View Poll Results: Do you support or oppose drug test of Hillary and Trump before next Presidential debate?

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  • Yes

    11 47.83%
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    6 26.09%
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Thread: Performance Enhancement Drugs: Do you support or oppose drug test before next debate?

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Chance of winning
    Were all these polls taken before the recent Obama plane video leak? Then these are dated.


    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    "Do you support or oppose drug test of Hillary and Trump before next Presidential debate?"

    Yes, I mean no...what?


    Not a poll.
    Messed up in hurry.

    If you like Brexit/USexit options, vote Yes.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    $#@!, I dunno. How about we give Trump Viagra and watch him try to find Hillary's pussy?
    I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary's already on that too.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenliad View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary's already on that too.
    Isn't she Moo-Chelle's bitch this week?

    It all gets too confusing who's $#@!ing whom up there on the upper decks...

    Rest assured though it all flows down hill.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Ah is that from Nate Sliver? that map?
    Yup, it's his "nowcast" based on the most recent polling.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Isn't she Moo-Chelle's bitch this week?

    It all gets too confusing who's $#@!ing whom up there on the upper decks...

    Rest assured though it all flows down hill.
    The $#@!ings or the pussy grabbings?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    The $#@!ings or the pussy grabbings?
    Everything wet-n-sloppy.......

    [edit]

    Unless they're $#@!in' you then they're goin' in dry...

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Everything wet-n-sloppy.......

    [edit]

    Unless they're $#@!in' you then they're goin' in dry...


    And probably the wrong hole.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    No.
    I am opposed to drug tests in general..

    and point two,, there are no drugs that would improve them..
    Do you think drug tests should be illegal or do you just not like them?

    I'm hoping no one here thinks they should be illegal. It should be between the employer and employee.

  11. #39
    “I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.”
    ― Hunter S. Thompson

    https://www.goodreads.com/author/quo...ter_S_Thompson

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Do you think drug tests should be illegal or do you just not like them?

    I'm hoping no one here thinks they should be illegal. It should be between the employer and employee.
    An employer has no right to violate a persons privacy.

    Yes it should be illegal to require such an invasion of privacy as a condition of employment.

    Why would you work for someone with that much disregard for your life?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post


    And probably the wrong hole.
    There is a "wrong" hole?
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

    Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.


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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    An employer has no right to violate a persons privacy.

    Yes it should be illegal to require such an invasion of privacy as a condition of employment.

    Why would you work for someone with that much disregard for your life?
    Guilty until proven innocent.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    There is a "wrong" hole?
    Maybe not for you...but that's none of my business...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    An employer has no right to violate a persons privacy.

    Yes it should be illegal to require such an invasion of privacy as a condition of employment.

    Why would you work for someone with that much disregard for your life?
    No one can FORCE you to take a drug test but they can ask you to VOLUNTARILY give up your right to privacy in exchange for employment. No one is being forced to do anything against their will.

    Making it illegal is initiating government force on the employer. In that case it's not voluntary.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Maybe not for you...but that's none of my business...

    Careful! Some teas or herbs can cause Olympic athletes to fail their drug tests!

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    No one can FORCE you to take a drug test but they can ask you to VOLUNTARILY give up your right to privacy in exchange for employment. No one is being forced to do anything against their will.

    Making it illegal is initiating government force on the employer. In that case it's not voluntary.
    Employers were forced to test by Insurance Corporations,, who were enforcing Federal policy.
    It is called Social Engineering. It wasn't Voluntary.
    There is nothing in any way Liberty about it,, and it harms both employers who can not hire the best for the job, and good employees that can not be hired.

    Quit the Dumb $hit
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post

    Quit the Dumb $hit
    Face it. Both the Clowns on stage have vowed to increase the Police State. and the War on Drugs is the most visible front.

    Both will make life worse for millions. There is no lessor evil.. and it is very likely to be Clinton.
    Trump will hire her. were he to take the job.

    What kind of drugs they are on makes no difference.. at all.

    they have handlers to keep them from ODing.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Employers were forced to test by Insurance Corporations,, who were enforcing Federal policy.
    It is called Social Engineering. It wasn't Voluntary.
    There is nothing in any way Liberty about it,, and it harms both employers who can not hire the best for the job, and good employees that can not be hired.

    Quit the Dumb $hit

    I wasn't talking about the government forcing employers to test for drugs. That's wrong for the same reason it's wrong for the government to force employers NOT to test for drugs. You do understand that, right?

    It should be a voluntary agreement between the employer and employee.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post

    It should be a voluntary agreement between the employer and employee.
    I am all for voluntary agreements.
    I have such presently. and though there is no provided "Health Care",, My employer likes me to be a happy worker.
    and will tell me to check my medication if I'm grumpy.

    Drug testing is coercion. and is harmful to everyone.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I am all for voluntary agreements.
    I have such presently. and though there is no provided "Health Care",, My employer likes me to be a happy worker.
    and will tell me to check my medication if I'm grumpy.

    Drug testing is coercion. and is harmful to everyone.
    I started a thread on this in Political Philosophy.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    No one can FORCE you to take a drug test but they can ask you to VOLUNTARILY give up your right to privacy in exchange for employment. No one is being forced to do anything against their will.

    Making it illegal is initiating government force on the employer. In that case it's not voluntary.
    I would also imagine it is for litigation purposes. If one of your employees was high and caused an accident that killed people while on the job, you will get sued just for employing a drug user for the sole fact that he/she fooked up while working under you.

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