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    THE LIST OF PRODUCTS AND FOODS THAT HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR MONSANTO’S CARCINOGENIC GLYPHOSATE

    Alex Pietrowski, Staff Writer
    Waking Times

    Monsanto is receiving considerable global backlash after the agrochemical and seed giant was found guilty of malice and of covering the fact that their flagship product can cause cancer.

    At issue is glyphosate, the active chemical ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup and Ranger herbicides. For years, evidence has been mounting that glyphosate is carcinogenic, which is quite alarming considering that it is the most widely used (and overused) agricultural chemical ever.

    “Americans have applied 1.8 million tons of glyphosate since its introduction in 1974. Worldwide, 9.4 million tons of the chemical have been sprayed onto fields. For comparison, that’s equivalent to the weight of water in more than 2,300 Olympic-size swimming pools. It’s also enough to spray nearly half a pound of Roundup on every cultivated acre of land in the world.” ~Newsweek

    Glyphosate is so prevalent in our environment that trace amounts of it is now found in a wide variety of consumer products, including foods and personal hygiene products, in the human body, and in water supplies.

    To some scientists and related officials, none of these products individually contain high enough levels of glyphosate to pose a health risk, however, others argue that consuming trace amounts leads to dangerous accumulations within the body, as it is known to bio-accumulate in major organs and bones.

    The, “EPA’s high-end estimate of infant exposure to glyphosate exceeds the level the Agency considered safe for them in 1983.” [Newseweek]

    The following list of products that have tested positive for glyphosate is quite unsettling, and the retailers who sell these products would do well for themselves to take the lead in calling for an outright ban on glyphosate.


    Products and Foods Which Have Tested Positive for Glyphosate Contamination

    Wheat
    Breakfast Cereals & Snack Foods as tested by DetoxProject (2016)
    Original Cheerios
    Honey Nut Cheerios
    Wheaties
    Trix
    Annie’s Gluten Free Bunny Cookies Cocoa & Vanilla
    Kellog’s Corn Flakes
    Kellog’s Raisin Bran
    Kashi Organic Promise
    Kellog’s Special K
    Kellog’s Frosted Flakes
    Cheez-It Original
    Cheez-It Whole Grain
    Kashi Soft Bake Cookies, Oatmeal, Dark Chocolate
    Ritz Crackers
    Triscuit Crackers
    Oreo Original
    Oreo Double Stuf Chocolate Sandwich Cookies
    Oreo Double Stuf Golden Sandwich Cookies
    Stacy’s Simply Naked Pita Chips (Frito-Lay)
    Lay’s: Kettle Cooked Original
    Doritos: Cool Ranch
    Fritos (Original) (100% Whole Grain)
    Goldfish crackers original (Pepperidge Farm)
    Goldfish crackers colors
    Goldfish crackers Whole Grain
    Little Debbie Oatmeal Cream Pies
    Oatmeal Cookies Gluten Free
    365 Organic Golden Round Crackers
    Back to Nature Crispy Cheddar Crackers
    Breakfast Cereals as Tested by the Environmental Working Group (2018)
    Granola
    Nature’s Path Organic Honey Almond granola
    Back to Nature Classic Granola
    Quaker Simply Granola Oats, Honey, Raisins & Almonds
    Back to Nature Banana Walnut Granola Clusters
    Nature Valley Granola Protein Oats ‘n Honey
    KIND Vanilla, Blueberry Clusters with Flax Seeds

    Instant Oats
    Giant Instant Oatmeal, Original Flavor
    Simple Truth Organic Instant Oatmeal, Original
    Quaker Dinosaur Eggs, Brown Sugar, Instant Oatmeal
    Great Value Original Instant Oatmeal
    Umpqua Oats, Maple Pecan
    Market Pantry Instant Oatmeal, Strawberries & Cream
    Oat Breakfast Cereal
    Kashi Heart to Heart Organic Honey Toasted cereal
    Cheerios Toasted Whole Grain Oat Cereal
    Lucky Charms
    Barbara’s Multigrain Spoonfuls, Original, Cereal
    Kellogg’s Cracklin’ Oat Bran oat cereal
    Snack Bar
    Cascadian Farm Organic Harvest Berry, granola bar
    KIND Oats & Honey with Toasted Coconut
    Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars, Oats ‘n Honey
    Quaker Chewy Chocolate Chip granola bar
    Kellogg’s Nutrigrain Soft Baked Breakfast Bars, Strawberry
    Whole Oats
    365 Organic Old-Fashioned Rolled Oats
    Quaker Steel Cut Oats
    Quaker Old Fashioned Oats
    Bob’s Red Mill Steel Cut Oats
    Nature’s Path Organic Old Fashioned Organic Oats
    Whole Foods Bulk Bin conventional rolled oats
    Bob’s Red Mill Organic Old Fashioned Rolled Oats (4 samples tested)

    Orange Juice Brands as Tested by Moms Across America (2017)
    Tropicana
    Minute Maid
    Stater Bros.
    Signature Farms
    Kirkland
    Ben & Jerry’s Ice Creams
    Staple Crops as Reported by Friends of the Earth Europe (2013)
    Soybeans
    Soybean fodder
    Cotton seed
    Maize grain
    Sorghum
    Cotton seed
    Maize grain
    Barley straw and fodder Grass hay
    Lentils
    Sweetcorn
    Sugar beet
    Miscellaneous
    Women’s Feminine Hygiene Products
    Human Breast Milk as Reported by Mercola (2014)
    Certain Vaccines
    Cotton Clothing Products
    Rainwater Samples (2014)
    Human Urine samples
    Groundwater Supplies

    Final Thoughts
    Additionally, it is believed by some that many products containing GMO’s are at risk of contamination, since glyphosate use has skyrocketed with the development of GMO staple crops.

    The struggle to remove glyphosate from the market place and retire it from use forever is well-underway. Please share this list far and wide, add any additional testing that you find to the comment section below, and pressure your favorite retailers to take these products off the shelves.
    https://www.wakingtimes.com/2018/08/...ic-glyphosate/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Is there any relationship between gluten problems and glyphosate levels?
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    The usual "dosage matters" applies- "detectable levels" are parts per billion. You would have to consume hundreds of pounds of these items every day to reach any problem levels.

    But to be safe, it is best to avoid all foods since all foods will contain measurable levels of some sort of toxin.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/weed-k...oods-1.4055532

    The amounts of glyphosate found in the products typically measured in the hundreds of parts per billion, or less than 0.000001 per cent.

    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...phosate-study/

    EWG detected glyphosate in breakfast foods in the parts per billion range (ppb), which is insignificant to human health.

    “Only trace amounts of glyphosate were found (made possible due to advances in analytical chemistry) and these were far below the levels that are permitted,” Charles said. And according to USA Today, “…. the amount allowed in grains [by the EPA] is 30 parts per million.”

    The levels of glyphosate found by EWG ranged from 0-6% of what are universally considered acceptable levels—30ppm—set by both the US and the EU. And that government-determined level is itself considered incredibly conservative as it is. By the EPA’s standard, you’d have to eat 30 bowls or more of cheerios a day, every day, for more than a year to even approach the US limit, which is itself set 100 times or more lower than what might actually harm someone. EWG just made up its own, ridiculous, scare standard, which is 14,000 times lower than the EPA’s.

    Everything is made up of chemicals, either organic or inorganic. The reality is that the human body has evolved to deal very effectively with minute quantities of chemicals in the world. This is why very few pesticides, most of which are natural, can harm us. Natural chemical pesticides, found in almost every plant, evolved as defensive measures to repel or kill pests like insects that prey on plants.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-21-2018 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The usual "dosage matters" applies- "detectable levels" are parts per billion. You would have to consume hundreds of pounds of these items every day to reach any problem levels.

    But to be safe, it is best to avoid all foods.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/weed-k...oods-1.4055532

    From the very article above:

    To some scientists and related officials, none of these products individually contain high enough levels of glyphosate to pose a health risk, however, others argue that consuming trace amounts leads to dangerous accumulations within the body, as it is known to bio-accumulate in major organs and bones.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Is there any relationship between gluten problems and glyphosate levels?
    I think as time goes on and more information becomes available I am sure you will see a connection.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    From the very article above:
    Waking Times is not a reliable source. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-waking-times/

    https://www.innovationfiles.org/poin...n-breast-milk/

    Claims of Bioaccumulation: Even if the findings claimed are repeatable, they confirm what has long been known: that glyphosate is rapidly eliminated from the body. This is the opposite of bioaccumulation, and nothing presented suggests any reason to reconsider the well founded understanding that glyphosate does not bioaccumulate.
    One reason it does not bioaccumulate is that it is not fat soluble so you can't store it in your fatty tissues.

    The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention note, “Just because we can detect levels of an environmental chemical in a person’s blood or urine does not necessarily mean that the chemical will cause effects or disease. Advances in analytical chemistry enable us to measure low levels of environmental chemicals in people, but separate studies of varying levels of exposure determine whether specific levels cause health effects.” Food naturally contains a wide-array of potentially toxic chemicals such as cyanide, strychnine, carototoxin, and arsenic but they are usually present at levels that do no harm. Any chemical, whether natural or human-made can hurt us if we consume too much of it. Even table salt or iron can kill if too much is consumed. The mere presence of glyphosate in serum, urine or mother’s milk is not a cause for alarm unless the levels are above those known to do harm. Over 4 decades of research studies and real-world use, including studies on large numbers of people who have been exposed to glyphosate, have allowed regulators to understand and set safe levels of exposure. Research has also established that the low levels of glyphosate sometimes found in bodily fluids pose no threat to health. WHO, EFSA, EPA and other regulatory agencies around the globe have concluded that trace levels of glyphosate in food should be of no more health concern than the presence of myriad potentially toxic chemicals that occur naturally in food.”
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-21-2018 at 12:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Waking Times is not a reliable source.

    https://www.innovationfiles.org/poin...n-breast-milk/



    One reason it does not bioaccumulate is that it is not fat soluble so you can't store it in your fatty tissues.

    A Roundup of Roundup® Reveals Converging Pattern of Toxicity from Farm to Clinic to Laboratory Studies
    http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Roundup_of_Roundup.php
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    A Roundup of Roundup® Reveals Converging Pattern of Toxicity from Farm to Clinic to Laboratory Studies
    http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Roundup_of_Roundup.php
    From the people who brought you "Death Camp Fukushima!" Billions dying!

    a doubling or tripling of general mortality rates.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Waking Times is not a reliable source. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-waking-times/

    https://www.innovationfiles.org/poin...n-breast-milk/

    One reason it does not bioaccumulate is that it is not fat soluble so you can't store it in your fatty tissues.
    Are you going to drink a shot of it every morning to prove that it is “rapidly elimnated from the body”?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Waking Times is not a reliable source. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-waking-times/

    I love these new sites that bill themselves as "fact check," but then offer little to no facts. Your own site partially CALLED "fact check" is--itself--loaded with value judgments that are not facts. They can't even spell words correctly. An example from your link. "...well know purveyor of pseudoscience..." Where are the facts to back the opinion that the site he* vilifies is well known?

    Most of your site's critique is adjective phrases like "reliable source" without any facts to back up those phrases.



    *I use the word "he" for clarity. In fact, your article has no author listed at the top of the page. It doesn't even have a date. Facts, indeed!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The usual "dosage matters" applies- "detectable levels" are parts per billion.
    I have already said that parts per billion can be significant in measuring toxicity. For example, some toxins in city water are unacceptable at a few parts per billion. Your logic is that of a wide-eyed kindergartner--a number with all those whopping zeros doesn't matter!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Is there any relationship between gluten problems and glyphosate levels?
    Aside from the fact that there's no evidence to support 99% of gluten problems or the fact that glyphosate is not actually proven cancerous, you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Aside from the fact that there's no evidence to support 99% of gluten problems or the fact that glyphosate is not actually proven cancerous, you mean?
    I’m not on the anti-gluten band wagon, as it currently appears to mostly be a psychosomatic and fad issue.

    But the question is scientifically valid, and worth exploring. Increasing levels of glyphosate may have some effects on sensitive people, and that reaction could be mistaken for a gluten problem, when it is really a contamination issue.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I have already said that parts per billion can be significant in measuring toxicity. For example, some toxins in city water are unacceptable at a few parts per billion. Your logic is that of a wide-eyed kindergartner--a number with all those whopping zeros doesn't matter!
    You and I get along. But what part of this confuses you?

    The levels of glyphosate found by EWG ranged from 0-6% of what are universally considered acceptable levels—30ppm—set by both the US and the EU. And that government-determined level is itself considered incredibly conservative as it is. By the EPA’s standard, you’d have to eat 30 bowls or more of cheerios a day, every day, for more than a year to even approach the US limit, which is itself set 100 times or more lower than what might actually harm someone. EWG just made up its own, ridiculous, scare standard, which is 14,000 times lower than the EPA’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    You and I get along. But what part of this confuses you?
    I didn't actually read any of the thread. I now mostly just come here to mess with Zip.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I’m not on the anti-gluten band wagon, as it currently appears to mostly be a psychosomatic and fad issue.

    But the question is scientifically valid, and worth exploring. Increasing levels of glyphosate may have some effects on sensitive people, and that reaction could be mistaken for a gluten problem, when it is really a contamination issue.
    But we're talking about the same people who insist MSG is dangerous, gluten is irritating, and glyphosate is cancerous. There is no evidence or even any documentation to support that theory.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Are you going to drink a shot of it every morning to prove that it is “rapidly elimnated from the body”?
    Are you equipped to set up the study and monitor the results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Are you equipped to set up the study and monitor the results?
    Arrange the grant and I could put it together.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    But we're talking about the same people who insist MSG is dangerous, gluten is irritating, and glyphosate is cancerous. There is no evidence or even any documentation to support that theory.
    Yes, but that goes both ways. On the other side we have government telling us what is safe or not, and their track record isn’t very good either.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Disclaimer: any post made after midnight and before 8AM is made before the coffee dip stick has come up to optomim level - expect some level of silliness,

    The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are out numbered by those who vote for a living !!!!!!!

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    Disclaimer: any post made after midnight and before 8AM is made before the coffee dip stick has come up to optomim level - expect some level of silliness,

    The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are out numbered by those who vote for a living !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Yes, but that goes both ways. On the other side we have government telling us what is safe or not, and their track record isn’t very good either.
    What do you mean? I think their track record is very good. My beef is that I think the're over cautious. For example, I read somewhere that something upwards of 90% of things that work in mouse studies don't work in human studies. What if the inverse is also true? What if 90% of the research that dead ends at mouse studies would have worked in human studies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    God I hate this place some days.
    THere is almost no truth to anything in this, but I already know nothing we say will convince you.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    Go educate yourself. You just showed us all what a tool you are.

    1. You have no idea what young corn or soy looks like. Because if he was spraying anything except those plants with Round-Up, they would die. Therefore, we know that either he wants to kill his crops (unlikely) or he's spraying something else.

    2. It's a greenhouse. Round-Up is a weed-killer. Why the $#@! would someone need to spray weedkiller in a greenhouse?

    3. "not safe to breath" Seems legit

    4. Quick - name 2 things that are both safe to eat and safe to breathe.


    Now is the time when you call all begin to whine about how mean I am.
    Last edited by angelatc; 08-22-2018 at 02:09 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I’m not on the anti-gluten band wagon, as it currently appears to mostly be a psychosomatic and fad issue.

    But the question is scientifically valid, and worth exploring. Increasing levels of glyphosate may have some effects on sensitive people, and that reaction could be mistaken for a gluten problem, when it is really a contamination issue.
    Read this: https://foodscienceinstitute.com/201...-with-science/

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Yeah. Courtrooms, the ultimate (non) scientific measurement.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    What do you mean? I think their track record is very good. My beef is that I think the're over cautious. For example, I read somewhere that something upwards of 90% of things that work in mouse studies don't work in human studies. What if the inverse is also true? What if 90% of the research that dead ends at mouse studies would have worked in human studies?
    They are both over cautious and intertwined with crony corporatists. Not a good combination. They hinder new developments and are prone to regulatory capture by the big companies.

    Luckily, when something really, truly, and obviously works, it can cut through the bureaucracy rather quickly (but maybe not monopoly patent controls). For instance, the miracle breakthrough on Hep-C treatment was delayed not by the FDA, but by a company that had a key patent, and then took the time to develop a knock-off of their former partners key component, so that they didn't have to share the cure.

    Then there have been the miracle treatments for hair loss and ED...

    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    What do you mean? I think their track record is very good. My beef is that I think the're over cautious. For example, I read somewhere that something upwards of 90% of things that work in mouse studies don't work in human studies. What if the inverse is also true? What if 90% of the research that dead ends at mouse studies would have worked in human studies?
    About their track record... I'm sure it's much better than many of the snake oil salesmen and contaminated food peddlers, but there have been plenty of drugs and food additives that have been removed/recalled from their "OK list" due to not being safe enough.

    Hydrogenated oils may not kill you in a day, but over time, they have proven to be pretty bad.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Took me a while, but I found the original, with the caption: "David Geisler of Possum Run Greenhouse in Bellville, Ohio, uses an electrostatic sprayer to apply a fungicide to poinsettia plants. SEM technology showed that this type of sprayer covered plants more evenly than cold fogger sprayers."

    My scientist friends assured me that the full PPE gear isn't required when applying glyphosate because it's not very toxic.


    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post

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