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  1. #121
    Well, damn it people, don't just vent here. Get your language right and find an excuse to stuff it in somewhere on every forum you have an account at. I just put it up at Slate.com in a section calling Obama a "New Democrat". My angle was, 'This is Democracy?!'

    Spread it far and wide! Make it viral!
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...



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  3. #122
    I forwarded the Alex Jones link to World Net Daily and highlighted the section going after Ron Paul supporters and anti abortionists.

    They are VERY pro life over there and I wouldn't be surprised if they run a story. Not the best website in the world, but at least it is exposure (if they run it)

  4. #123
    I posted it around facebook. I hope somebody else picks the story up. A lot of my facebook friends won't click on an infowars link.
    End The Nanny State!

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Well, damn it people, don't just vent here. Get your language right and find an excuse to stuff it in somewhere on every forum you have an account at. I just put it up at Slate.com in a section calling Obama a "New Democrat". My angle was, 'This is Democracy?!'

    Spread it far and wide! Make it viral!
    Nope, this Patriot Acts I & II. You're just really gonna LOVE, Act III.
    Last edited by Truth Warrior; 03-12-2009 at 09:30 AM.

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorfsmith View Post
    I posted it around facebook. I hope somebody else picks the story up. A lot of my facebook friends won't click on an infowars link.
    Yeah. I have an advantage, as I can say that I have personally dialed that number and spoken to this specific lieutenant. Well, we can put the digg link up and hope they get more interested in the memo than in the source...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  7. #126
    And if anyone gives you any grief at all, ask them this:

    Do you honestly believe that profiling people based on their candidate bumper stickers is good for a free republic?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And if anyone gives you any grief at all, ask them this:

    Do you honestly believe that profiling people based on their candidate bumper stickers is good for a free republic?
    Write your "representatives".

  9. #128
    did anyone bother to record his/her phone call with the police
    incase they deny this at any point?



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  11. #129
    i admit i didnt call im afraid to be added to a list
    but if youre calling anyways please record
    thanks

  12. #130

    You are already on the list

    Quote Originally Posted by Dripping Rain View Post
    i admit i didnt call im afraid to be added to a list
    but if youre calling anyways please record
    thanks
    Make no mistake, you post, you are profiled and you are on the list. You should be proud to make the list of Patriots instead of lemmings.

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Dripping Rain View Post
    did anyone bother to record his/her phone call with the police
    incase they deny this at any point?
    No. Thought about it, but had no way to do it. Besides, I believe this is subject to both the laws of your state and the laws of Missouri. I didn't want to silence the man I reached by warning him that I was recording the call, and didn't want to risk recording it without disclosure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    I don't think we have any militias in Louisiana.
    We play 'airsoft' games... would that be considered 'militia training'?
    I love it. Nice comeback in case anyone gets grief over this. 'Are they going to raid every paintball club in the nation?'
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    No. Thought about it, but had no way to do it. Besides, I believe this is subject to both the laws of your state and the laws of Missouri. I didn't want to silence the man I reached by warning him that I was recording the call, and didn't want to risk recording it without disclosure.
    this requires 2 people
    one to record without asking
    the other to record if granted permission
    its good you didnt think of it before confirming
    now I think it wont matter since its already been cpnfirmed
    the first recording would do good to be released if they deny it

  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Dripping Rain View Post
    i admit i didnt call im afraid to be added to a list
    but if youre calling anyways please record
    thanks
    Seriously. Where are all of the shills out there? Why aren't you calling this number to help us verify since you're so sure the government isn't really out to get us? There couldn't possibly be a "list" right? I mean, what are they going to do, throw us in FEMA camps? HAH! Preposterous.. SO call them for us!!
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Seriously. Where are all of the shills out there? Why aren't you calling this number to help us verify since you're so sure the government isn't really out to get us? There couldn't possibly be a "list" right? I mean, what are they going to do, throw us in FEMA camps? HAH! Preposterous.. SO call them for us!!
    read my replies since last night
    pages 3,4,5

    infact I slammed those who were calling it BS
    thanks for calling me a shill anyways
    when i first saw the post I was 80% sure it was true
    I listen to AJ too btw
    and yes I believe there are lists of people
    this is not a conspiracy theory only
    its proven facts. what will be done with those lists? I dont know. being afraid to go on a list is something but it doesnt mean Im a wimp. when Im facing a bad situation I stand up for my rights and the rights of my friends & family
    Last edited by Dripping Rain; 03-12-2009 at 10:01 AM.

  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Dripping Rain View Post
    thanks for calling me a shill anyways
    If I'm reading his post right, you misunderstood him. He didn't call you anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...



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  20. #137
    AJ is talking about this when he gets back from break....

  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If I'm reading his post right, you misunderstood him. He didn't call you anything.
    I think he thinks I was one of the naysayers who calls people kooky conspiracy theorists but Im afraid to call the police so that i wont be on a list
    if I read it right
    I hope I read wrong and I apologize if I have
    Last edited by Dripping Rain; 03-12-2009 at 10:06 AM.

  22. #139
    Secret State Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists
    http://www.infowars.com/secret-state...re-terrorists/
    Kurt Nimmo
    Infowars
    March 11, 2009

    Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer.


    The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

    “Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner,” explains the MIAC website. “MIAC is the mechanism to collect incident reports of suspicious activities to be evaluated and analyzed in an effort to identify potential trends or patterns of terrorist or criminal operations within the state of Missouri. MIAC will also function as a vehicle for two-way communication between federal, state and local law enforcement community within our region.”

    MIAC is part of the federal “fusion” effort now underway around the country. “As of February 2009, there were 58 fusion centers around the country. The Department has deployed 31 officers as of December 2008 and plans to have 70 professionals deployed by the end of 2009. The Department has provided more than $254 million from FY 2004-2007 to state and local governments to support the centers,” explains the Department of Homeland Security on its website. Missouri is mentioned as a participant in this federal “intelligence” effort.

    Last month, the ACLU issued a news release highlighting the activity of a fusion center in Texas as the “latest example of inappropriate police intelligence operations targeting political, religious and social activists for investigation,” in particular “Muslim civil rights organizations and anti-war protest groups.”

    The MIAC report does not concentrate on Muslim terrorists, but rather on the so-called “militia movement” and conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order. The MIAC document is a classic guilt by association effort designed to demonize legitimate political activity that stands in opposition to the New World Order and its newly enshrined front man, Barack Obama.

    In September of 2008, Missouri sheriffs and prosecutors organized truth squads to intimidate people opposed to Obama and threatened to arrest and prosecute anybody who ran “misleading television ads.” Missouri governor Matt Blunt eventually denounced the use of “police state tactics” on the part of the Obama-Biden campaign.

    MIAC claims members of a “rightwing” militia movement organized in the 1990s — generally in response to the Oklahoma City bombing and the events at Waco — “continuously exploit world events in order to increase participation in their movements. Due to the current economical and political situation, a lush environment for militia activity has been created” and supposedly exploited by “constitutionalists” and “white supremacists,” the latter an oft-employed canard used to demonize activists as dangerous and potentially violent lunatics.

    MIAC notes many of the political issues cited by the so-called patriot movement — the Ammunition Accountability Act, the impending economic collapse of the government, the possibility of a constitutional convention, the North American Union, Obama’s “Universal Service Program,” and the implementation of RFID, issues that are not limited to the patriot movement but are shared by a wide array of political activists.

    The MIAC document includes a map of the North American Union not dissimilar from one released by NASCO, the North America SuperCorridor Coalition (see the NASCO map here).

    The MIAC report is similar to one created by the Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Joint Terrorism Task Force during the Clinton administration (see page one and page two of the document). The FBI document explicitly designates “defenders” of the Constitution as “right-wing extremists.” The MIAC report expands significantly on the earlier document.

    In order to artificially heighten the perceived threat threshold, MIAC rolls in Christian Identity, white nationalism, “militant” anti-abortion activists, opposition to illegal immigration, and income tax resistance. MIAC deceptively blurs the lines between these disparate political ideologies and underscores the possibility for violence in a summary of the organizational structure of the militia movement and a section describing how members strive to train in “combat readiness.”

    The MIAC effort to characterize Libertarians and Constitutionalists as racists is reminiscent of an attempt by the corporate media in early 2008 to portray Ron Paul as a racist by attempting to link him to a series of vaguely racist newsletters produced in the 1980s. Paul did not exercise editorial control over the newsletters and went so far as to apologize for them, but this did not prevent the corporate media from characterizing him as a racist.

    According to MIAC, opposition to world government, NAFTA, federalization of the states, and restrictive gun laws are a threat to the police. “The militia subscribes to an anti-government and NWO mindset, which creates a threat to law enforcement officers. They view the military, National Guard, and law enforcement as a force that will confiscate their firearms and place them in FEMA concentration camps,” the document claims in a section entitled “You are the Enemy.”

    In regard to supposed militia movement literature and media, the MIAC report mentions Aaron Russo’s America: Freedom to Fascism and William Luther Pierce’s The Turner Diaries — the latter was penned by the former leader of the white nationalist organization National Alliance and the former by a Libertarian filmmaker. In order to underscore the absurdity of the MIAC attempt to link Pierce’s novel and Russo’s anti-tax documentary, it should be noted that the late Aaron Russo was Jewish and The Turner Dairies posits a Zionist government in America (or ZOG, the Zionist Occupation Government) run by Jews.

    The award-winning film Zeitgeist, featuring Alex Jones, is also mentioned as terrorist material.

    The MIAC report is particularly pernicious because it indoctrinates Missouri law enforcement in the belief that people who oppose confiscatory taxation, believe in the well-documented existence of a New World Order and world government (a Google search of this phrase will pull up numerous references made by scores of establishment political leaders), and are opposed to the obvious expansion of the federal government at the expense of the states as violent extremists who are gunning for the police. It specifically targets supporters of mainstream political candidates and encourages police officers to consider them dangerous terrorists.

    MIAC is attempting to radicalize the police against political activity guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If Missouri police indoctrinated by MIAC propaganda overreact to political activists and supporters of Ron Paul in their state and injure or kill people involved in entirely legal and legitimate political activity, MIAC, the governor of Missouri (his name appears on the MIAC document), and the DHS and federal government should be held directly responsible and prosecuted the fullest extent of the law.

  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by ramallamamama View Post
    AJ is talking about this when he gets back from break....
    Im listening to AJ right now
    thanks ram

  24. #141
    "The original American patriots were those individuals brave enough to resist with force the oppressive power of King George. I accept the definition of patriotism as that effort to resist oppressive state power. The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility, and out of self interest -- for himself, his family, and the future of his country -- to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state." -- Ron Paul

  25. #142
    Wow, I can't believe the reactions.

    Originally Posted by acptulsa
    Language is important right now. Don't get carried away and ***** our game. We as supporters of a sitting Republican congressman and former Republican presidential candidate are being singled out as likely militia members who should be watched for fear we commit domestic terror. This is bad enough, it involves all Republicans in our cause, and it's undeniable.
    I'm not a Republican. I am an American. Right now I am an angry American.

    Originally Posted by Bruno
    anyone remember the anti-militia propaganda smear after Oklahoma City?

    In their eyes, militia = terrorists.
    I remember.
    I watched the "investigation". They killed the patsy and blamed the militia.

    Originally Posted by torchbearer
    I don't think we have any militias in Louisiana.
    We play 'airsoft' games... would that be considered 'militia training'?
    The militia is not to be feared. They should be honored.
    The Standing Army of Police was warned of by the founders, and should not exist.
    Some folks got this all backwards.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  26. #143
    I've also forwarded this on to Nat'l HQ of the Constitution Party - we'll see if they have any official response.

  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Some folks got this all backwards.
    I freely admit to you and anyone that my inputs are suggested spin. Fine, now we're angry. Now, how do we get some more people angry? My answer is, by convincing a larger group than us that they need to speak up for us, lest they be next.

    Doesn't mean anyone here doesn't understand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...



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  29. #145
    "In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
    And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
    And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
    And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up." -- Pastor Martin Niemoller

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Warrior View Post
    "In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
    And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
    And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
    And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up." -- Pastor Martin Niemoller
    That always chills me, and I can almost see it happening around me. We have to wake people up! I just sent the article around.

  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    That always chills me, and I can almost see it happening around me. We have to wake people up! I just sent the article around.
    I still remember where I was and who I was with the first time I ever heard it. And that was about twenty-eight years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  32. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Warrior View Post
    "In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
    And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
    And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
    And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up." -- Pastor Martin Niemoller
    It's why I always stand up for accused drug dealers rights on search and seizure, even though I have never touched drugs myself. The alw has to work for them or it won't work for me.

  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    That always chills me, and I can almost see it happening around me. We have to wake people up! I just sent the article around.
    I've been working at it, WITH getting a bunch of crap.


  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    "Constitutionalists singled out as dangerous militia members"

    That kind of is the truth though. That's what a militia is all about. They don't watch movies and eat popcorn.
    Me-thinks we need to be very careful in our language when discussing homeland security issues. The organized groups being called "The Modern Militia Movement" are far removed from our historical militia, (Organized Militia acted in league with local authorities. Un-organized Militia was every able bodied man, who could be called to act in an Organized Militia, when need arose.)

    The Militia method of dealing with Homeland Security issues remains the most sensible, and that is why I'd like to see people be very careful with language. IOW, saying, "That's what a militia is all about." re-inforces the negative stereotyping being foisted on us by those who would rather Americans forget about the quaint old concepts of constitutional "Homeland Security", via a well organized Miltia.

    In this country, I simply see groups of sportsman, and athletes, who gather together, (like any other organization) to better their skills and socialize. I think a dis-service is done when the word "Militia" is attached to such groups.

    I would hope that some will find a way, during this developing event, to promote Dr. Vieira's book, "Constitutional Homeland Security" and the work being done by Walter Reddy to re-invigorate the true "Well-Organized Militia", via working with State Legislatures; which remains the most sensible approach to providing for the common defense, (and a bad-ass Navy- imo...)
    Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.

    What others do pales beside what YOU do.

    Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...

    "Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

    ~ C.Coolidge

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