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  1. #361
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The Obama administration created the latest waves of immigrants from central America through ill thought out foreign policy that Trump is following. Government created and is exacerbating the problem.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jmdrake again.
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  3. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The problem existed before that and would exist without it.
    It wasn't a crisis.
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  4. #363
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    It wasn't a crisis.
    Yes it was, it was just a smaller crisis.
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  5. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    And I continued:


    Of course, your thinking could be based upon inductive reasoning rather than deductive reasoning, and therefore your conclusions could all be false.


    I lied about nothing. Why do you accuse me of lying?

    JWK

    Make no mistake. There is a very real war taking place on American soil and it is being won by socialists, communists and anarchists, who have successfully obstructed the American People from securing the border of their country.
    Your lie is that anyone equated the forefathers with collectivism. And yes you did lie.
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  6. #365
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    It wasn't a crisis.
    If anyone thinks this "crisis" wasn't created by government, yes I'm talking about ours, they have blinders on.
    "The Patriarch"

  7. #366
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes it was, it was just a smaller crisis.
    That's your opinion. Now tell me when you think it was a crisis, big or small, and when was there the first U.S. interventionism in Latin America?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  8. #367
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes it was, it was just a smaller crisis.
    What time period are you speaking of?
    "The Patriarch"

  9. #368
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I didn't announce that you were a racist. You responded to a post where I was responding to what I just quoted to you. Quit being dishonest. Or at the very least quit responding without considering the context!
    I responded to a specific part of your post and ignored the rest, then you ignored what I said because you can't refute it and called me a racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Good for you. Then you should know the "border crisis" you are concerned about is a government created problem and not merely a government exaggerated problem.
    It is exactly what I said it was, it existed on its own as a problem that government is supposed to deal with and the government refused to do its job and then did things that made it worse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  11. #369
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    What time period are you speaking of?
    The time before the events he claims "caused" the crisis.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  12. #370
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    That's your opinion. Now tell me when you think it was a crisis, big or small, and when was there the first U.S. interventionism in Latin America?


    Excessive and or illegal immigration has been a crisis since the early 1800's and it has far more to do with foreign socialism and other bad political cultures than it has to do with US interventions.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  13. #371
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The time before the events he claims "caused" the crisis.
    So you're saying that before we started meddling in South American affairs there was a crisis of invasion by the brown folks?
    "The Patriarch"

  14. #372
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    Excessive and or illegal immigration has been a crisis since the early 1800's and it has far more to do with foreign socialism and other bad political cultures than it has to do with US interventions.
    LOLOL
    "The Patriarch"

  15. #373
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    If anyone thinks this "crisis" wasn't created by government, yes I'm talking about ours, they have blinders on.


    Foreign bad governments have far more to do with it and always have.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  16. #374
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I responded to a specific part of your post and ignored the rest, then you ignored what I said because you can't refute it and called me a racist.
    You are full of shyt as usual. You quoted everything I said, not a "specific part" of my post. And I didn't ignore what you said liar.

    It is exactly what I said it was, it existed on its own as a problem that government is supposed to deal with and the government refused to do its job and then did things that made it worse.
    Except it did not exist on its on. You cannot point to a time where there was a "border crisis" prior to there being U.S. interventionism in Latin America.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  17. #375
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    So you're saying that before we started meddling in South American affairs there was a crisis of invasion by the brown folks?
    Did I say anything about color?

    The race card is all you have on your side. (Too bad it is completely worn out)
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  18. #376
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    Foreign bad governments have far more to do with it and always have.
    "The Patriarch"



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  20. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    Excessive and or illegal immigration has been a crisis since the early 1800's and it has far more to do with foreign socialism and other bad political cultures than it has to do with US interventions.
    LOL. You are really full of it dude. The "excessive immigration" in the early 1800's was whites from the Unites States moving into Texas which was then owned by Mexico. Now maybe you are complaining about the waves of Irish coming in through Ellis Island but that could hardly be called a "border crisis."
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  21. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Did I say anything about color?

    The race card is all you have on your side. (Too bad it is completely worn out)
    Oh, I'm sorry. Is there a invasion of yellow folks coming from South America?
    "The Patriarch"

  22. #379
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Did I say anything about color?

    The race card is all you have on your side. (Too bad it is completely worn out)
    The guilty flee where no man pursues.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  23. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You are full of shyt as usual. You quoted everything I said, not a "specific part" of my post. And I didn't ignore what you said liar.
    It was quicker to hit the reply with quote button and just reply to the part I wanted to reply to but I only responded to one part and ignored the rest and you didn't respond to my point at all, you just called me a racist.



    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Except it did not exist on its on. You cannot point to a time where there was a "border crisis" prior to there being U.S. interventionism in Latin America.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  24. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    LOL. You are really full of it dude. The "excessive immigration" in the early 1800's was whites from the Unites States moving into Texas which was then owned by Mexico. Now maybe you are complaining about the waves of Irish coming in through Ellis Island but that could hardly be called a "border crisis."
    And we should let happen to us what Mexico let happen to Texas? (By the way, the Texans had the Mexican government's permission to move into Texas)

    Excessive and unselective immigration is a crisis whether it takes places over a land border or through ports and whether it is legal or illegal.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It was quicker to hit the reply with quote button and just reply to the part I wanted to reply to but I only responded to one part and ignored the rest and you didn't respond to my point at all, you just called me a racist.
    Except I DID NOT CALL YOU A RACIST YOU SACK OF SHYT! And yes, I am calling you a sack of shyt because you are one.

    I was replying to a post by Kahless. You responded to my reply. I gave you the context of what I was replying to. Like a lying sack of shyt you falsely claimed that meant I was calling you racist.

    So one more time. You are a sack of shyt. Not a racist. (I don't know if you are or not). But you are a lying sack of shyt. Got it a$$hole?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  26. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The guilty flee where no man pursues.
    And frauds put words in their opponent's mouth, Orig brought color into the debate in order to call me a racist because that is all you people have.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry. Is there a invasion of yellow folks coming from South America?
    Color doesn't matter but zippy can provide you with charts showing large numbers of illegal immigrants are from Asia, many of them go to Mexico legally and then cross our border.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 03-07-2019 at 09:04 PM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  29. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And frauds put words in their opponent's mouth, Orig brought color into the debate in order to call me a racist because that is all you people have.
    Once again, you are a lying sack of shyt.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  30. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Except I DID NOT CALL YOU A RACIST YOU SACK OF SHYT! And yes, I am calling you a sack of shyt because you are one.

    I was replying to a post by Kahless. You responded to my reply. I gave you the context of what I was replying to. Like a lying sack of shyt you falsely claimed that meant I was calling you racist.

    So one more time. You are a sack of shyt. Not a racist. (I don't know if you are or not). But you are a lying sack of shyt. Got it a$$hole?
    LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Another pretext. Kahless was at least honest about what this is really about.

    Does that make it right we should flood white neighborhoods today until only a few remain that are isolated surrounded by a different culture and language, ultimately becoming foreigners in their own community?
    What does it mean when you call my statement about communists a pretext and say "Kahless was at least honest about what this is really about"?
    We all know it means you are claiming that I share the same motivation as Kahless that you claim is racist.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  31. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And frauds put words in their opponent's mouth, Orig brought color into the debate in order to call me a racist because that is all you people have.
    I never called anyone a racist. I make racist comments all the time, even against my own MASTER RACE. You trying to dodge the fact that South American's are predominantly brown is pretty damn funny though.
    "The Patriarch"

  32. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Once again, you are a lying sack of shyt.
    I brought up "brown people" and Orig didn't?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I never called anyone a racist. I make racist comments all the time, even against my own MASTER RACE. You trying to dodge the fact that South American's are predominantly brown is pretty damn funny though.
    I'm color blind and you were trying to imply I am not, I don't want Swedish communists coming here either.
    The color of the people is not relevant and the only reason to bring it up is to imply that I care about it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL



    What does it mean when you call my statement about communists a pretext and say "Kahless was at least honest about what this is really about"?
    We all know it means you are claiming that I share the same motivation as Kahless that you claim is racist.
    Because, you lying sack of shyt I was responding to what Kahless wrote when you responded to me! So, you lying sack of shyt, start a new conversation if you don't want me to point out what kahless was talking about. Got that you lying sack of shyt? Kahless didn't say anything about communism in her post you lying sack of shyt. So you were putting words in kahless mouth and trying to change the subject lying sack of shyt.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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