “radical Right” in general, a label the SPLC applies to anyone more conservative than Hugo Chavez — has emerged as a fearsome “domestic terrorism” threat. That campaign has been assisted by the State and Local Anti-Terrorism Training (SLATT) program, which is funded through the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Assistance. National and regional law enforcement seminars have been used to cultivate alarm among police officers regarding the supposedly all-encompassing terrorist threat posed by domestic “extremists.”

    The Predator-aided strike on the Brossart family might be a direct payoff of the SLPC’s indoctrination efforts.
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    --Albert J. Nock

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    See Something, Say Something.

    And another family destroyed and hauled off as political prisoners.

    Silly Mundanes, thinking they had any rights.


    The Predator-aided SWAT assault in June targeted the family of a local farmer named Rodney Brossart, who live near the tiny village of Lakota, about 100 miles northwest of Fargo. A few days earlier, about a half-dozen stray cattle wandered onto Brossart’s property. The farmer reportedly believed that the cattle were unclaimed and thus belonged to him under a disputed interpretation of open-range law.

    On June 23, after Brossart he refused to surrender the livestock, a team of Sheriff’s deputies Tasered him and took him into custody. They also arrested his Brossart’s when she attempted to defend her father, and his wife when she supposedly “misled” deputies who were searching for what were described as “illegal” weapons.

    When deputies returned the following day, they were reportedly confronted by Brossart’s three sons, who were allegedly carrying rifles. This led Sheriff Janke to escalate the confrontation to a full-spectrum military response — including the local SWAT team and a Predator B drone supplied by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Agency (CBP), an affiliate of the Department of Homeland Security.

    The CBP’s drone fleet, significantly, is described as a counter-terrorism asset. According to the so-called Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a self-appointed leftist watchdog group, Brossart’s family received special attention because Sheriff Janke “knew the Brossarts were followers of another Lakota resident, Roger Elvick, one of the original gurus of the bizarre but remarkably resilient sovereign citizens movement.”

    For the past several years, the SPLC has been indoctrinating local law enforcement agencies in the belief that the sovereign citizens movement — and the “radical Right” in general, a label the SPLC applies to anyone more conservative than Hugo Chavez — has emerged as a fearsome “domestic terrorism” threat. That campaign has been assisted by the State and Local Anti-Terrorism Training (SLATT) program, which is funded through the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Assistance. National and regional law enforcement seminars have been used to cultivate alarm among police officers regarding the supposedly all-encompassing terrorist threat posed by domestic “extremists.”

    The Predator-aided strike on the Brossart family might be a direct payoff of the SLPC’s indoctrination efforts.

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    Flying drones is boring. Trust me, it really is.
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    North Dakota is the last place I would have thought to see domestic drones unveiled...but then, the elites have shown no shortage of sinister creativity when dreaming of how best to roll out these new police state technologies.
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    So if there were some sort of real terrorist threat instead of cattle theft, would there just be a straight up nuclear bomb dropped on the farm? Swat team, bomb squads, and drones for a cattle theft???? Jeez

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    Quote Originally Posted by roho76 View Post
    How high do these things fly? If I see one flying over my house it's game on.
    Higher than you can shoot.
    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    god damn vipers, all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneEnochs View Post
    Higher than you can shoot.
    People aren't limited to large caliber rifles.
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