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    Exclamation Tattling tattoos

    I have tattoos and recommend to people, "do not get them".

    They used to make a powerful, bad ass statement about who and what you are.

    Now, they are just another prop that Idiot AmeriKa likes to carry around on their collective shoulders and are essentially pointless.



    Tattling Tats

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    Becky Akers

    Here’s another reason, as if you needed one, to eschew tattoos: the FBI and several other bureaucracies are researching software that can identify us based on such markings.

    I remain baffled about the popularity of “ink.” What, life isn’t painful enough? Worse, I recently read a novel in which one character, submitting to this barbarism, sees rags—plural—turning red from his blood after the guy wielding the needle wipes the spot he’s tattooing. Good gracious, and you pay for this?

    Speaking of which, why is it that the poorer the person is, the more tattoos he sports? Ditto for overweight: the more excess pounds, the more tattoos. Sure, go ahead and call attention to your four chins with that garish and ghastly green snake writhing up your neck; otherwise, we might not notice your extra 300 pounds.

    And, as a bonus, ink makes it easier for the police state to identify you. Worth all that money and pain, right?

    (Thanks to Mark Luedtke for the link.)

    10:35 am on June 6, 2016
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    FBI under fire over secret project to recognise people by their TATTOOS

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz4ApcsC3vr

    Electronic Frontier Foundation discovered FBI is building software
    Algorithm has proved to be 90% accurate with identifying and matching
    FBI gave images of inmate tattoos to third-parties, without permission
    Civil rights agency say this technology violates the First Amendment

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    I, reluctantly, agree. At least mine are all under cover of clothes if I'm wearing a t-shirt.

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    Any links/tips on removal? I'd go surgical cause its cheap, but wouldn't the scar be just as identifiable?

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    Meh, If they can identify you by your ink they already have your prints, and as unless you get em on your face they are easy enough to cover up. Plus they have been doing this for ages anyway, they kept records on my ink pre-2000 and I'm nobody special.

    They are as pointless as they have ever been, I think your nostalgia is leading you mind here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilfunnystuff View Post
    I think your nostalgia is leading you mind here.
    Yes, I know, nostalgia for a lost world, where you could walk down the street and not be under total surveillance.

    It wasn't that long ago.

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    Woot! Now I'm glad I never got that tramp stamp I considered in the 1990's.
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    This is a good point, they are mostly used by law enforcement for identification so it is no wonder that they encourage inmates get tattoos.

    My friend used to sneak onto military bases when he was younger with his friends and one time they got caught and they asked them if any of them had tattoos or identifying marks. He decided at that time he would never, ever get a tattoo. Not a bad idea.

    I've thrown around a couple of ideas for tattoos, but just never really have seen anything that I would want permanently inscribed on my body.. with the exception maybe of a cannabis plant or leaf, but again that is not something you want a law enforcement officer to see.
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    But it's so trendy!

    Introducing the World’s First Electronic Ink Tattoo
    http://www.emergeinteractive.com/ins...nic-ink-tattoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, I know, nostalgia for a lost world, where you could walk down the street and not be under total surveillance.

    It wasn't that long ago.
    The "identifying marks" thing has been around for ages, even before widespread use of ink. I do think becoming memorable is a problem but that can be because of any number of things, many of which can't be helped. I'm already pretty screwed with a number of identifying marks on my body and none of them are tattoos.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    The "identifying marks" thing has been around for ages, even before widespread use of ink. I do think becoming memorable is a problem but that can be because of any number of things, many of which can't be helped. I'm already pretty screwed with a number of identifying marks on my body and none of them are tattoos.
    Yes, I am well aware of that.

    What is different, what people don't seem to be able to wrap their minds around, is the fact that now, prior to "before", the technology exists to track, identify and monitor in real time, people identified by tattoos.

    And just like all the other creepy surveillance technology that Luddites like myself pointlessly rail against, it will be used by law enforcement.

    So, my advice, just like using a credit card or posting under your real name on FedBook, is don't make it easy for the $#@!ers, make them work a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, I am well aware of that.

    What is different, what people don't seem to be able to wrap their minds around, is the fact that now, prior to "before", the technology exists to track, identify and monitor in real time, people identified by tattoos.

    And just like all the other creepy surveillance technology that Luddites like myself pointlessly rail against, it will be used by law enforcement.

    So, my advice, just like using a credit card or posting under your real name on FedBook, is don't make it easy for the $#@!ers, make them work a little bit.
    What I am saying is that someone of my height and build with the configuration of scars, the altered gait, the Clinodactyly and so forth... I could tattoo a giant bar code on my face and it would be no more distinct. I realize it's being done in real time.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    What I am saying is that someone of my height and build with the configuration of scars, the altered gait, the Clinodactyly and so forth... I could tattoo a giant bar code on my face and it would be no more distinct. I realize it's being done in real time.
    And Theye are working on methods to identify and track you based on those metrics as well.

    Tattoos are just another data point.

    My
    point is: don't pay good money and deface your body for a bunch of wannabe body art that is now about as original and exciting and different and bad ass as a mini van, only to end up having it used by our tormentors to track you.

    Of course, none of this has any place in a supposedly "free country".

    But ain't nobody got any time for that anymore.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 06-06-2016 at 07:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And Theye are working on methods to identify and track you based on those metrics as well.

    Tattoos are just another data point.

    My
    point is: don't pay good money and deface your body for a bunch of wannabe body art that is now about as original and exciting and different and bad ass as a mini van, only to end up having it used by our tormentors to track you.

    Of course, none of this has any place in a supposedly "free country".

    But ain't nobody got any time for that anymore.
    If you are in custody and they have the info to identify you by your tattoo, they have already identified you before. They will know who you are anyway. You are sensationalizing.

    And I don't like the implication that tattoos are some wannabe minivan thing for people younger than you. It sounds like maybe you had a bit of the wannabe thing happening when you got yours the way you say back in the day they were a "powerful, bad ass statement about who and what you are"

    I never thought that about my ink, it was just hey thats some cool $#@!ing art, not some thing that proved I was a badass or something.

    I normally love your posts, but your fear mongering and holier than thou attitude on this topic really irks me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    But it's so trendy!

    Introducing the World’s First Electronic Ink Tattoo
    http://www.emergeinteractive.com/ins...nic-ink-tattoo

    Thats freakin awesome.
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    Mine are all on file. As well as notable scars. My DNA and fingerprints.

    Said it before,,,

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    And, as a bonus, ink makes it easier for the police state to identify you. Worth all that money and pain, right?
    Dat right dere^ is why I've never had a tatt and don't want one. Tatts are for property-prisoners, soliders, cattle, etc. I've heard of suspects being caught because their tatts were caught on security cam footage and/or observed by witnesses.
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    If you've read this far, thank you! This post was created to inspire readers about what could be possible one day with wearable technology. We've heard from many of you who want to license or use the Electronic Ink technology. While many components of this solution exist today, the subdermal e-ink technology is fictional and does not exist today as far as we know.
    End of article........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    [B]And, as a bonus, ink makes it easier for the police state to identify you.
    Nice thinking, good idea! I don't think we can quite swing making it mandatory, but maybe we can incentivize getting tattoos with tax rebates!

    At least until face recognition becomes reliable anyway
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    I have been looking at some for Danke , please feel free to post Danke Tat ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And Theye are working on methods to identify and track you based on those metrics as well.

    Tattoos are just another data point.

    My
    point is: don't pay good money and deface your body for a bunch of wannabe body art that is now about as original and exciting and different and bad ass as a mini van, only to end up having it used by our tormentors to track you.

    Of course, none of this has any place in a supposedly "free country".

    But ain't nobody got any time for that anymore.
    Yeah, I always wanted to get a tattoo that says "Tattoos are stupid"... But I never did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I have been looking at some for Danke , please feel free to post Danke Tat ideas.
    something about HB.
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    Two thoughts:

    1. Over the last 20-something years of allergy treatment, I have had about 5000 shots. I would not do that to myself for recreation or identification.
    2. Gravity happens. What is a butterfly today might look more like a wooly worm in a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Two thoughts:

    1. Over the last 20-something years of allergy treatment, I have had about 5000 shots. I would not do that to myself for recreation or identification.
    2. Gravity happens. What is a butterfly today might look more like a wooly worm in a few years.
    I've done the allergy shot treatment before. I gave it up. I don't know if true but use of local honey seems to have helped more than shots ever did. Still does 30 yrs. after I stopped taking shots. I'm not 100% free, but I wasn't even with the shots.



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    Quote Originally Posted by evilfunnystuff View Post
    If you are in custody and they have the info to identify you by your tattoo, they have already identified you before. They will know who you are anyway. You are sensationalizing.

    And I don't like the implication that tattoos are some wannabe minivan thing for people younger than you. It sounds like maybe you had a bit of the wannabe thing happening when you got yours the way you say back in the day they were a "powerful, bad ass statement about who and what you are"

    I never thought that about my ink, it was just hey thats some cool $#@!ing art, not some thing that proved I was a badass or something.

    I normally love your posts, but your fear mongering and holier than thou attitude on this topic really irks me.
    Meh, can't please everybody.

    Had I the chance to see into the future and see what it has become, I'd not have done any of mine.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 06-06-2016 at 10:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilfunnystuff View Post
    If you are in custody and they have the info to identify you by your tattoo, they have already identified you before. They will know who you are anyway. You are sensationalizing.

    And I don't like the implication that tattoos are some wannabe minivan thing for people younger than you. It sounds like maybe you had a bit of the wannabe thing happening when you got yours the way you say back in the day they were a "powerful, bad ass statement about who and what you are"

    I never thought that about my ink, it was just hey thats some cool $#@!ing art, not some thing that proved I was a badass or something.

    I normally love your posts, but your fear mongering and holier than thou attitude on this topic really irks me.
    Depends. I had a DUI about ten yrs. ago and they asked... "do you have a tattoo? If you do we need to take a picture of it." I told them "No. I was in the Navy and was told that tattoo's lead to HIV from dirty needles." They bought the story but if they hadn't...data based

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    I always tell younger kids: never get tattoos. The government already tracks us so who cares if they have my tattoos on a database. My biggest thing is that tattoos are a sign of low socio economic status. I don't care about the Doctor, Lawyer, or Physicist you know who has tattoos.
    Tattoos are expensive to remove. I should know I'm in the process of having all of mine removed. It took 5 sessions to remove the tattoo on my forearm. I've had 9 sessions on my shoulder and it is almost completely removed. I've had 3 sessions on my elbow tattoo and it is a long way from being removed. I've noticed the longer I go between treatments the more my tattoos fade out. The first tattoo I had removed I started treatments back in 2006. It took me until 2014 and 5 treatments to have that one removed completely. My shoulder tattoo should be completely removed by the end of this year. My goal with my elbow tattoo is to have it off before I turn 40 which is 3.5 years away.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Depends. ,,, and they asked...
    They didn't ask.

    c'est la vie
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    They didn't ask.

    c'est la vie
    Well, I wasn't felonious. $#@! is what it is.

  34. #30
    Focus on the visible tip of the iceberg.

    I've been camping on the damn thing.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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