The Jackboots Are Coming: Mass Arrests, Power Grabs and the Politics of Fear

[Swordsmyth]

SwordShill, I am not interested in debating you any more. You are the very STATIST I deal with in committee all of time. My goal is to replace STATISTS like you, which we are finally beginning to do slowly, but SURELY.

Furthermore, you do not need to worry about me or my views. I do not participate in national circus elections to support the FED anymore and will not vote. I will continue to drill Freedom, Liberty and Fiscal Responsibility to "democrats", "independents", and "republicans" in committee, until it sinks into them what liberty truly is. The most I will ever do is vote local -- if that.

Your idiotic ideas must be shown to be what they are: Surrender to tyrants.

I will not surrender and I will not let you fool others into surrendering.

[Danke]

He ain't lying...we've both been here since the start, and he most certainly did.

I wonder if PAF Knows who she is? I worked closely with her back in 2007-08.

A member here introduced me to RPFs in the summer of 2007, I lurked and finally signed up November.

I made the three round cut and became a delegate to the MN Convention. We voted and got a few to the National one.

[devil21]

Of course his "[COLOR=#111111]the old ex-military fogy" exists. But to keep mentioning that and emphasizing it when Ron Paul was winning with military support over others.

They still make up a large portion of the involved GOP base, though they are slowly dying off. Involved meaning those that go to committee meetings and conventions, etc.

And what voting results are you talking about? Ron Paul didn't get on the ballot to be voted for.

I'm confused. Is that a serious question? In one sentence you talk about Ron's military support then ask what voting results and he didn't get on the ballot? Huh? I'm referring to the 2008 and 2012 primaries, of course. Lots of support but if you look into primary results from military base regions, it didn't translate to votes at the ballot box. Given general voting trends, it showed that Ron won support from younger military who didn't turn out to vote for him. The "old fogeys" did turn out to vote for the establishment candidates, however.

They are both the problem and the banksters use the immigrants/invaders and the native leftists, voting does matter and we will never fix the monetary system if we keep allowing the banksters to import more useful idiots.

You're getting warmer at least. Yes the bankers DO use immigrants to continue to expand government but mainly because they provide new "birth certificate anchor babies" that are securitized into new government debt, which funds the expansion of fed.gov. The rest are side effects and blaming those immigrants, most of whom are actually encouraged to come here via deep state operations, is scapegoating. On a person-to-person basis, the best thing you can do is to reach out to immigrants with a message that resonates with them. I assure you that "free stuff" isn't the message that resonates (or at least resonates any more than any other human responds to "free stuff") with them. A libertarian conservative message does resonate and that is also precisely the reason why libertarians/conservatives are actively being propagandized against them. You know that the TPTB want to end libertarian/conservative ideology completely, right? Finding common ground with immigrants is very, very bad for that goal, hence the constant demonizing by some loud and persistent mouthpieces to prevent that finding of common ground.

Even if the system collapses the banksters will rebuild it as bad or worse if they and their minions can win the post-collapse conflicts.

And that is why it is so important to reach out to them instead of demonizing. Like I said before, by demonizing you're only ensuring the outcome you claim to want to avoid. The reality of the situation is that they're here and they're impressionable. There won't be any wall. There won't be any mass round-ups and deportation. More are coming and despite Trump's rhetoric, it is not being slowed down (whole nother topic there entirely) and is actually increasing. They're not going anywhere. That barn door can't be closed and the horse left years ago. So what option is left? Establish the common ground.....or lose. (eta: And start breeding more and teaching the kids instead of letting the teevee and cell phone do it!) Some of y'all have to start thinking with more of a military mindframe yourselves. Best believe those that are pushing this agenda sure are!

[PAF]

Your idiotic ideas must be shown

I wonder if PAF Knows who she is? I worked closely with her back in 2007-08.

A member here introduced me to RPFs in the summer of 2007, I lurked and finally signed up November.

I made the three round cut and became a delegate to the MN Convention. We voted and got a few to the National one.

I can not make out the pic due to size and graininess so I do not know.

This is but a sample when I coordinated the Congressional District and worked various precincts throughout the day/night, all 3 RP delegates won by landslide. Tampa Convention was a nightmare but it sure was fun! 8 or 10 DHS agents came to "check on us" at the delegate hotel I stayed at, so I gave them all a lecture about the Bill of Rights. They were not interested so walked away one by one.

[PAF]

They still make up a large portion of the involved GOP base, though they are slowly dying off. Involved meaning those that go to committee meetings and conventions, etc.


And that is why it is so important to reach out to them instead of demonizing. Like I said before, by demonizing you're only ensuring the outcome you claim to want to avoid. The reality of the situation is that they're here and they're impressionable. There won't be any wall. There won't be any mass round-ups and deportation. More are coming and despite Trump's rhetoric, it is not being slowed down (whole nother topic there entirely) and is actually increasing. They're not going anywhere. That barn door can't be closed and the horse left years ago. So what option is left? Establish the common ground.....or lose. Some of y'all have to start have started thinking with more of a military mindframe yourselves. Best believe those that are pushing this agenda sure are!

Truer words cannot be said. Hatred of other human beings never accomplishes anything good. Even Ron Paul (and I) frequent Mexico spreading the ideas of liberty and freedom.

[devil21]

Truer words cannot be said. Hatred of other human beings never accomplishes anything good. Even Ron Paul (and I) frequent Mexico spreading the ideas of liberty and freedom.

Just fyi but my comment about military thinking was intentional. I don't mean "guns and force". Rather I mean strategic thinking instead of emotional thinking. Encouraging and manipulating emotional thinking is the method the military thinkers use to control the emotional thinkers. If one is serious about preserving libertarian/conservative ideology, then one must counter military thinking with military thinking. The demonization of immigrants is a military divide-and-conquer strategy based on manipulating emotions.

[PAF]

Just fyi but my comment about military thinking was intentional. I don't mean "guns and force". Rather I mean strategic thinking instead of emotional thinking. Encouraging and manipulating emotional thinking is the method the military thinkers use to control the emotional thinkers. If one is serious about preserving libertarian/conservative ideology, then one must counter military thinking with military thinking. The demonization of immigrants is a military divide-and-conquer strategy based on manipulating emotions.

I stand corrected, now that you explained the position I understand now.

[Swordsmyth]

You're getting warmer at least. Yes the bankers DO use immigrants to continue to expand government but mainly because they provide new "birth certificate anchor babies" that are securitized into new government debt, which funds the expansion of fed.gov. The rest are side effects and blaming those immigrants, most of whom are actually encouraged to come here via deep state operations, is scapegoating. On a person-to-person basis, the best thing you can do is to reach out to immigrants with a message that resonates with them. I assure you that "free stuff" isn't the message that resonates (or at least resonates any more than any other human responds to "free stuff") with them. A libertarian conservative message does resonate and that is also precisely the reason why libertarians/conservatives are actively being propagandized against them. You know that the TPTB want to end libertarian/conservative ideology completely, right? Finding common ground with immigrants is very, very bad for that goal, hence the constant demonizing by some loud and persistent mouthpieces to prevent that finding of common ground.



And that is why it is so important to reach out to them instead of demonizing. Like I said before, by demonizing you're only ensuring the outcome you claim to want to avoid. The reality of the situation is that they're here and they're impressionable. There won't be any wall. There won't be any mass round-ups and deportation. More are coming and despite Trump's rhetoric, it is not being slowed down (whole nother topic there entirely) and is actually increasing. They're not going anywhere. That barn door can't be closed and the horse left years ago. So what option is left? Establish the common ground.....or lose. (eta: And start breeding more and teaching the kids instead of letting the teevee and cell phone do it!) Some of y'all have to start thinking with more of a military mindframe yourselves. Best believe those that are pushing this agenda sure are!

There is no common ground and they don't respond to libertarianism/conservatism, they respond to free stuff because that is what they are taught in their homelands even worse than Americans are taught here.

The immigrants are not inevitable and they don't vote libertarian nor do they want to assimilate.
We can and we must stop the invasion and expel the invaders.

[Swordsmyth]

Truer words cannot be said. Hatred of other human beings never accomplishes anything good. Even Ron Paul (and I) frequent Mexico spreading the ideas of liberty and freedom.

Go ahead and preach to them in their lands all you want but they can't come here unless we tell them they can and we shouldn't do that until their culture significantly changes.

[devil21]

There is no common ground and they don't respond to libertarianism/conservatism, they respond to free stuff because that is what they are taught in their homelands even worse than Americans are taught here.

The immigrants are not inevitable and they don't vote libertarian nor do they want to assimilate.
We can and we must stop the invasion and expel the invaders.

So your answer is that you want them to adopt socialist ideals since you won't even bother to try to offer an alternative. Especially in the face of all evidence that shows that offering an alternative is the only realistic option.

This is the point in a thread when I realize that you really are just a shill for theocratic world government and have no actual desire to address any issues in a realistic way. Just insist on staying on script like a good little foot soldier does.

[Swordsmyth]

So your answer is that you want them to adopt socialist ideals since you won't even bother to try to offer an alternative.

They already have socialist ideals and I never said that, go ahead and try to teach any that we allow to come here or as many as you want in their homelands.

Especially in the face of all evidence that shows that offering an alternative is the only realistic option.

LOL

This is the point in a thread when I realize that you really are just a shill for theocratic world government and have no actual desire to address any issues in a realistic way. Just insist on staying on script like a good little foot soldier does.

You have it reversed as usual, it is your supposedly most hated Catholics that are pushing for this invasion and you are supporting them.

[Anti Federalist]

Truer words cannot be said. Hatred of other human beings never accomplishes anything good.

I agree.

Too bad the people that hate me do not.