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Thread: What effect did Prohibition have on the Roaring Twenties?

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    What effect did Prohibition have on the Roaring Twenties?

    Any history teachers care to share?



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    Is there something specific you would like to know ?

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    Probably inflamed money laundering similar to what it does today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Is there something specific you would like to know ?
    Yes.

    1) did prohibition keep more people sober, which made the roaring twenties safer, saner (would alcohol have made the parties less fun, more crimes make the economy less stable?)

    2) would the economy have been better or worse if alcohol were legal?

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    #1 , prohibition had no effect on sobriety . #2 Econmic growth , in some areas was a combination , to keep it simple, of these factors; improvements in tech, due to the war , mass production/ assembly line , etc, this was urban, agriculture, was distressed , prices low.This caused farmers who were not free and clear to lose back to the banks. the economy lapse came from borrowing, inflating stock prices,speculating in stocks with borowed money. When some companies reported lower than expected earnings , the collapse started.

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    Drinking was "the thing to do" and you had to be "in the know" and "a cool cat" in order to do it. So of course virtually everybody wanted to do it.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    There , is also the human factor ,many,many were killed by the war, then , many many,many were killed by the killer flu ,so, if you were alive , it, was a good thing .....

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    The number of drinkers fell, the consumption rose. There were less partiers, they were just tons louder.



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    There , is also the human factor ,many,many were killed by the war, then , many many,many were killed by the killer flu ,so, if you were alive , it, was a good thing .....
    is it another way of saying that the life was easier for those lucky to be alive, because there was less people worrying about unemployment?

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    Prohibition provides a good example of the division of labor between politics and economics.

    Politics - Voters determine whether alcohol should be illegal

    Economics - Taxpayers should have determined how much of their own individual taxes they gave to the agency that enforced prohibition

    With our current system we use politics to answer economic questions. It's not up to taxpayers to decide how much of their own taxes they give to the DEA...it's up to government planners to decide.

    Economics can be understood with the help of these common sayings...


    If people choose to vote for something...then they should be willing to use their own taxes to help fund it.

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    What effect did Prohibition have on the Roaring Twenties?
    1. It empowered a new type and class of criminals and gangs, with much more power and money than they ever had before.
    2. It corrupted government at all levels.
    3. It made many people think of government as invasive an unwelcome.
    4. It corrupted many in the police, other forms of law enforcement and even the courts.
    5. In spite of its eventual failure, it empowered Feds into believing they could further infringe on State's rights.

    Overall, it was hugely damaging to the US, in ways that we never recovered from.

    Sobriety? Little to no effect. Booze was easy to get, even when illegal.
    Economic effect? Very negative. Lots of resources were directed into fighting alcohol that could have otherwise been used productively. The alcohol market was distorted badly. The money spent on alcohol did not reward the best producers, it rewarded the best criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceNZ View Post
    1. It empowered a new type and class of criminals and gangs, with much more power and money than they ever had before.
    2. It corrupted government at all levels.
    3. It made many people think of government as invasive an unwelcome.
    4. It corrupted many in the police, other forms of law enforcement and even the courts.
    5. In spite of its eventual failure, it empowered Feds into believing they could further infringe on State's rights.

    Overall, it was hugely damaging to the US, in ways that we never recovered from.

    Sobriety? Little to no effect. Booze was easy to get, even when illegal.
    Economic effect? Very negative. Lots of resources were directed into fighting alcohol that could have otherwise been used productively. The alcohol market was distorted badly. The money spent on alcohol did not reward the best producers, it rewarded the best criminals.
    Well said.

    It also made politicians and businessmen partners and they made lots of money in the process.
    Anyone who decided to make booze that was out of the network, so to speak, was taken down. Which meant selective enforcement of prohibition to knock out the competition.

    The drug war is nothing more than a grander scale of alcohol prohibition.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tpoints View Post
    is it another way of saying that the life was easier for those lucky to be alive, because there was less people worrying about unemployment?
    Well , people would have had a much better understanding of own mortality . No person in the US would not have lost at least a family member, co worker or close friend to the war or flu , the avg person would have lost multiple relationships like this, all within avery few short years . Kind of puts a whole new twist on being Sat. night , the bills are paid, you have some money in your pocket , want to go out, have a drink , listen to some music, when half the people you know are dead and you are still young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tpoints View Post
    Yes.

    1) did prohibition keep more people sober, which made the roaring twenties safer, saner (would alcohol have made the parties less fun, more crimes make the economy less stable?)

    2) would the economy have been better or worse if alcohol were legal?

    Is this a school assignment?

    Donnay beat me to it, but I was going to comment that Prohibition in the twenties was just as much a failure as our modern "war on drugs." Prohibition was quickly recognized as the utter failure it was. Sadly, our idiot politicians today can't seem to make that same concession in the "drug war."



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