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Thread: Doctor in the US for 40 years arrested by ICE for misdemeanor 25 years ago

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Whatever you think of the laws his behavior certainly makes him an "undesirable alien" worthy of deportation.
    Immigrants legal or illegal don't have a right to be here and we have a right to show them the door if their behavior is sub-standard.
    The state of Michigan will probably fight to keep him here. He's a freaking cash cow.



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Without illegal aliens in the country, there would be less pedophilia, rapes, murders, drunk drivers, identity thieves, uninsured motorists, etc, etc, etc.

    You want these crimes and a lot more to be committed because you support these people being here.

    You have murderous contempt for our society.

    You are sick.
    If you say so. Facts say that is not true. With all those immigrants flooding our borders the crime rate must be soaring. Is it?




  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If you say so. Facts say that is not true. With all those immigrants flooding our borders the crime rate must be soaring. Is it?



    There are many other factors involved.
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  5. #64
    The rate at which these people commit crime is debatable.

    That they commit these crimes is not debatable. It is fact

    And you are ok with the crimes that they commit.

    Including pedophilia.



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If you say so. Facts say that is not true. With all those immigrants flooding our borders the crime rate must be soaring. Is it?



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    Come on Zip - you know better than that.

  8. #66
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/u...nts-crime.html

    Contrary to Trump’s Claims, Immigrants Are Less Likely to Commit Crimes


    A central point of an executive order President Trump signed on Wednesday — and a mainstay of his campaign speeches — is the view that undocumented immigrants pose a threat to public safety.

    But several studies, over many years, have concluded that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States. And experts say the available evidence does not support the idea that undocumented immigrants commit a disproportionate share of crime.

    “There’s no way I can mess with the numbers to get a different conclusion,” said Alex Nowrasteh, immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, which advocates more liberal immigration laws.

    Mr. Trump often cites specific cases of undocumented immigrants committing or being charged with crimes, like the 2015 killing in San Francisco of Kathryn Steinle, whose accused killer had repeatedly been convicted of crimes and deported, yet slipped back into the United States.

    His executive order states that many people who enter the country illegally “present a significant threat to national security and public safety.” It directs the Department of Homeland Security to publish a weekly “comprehensive list of criminal actions committed by aliens and any jurisdiction that ignored or otherwise failed to honor any detainers with respect to such aliens.”

    Analyses of census data from 1980 through 2010 show that among men ages 18 to 49, immigrants were one-half to one-fifth as likely to be incarcerated as those born in the United States. Across all ages and sexes, about 7 percent of the nation’s population are noncitizens, while figures from the Justice Department show that about 5 percent of inmates in state and federal prisons are noncitizens.

    Opponents of immigration often point out that in federal prisons, a much higher share of inmates, 22 percent, are noncitizens. But federal prisons hold a small fraction of the nation’s inmates, and in many ways, it is an unusual population. About one-third of noncitizen federal inmates are serving time for immigration offenses — usually re-entering the country illegally after being deported — that are not covered by state law.

    With about 43 million foreign-born people living in the country, and about 11 million of them here illegally, immigrants are a large slice of the population, and are no doubt to blame for a large share of the crime. The Department of Homeland Security has estimated that 1.9 million noncitizens living in the United States — whether legally or illegally — have been convicted of criminal offenses and could be deported. The Migration Policy Institute, a research group that does not advocate immigration policies, estimated that 820,000 of those people were in the country illegally, including 300,000 with felony convictions.

    “The tone and tenor of the president’s executive order blurs the line between who’s a serious criminal and who isn’t,” and between documented and undocumented immigrants, said Randy Capps, the institute’s director of research for United States programs. There is no national accounting of criminality specifically by people who are in the country illegally. But Mr. Nowrasteh said he had analyzed the available figures and concluded that undocumented immigrants had crime rates somewhat higher than those here legally, but much lower than those of citizens.

  9. #67
    Fake News, they pull a bait and switch with illegals and immigrants in general.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  10. #68
    It's real hard to gage the amount of crime people commit that live off the grid. The only studies that get funded on this are funded by partisans to promote an agenda. I know that if I were in a foreign country with a corrupt law enforcement and justice system I would try to stay off the grid completely. Maybe I am an idiot though, I don't think a wall will work either.

    When Chris Cabrera joined the U.S. Border Patrol in 2003, the job involved cruising through vast open stretches of the Rio Grande Valley trying to catch drug smugglers and migrants coming across the Texas-Mexico border. Three years later, the United States began building a fence that was supposed to keep these people out and make his job easier. It quickly became obvious it wasn’t going to work.

    “We came with this 18-foot wall, and the very next day they had 19-foot ladders,” Cabrera recalled recently. “It got to the point where we had so many ladders at the station that they told us to stop bringing the ladders in. It was just insane the number of ladders we had. Hundreds upon hundreds.”

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