Russia jet carrying 71 people crashes after Moscow take-off

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43024235

A Russian airliner has crashed after leaving Moscow's Domodedovo airport, killing all 65 passengers and six crew on board.

The Saratov Airlines jet vanished minutes after take-off and crashed near the village of Argunovo, about 80km (50 miles) south-east of Moscow.

The cause of crash is unclear. Investigators and emergency crews are working at the snow-covered site.

The Antonov An-148 was en route to the city of Orsk in the Ural mountains.

Pieces of wreckage and bodies were found spread over a large area. One of the flight recorders has been recovered, officials say.

President Vladimir Putin has expressed his condolences to the victims' families and announced an inquiry into the cause of the crash.

This is the first commercial passenger jet crash for more than a year - 2017 was the safest year on record for air travel.

What we know so far
The plane took off at 14:27 (11:27 GMT) on Sunday. Contact was lost four minutes later.

Flight-tracking site Flightradar24 said it then descended at the rate of 1,000m (3,300ft) per minute.

Eyewitnesses told Russian media that the jet was on fire as it plummeted.

Investigators said the causes they were considering included weather conditions, human error and technical failure - but they did not mention the possibility of terrorism.

Saratov Airlines is based in Saratov, 840km south-east of Moscow.

In 2015 it was banned from operating international flights when surprise inspectors found someone other than the flight crew was in the cockpit.

The airline appealed against the ban and changed its policy before resuming international charter flights in 2016.

It flies mainly between Russian cities but also has destinations in Armenia and Georgia.

Recent Russian air disasters
The country has suffered two major plane crashes since 2015:

A Tu-154 military airliner crashed into the Black Sea with the loss of all 92 people aboard on 25 December 2016, with the disaster blamed on pilot error
A Russian Airbus A321 carrying tourists crashed in Sinai, Egypt, with the loss of all 224 people aboard on 31 October 2015; the Islamic State group said it had placed a bomb aboard

[fedupinmo]

One of the victims was the CFO of Rosatom, Ivanov Vyacheslav.
Interesting that the article doesn't mention that.

[Vieux Canard]

For the first time in nearly 40 years, an Israeli fighter is shot down by a Russian missile over Syria. One day later, a Russian airliner explodes in the sky shortly after takeoff. Coincidence?

[specsaregood]

One of the victims was the CFO of Rosatom, Ivanov Vyacheslav.
Interesting that the article doesn't mention that.

For the first time in nearly 40 years, an Israeli fighter is shot down by a Russian missile over Syria. One day later, a Russian airliner explodes in the sky shortly after takeoff. Coincidence?

2 different implied conspiracy theories in the space of 3 comments, this thread could get interesting.

[juleswin]

I can imagine evil zippy trying and failing to beat his meat at the news of dead Russians. I told capt save a zippy's on here that the red bar wouldn't deter him from posting on this site, we all know evil doesn't take a vacation.

Here's to zippy still posting his pro neocon, establishment news stories after we are all dead and gone

[nikcers]

Thanks Obama

[Zippyjuan]

One of the victims was the CFO of Rosatom, Ivanov Vyacheslav.
Interesting that the article doesn't mention that.

I can't find anything anyplace to confirm that. Link?

Official list: http://www.mchs.gov.ru/operationalpa...item/33515861/

There is a IVANOV VYACHESLAV ANATOLIEVICH listed but it gives his date of birth as 1986. Not the same person.
(somebody on Reddit made the same mistake).

Also wrong about him being CFO of Rosatom. Rosatom's CFO is Rosatom Nikolai Solomon- and he isn't on the passenger list. https://www.bloomberg.com/research/s...capId=53512110 There is nobody by that name on their Officer's list.

[Danke]

Stay away from Russian airlines. Stay away from African airlines. Stay away from south American airlines. Stay away from Asian carriers. Fly American if you have a choice, European second.

[fedupinmo]

I can't find anything anyplace to confirm that. Link?

Official list: http://www.mchs.gov.ru/operationalpa...item/33515861/

There is a IVANOV VYACHESLAV ANATOLIEVICH listed but it gives his date of birth as 1986. Not the same person.
(somebody on Reddit made the same mistake).

Also wrong about him being CFO of Rosatom. Rosatom's CFO is Rosatom Nikolai Solomon- and he isn't on the passenger list. https://www.bloomberg.com/research/s...capId=53512110 There is nobody by that name on their Officer's list.

The one I saw was a screen grab from the Telegraph.

[Raginfridus]

Putin did it.

Iran and N Korea helped.

[FSP-Rebel]

[TheTexan]

Did they determine the cause of the crash?

Was it the Russians?

[TheTexan]

Thanks Obama

He really $#@!ed this one up bad

[acptulsa]

I don't see a Sergei Millian or a Siarhei Kukuts on the list of victims...

http://www.mchs.gov.ru/operationalpa...item/33515861/

See several Sergeis, but none of them were 38 years of age.

[dannno]

..

[Zippyjuan]

..

Except he wasn't on the plane.

https://www.snopes.com/uranium-one-vyacheslav-ivanov/

[Raginfridus]

But if he wasn't on the plane, where was he?

Where are you, Sergei Millian?

[nikcers]

Russian Fighters Killed In Clash With US-Led Coalition Forces In Syria

One of the dead was named as Vladimir Loginov, a Cossack from Russia’s Kaliningrad exclave. Maxim Buga, a
leader of the Cossack community there, said Loginov had been killed around Feb. 7 along with “dozens” of other Russian fighters.
The other man killed was named as Kirill Ananiev, described as a radical Russian nationalist. Alexander Averin, a spokesman for the nationalist party he was linked to, told Reuters Ananiev had been killed in shelling in the same fighting on Feb. 7.

According to the unnamed US and Russian sources, "more than 200 mercenaries, mostly Russians fighting on behalf of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, died in a failed attack on a base and refinery held by U.S. and U.S.-backed forces in the oil-rich Deir Ezzor region" In terms of total body count, the U.S. official put the death toll at about 100, with 200 to 300 injured.

Thanks Obama

[goldenequity]

Russian Fighters Killed In Clash With US-Led Coalition Forces In Syria



Thanks Obama

HERE

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US ready to assist Russia in investigating An-148 crash
http://tass.com/world/989715

most recent I heard was that pilot refused de-icing procedure, was in a 'rush'....
no de-ice may have caused 'speed indicator' sensor malfunctioning
which in turn effected other computerized instrumentation/navigation processes
that in turn caused the major malfunctions.

[dannno]

Except he wasn't on the plane.

https://www.snopes.com/uranium-one-vyacheslav-ivanov/

Then where did he disappear off to

[Weston White]

Except he wasn't on the plane.

And neither were any of the 9/11 hijackers, but that didn't stop you from swallowing that story hook, line, and sinker. In fact I am shocked you are still breathing with all those big-juicies down your throat.

[TheTexan]

And neither were any of the 9/11 hijackers, but that didn't stop you from swallowing that story hook, line, and sinker. In fact I am shocked you are still breathing with all those big-juicies down your throat.

What are you saying, the government lied?

-rep

[Raginfridus]

And neither were any of the 9/11 hijackers, but that didn't stop you from swallowing that story hook, line, and sinker. In fact I am shocked you are still breathing with all those big-juicies down your throat.

They're not even comparable.

[timosman]

Stay away from Russian airlines. Stay away from African airlines. Stay away from south American airlines. Stay away from Asian carriers. Fly American if you have a choice, European second.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ng-at-Honolulu

[enhanced_deficit]

Despite some conspiracy theory comments, this civilian tragedy does not seem like a retalation act by our closest ally two days after above shooting down incidence.

Breaking: Syrian forces down Israeli F-16 near occupied Golan Heights