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    Orlando Shooting Staged By Government - Press TV (????)




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    Ugh. Anti-gun propaganda piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Ugh. Anti-gun propaganda piece.
    Not exactly.
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    Hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Ugh. Anti-gun propaganda piece.
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    Not exactly.
    Might as well be.

    All inarticulate rant, no evidence. Yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Might as well be.

    All inarticulate rant, no evidence. Yay.
    These are interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    These are interesting.
    Yeah, they are. But all they really prove is that some Floridians who wanted to make a viral video have a crappy sense of direction.

    Whether the government staged, or engineered, this event is an irrelevant distraction. One armed civilian on site could have saved dozens of lives. The 'trained professionals' couldn't even be bothered to do simple things like evacuate the patio, or evacuate the whole bar while they knew he was in a restroom. The idea that government gun control could have prevented this is completely disproven by the fact that the FBI investigated him twice, yet Wackenhut was still able to arm him. Does anyone really think that gun bans would apply to Wackenhut?

    We have everything we need to shout down this push for gun control, and all of it is verified. All we can do with this grand expose of viral video makers who can't tell left from right is distract people from our valid, verified arguments.

    It's stupid to even discuss this.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-15-2016 at 11:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Might as well be.

    All inarticulate rant, no evidence. Yay.
    Yep.

    For 99.9% of the public, the guy they brought on to "defend" gun rights was there to look bad.
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    A shooting can't just be a shooting, can it?

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    This just in: Iranian government propaganda station says that Muslim dude totally didn't kill anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa
    One armed civilian on site could have saved dozens of lives.
    Hell for that matter someone could have come up behind him knocked over the head with a beer bottle and knocked him down I can't believe this story I can't believe one man could shoot that many people and no one tried to knock his ass down or tried to throw a bar stool at him or something.
    Last edited by Working Poor; 06-15-2016 at 06:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Does anyone really think that gun bans would apply to Wackenhut?
    Does anyone believe Wackenhut is a person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Does anyone believe Wackenhut is a person?
    Should I have said Wackenhut employees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Hell for that matter someone could have come up behind him knocked over the head with a beer bottle and knocked him down I can't believe this story I can't believe one man could shoot that many people and no one tried to knock his ass down or tried to throw a bar stool at him or something.
    A good helping of disbelief make listening to the story easier.

    Much does not make sense..

    unless you change the scenario,, and view it from a different perspective.
    It really makes no sense (despite revisions) from the start.

    unless it didn't happen that way.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Should I have said Wackenhut employees?
    Cool..

    I don't blame current holders of the Pinkerton name for sins of the past.

    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Should I have said Wackenhut employees?
    Could a Wackenhut Employee have been hired as a player in a training exercise?

    and if so,,

    How many people were shot by police?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Looks like the shooter may have had some alphabet handlers.

    CONFIRMED: FBI Introduced Florida Shooter to "Informants"
    June 14, 2016 (Tony Cartalucci - LD) - It is now confirmed that in addition to two investigations and two interviews, Florida terror suspect Omar Mateen was also approached by "informants" working for the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) over a period of 10 months.

    New York Daily News in their article, "FBI spied on Orlando gay club terrorist Omar Mateen for 10 months in 2013: FBI Director James Comey," would admit (emphasis added):

    Mateen first appeared on authorities’ radar in 2013 after the security guard’s colleagues alerted the FBI to inflammatory statements he made to colleagues claiming “family connections to Al Qaeda,” according to Comey.

    Mateen also told coworkers he had a family member who belonged to Hezbollah, a Shia network that is a bitter enemy of ISIS — the network he pledged allegiance to the night of the carnage, Comey noted.

    The FBI’s Miami office opened an inquiry into Mateen.

    “He said he hoped that law enforcement would raid his apartment and assault his wife and child so he could martyr himself,” Comey said.

    Nevertheless, FBI investigators investigated Mateen, who was born in New York, for 10 months. They introduced him to confidential informants, spied on his communications and followed him. They also interviewed him twice.

    Informants Posing as Handlers

    The significance of this cannot be understated. "Informants" in this context, according to FBI affidavits regarding similar counterterrorism investigations, refers to individuals posing as members of terrorist organizations who approach suspects, coerce them into planning and preparing for terrorist attacks, before finally aiding the FBI in the suspect's arrest before the attack is finally carried out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Looks like the shooter may have had some alphabet handlers.



    More: http://landdestroyer.blogspot.rs/201...d-florida.html
    ......aaaannndddd it all comes together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    ......aaaannndddd it all comes together.
    Yep.

    The plot begins to thicken.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NoSmile View Post
    A shooting can't just be a shooting, can it?
    it can be.

    This is a Police shooting..

    it is different.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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