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    California Democrat Proposes ‘Right to Shelter’ for Every Homeless Person in State

    https://www.breitbart.com/social-jus...rson-in-state/

    12 Dec 2018 2:53

    California State Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) has introduced a bill that would guarantee a “right to shelter” and provide housing for every homeless person in the state.

    The bill, SB 48, declares: “This bill would state the intent of the Legislature to enact legislation that creates a right to shelter for unhoused residents throughout the state.”

    According to the bill, the “right to shelter” would include:

    (1) A safe place to sleep and keep one’s belongings.
    (2) An ability to access the shelter without having to sign up on a daily basis.
    (3) An ability to remain with one’s partner.
    (4) An ability to access services necessary to stabilize one’s life and transition into supportive housing or permanent housing, including mental health, addiction treatment, and other services.

    However, the bill does not explain how the state will pay for the cost of providing the “right to shelter.”

    Last year, 114,000 homeless people were estimated to live in California — more than a quarter of the nation’s total, according to the New York Times. Some come from other states to take advantage of generous welfare benefits and better weather.

    Wiener’s bill does not explain how it will deal with the problem of migration, especially once shelter is guaranteed (at least by law).

    In related news, San Francisco Mayor London Breed insisted on spending a $181 million budget windfall to help the city’s homeless population.

    In addition, the Los Angeles City Council unanimously approved a plan Tuesday to build a homeless shelter in the iconic beachfront community of Venice. Many homeless people have migrated to the town, with its infamously bohemian aesthetic and spectacular public beach.

    The Los Angeles Times reports:

    Longtime Venice resident Laura Silagi described how houses sell for $2 million and more in the upscale neighborhood, yet homeless people live in the alley near her home. “It’s embarrassing, it’s tragic, it’s horrible,” Silagi said.

    Opponents questioned the shelter’s proposed location near the boardwalk, Abbot Kinney Boulevard’s trendy shops and restaurants, as well as several schools.

    Area voters have approved increased sales taxes in recent years to fund assistance to the homeless. The homeless issue threatens to be a major drag on Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti’s presidential ambitions.
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    Every state in the nation should round up their homeless persons and send them a one way ticket to the Greyhound Stations in California.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    According to the bill, the “right to shelter” would include:

    (1) A safe place to sleep and keep one’s belongings.
    (2) An ability to access the shelter without having to sign up on a daily basis.
    (3) An ability to remain with one’s partner.
    (4) An ability to access services necessary to stabilize one’s life and transition into supportive housing or permanent housing, including mental health, addiction treatment, and other services.


    This is worse than trying to get a monkey to read.

    A right to shelter would mean not taxing someone's dwelling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    This is worse than trying to get a monkey to read.

    A right to shelter would mean not taxing someone's dwelling.
    No comrade, the taxes will double and when you lose your house you will have a right to live in a government dorm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    According to the bill, the “right to shelter” would include:

    (1) A safe place to sleep and keep one’s belongings.
    A lot of homeless people are unsafe, this statement seems to be a bit of a contradiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Every state in the nation should round up their homeless persons and send them a one way ticket to the Greyhound Stations in California.
    They already did.



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    I think they should grow some balls and just quarter the homeless with the citizens . Nobody should notice while they are trying to come up with funds to pay the tax on all the texts they sent the past five years .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think they should grow some balls and just quarter the homeless with the citizens . Nobody should notice while they are trying to come up with funds to pay the tax on all the texts they sent the past five years .
    Mandatory quartering of homeless and migrants.

    I like this.

    It violates the last article of the Bill of Rights that has been, until now, un-violated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Mandatory quartering of homeless and migrants.

    I like this.

    It violates the last article of the Bill of Rights that has been, until now, un-violated.
    As any liberal judge will tell you it isn't unconstitutional because they aren't soldiers.

    (Amendment 3 - Quartering Soldiers)

    No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
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    According to the bill, the “right to shelter” would include:

    (1) A safe place to sleep and keep one’s belongings.
    (2) An ability to access the shelter without having to sign up on a daily basis.
    (3) An ability to remain with one’s partner.
    (4) An ability to access services necessary to stabilize one’s life and transition into supportive housing or permanent housing, including mental health, addiction treatment, and other services.
    I'm assuming then that a cable/ESPN package would be included?
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    Can I propose a initiative to tar and feather commie politicians that try to instigate this crap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think they should grow some balls and just quarter the homeless with the citizens . Nobody should notice while they are trying to come up with funds to pay the tax on all the texts they sent the past five years .
    There is plenty of space for them on reservations.
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    How many rooms does Sen. Scott Wiener have in his home? I don't think it is big enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It violates the last article of the Bill of Rights that has been, until now, un-violated.
    Not true comrade. You don't recall the thread a couple years back about how the police forced somebody to let them setup in their house in order to spy on another house?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Can I propose a initiative to tar and feather commie politicians that try to instigate this crap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Not true comrade. You don't recall the thread a couple years back about how the police forced somebody to let them setup in their house in order to spy on another house?
    Here you go:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-apply-to-cops

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    I found typo... should be:

    "entitlement to shelter"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Mandatory quartering of homeless and migrants.

    I like this.

    It violates the last article of the Bill of Rights that has been, until now, un-violated.
    They are pretty far from being soldiers so it flys easily in the 9th district court .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    There is plenty of space for them on reservations.
    Forced conscription in miltia here for homeless if they want to eat . The craziest will be selected as an elite unit to be sent in first .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I'm assuming then that a cable/ESPN package would be included?
    Without ESPN a californian is no different than a somalian fisherman .
    Do something Danke

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    Calm down people, one this only a proposal, they have also proposed universal health care bill that did not go away where and secondly, the No. 2 provision gives them an out to built lots of shelters which many homeless people try to avoid.

    (2) An ability to access the shelter without having to sign up on a daily basis.

    So when analyzing this proposal, stop thinking about average house prices in Cali because if the bill magically passes, they would just make up the beds with public shelter beds and not individual houses/unit apartment buildings

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    Please refer to your copy of The Social Contract, Section A, Paragraph 1 for a description of why other people can take your $#@! and give it to other people that you not only don't give a $#@! about, but don't even like on a humanistic level. It's in there, or so I have been told my whole life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Every state in the nation should round up their homeless persons and send them a one way ticket to the Greyhound Stations in California.
    Followed by a mass showering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Not true comrade. You don't recall the thread a couple years back about how the police forced somebody to let them setup in their house in order to spy on another house?
    You are correct sir...that had slipped my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I'm assuming then that a cable/ESPN package would be included?
    Of course, but limited access. CNN, MSNBC, ESPN and HGTV (so they can watch House Hunters and remodeling shows. They need to know what to demand).

    And internet access. They need to vote in polls and troll the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think they should grow some balls and just quarter the homeless with the citizens . Nobody should notice while they are trying to come up with funds to pay the tax on all the texts they sent the past five years .
    I support the original proposal. There are so many small islands off the coast of California, the possibilities are endless. A sleeping bag and gallon of water to be provided when dropped off. Regular supply runs will drop supplies via helicopter, to be provided by bleeding heart donations. No taxpayer money necessary.
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