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Hey genius, we all do business with the Chinese. Or do you think the computer you're typing your bs on was made in Wisconsin? Sad. You appear unhinged when that's your reply to my posts indicating that Trump's connections with Russian oligarchs are widespread and well documented. Since susano seems to think that Deripaska being a good Russian somehow negates anything I wrote about, here's a much more detailed summary of Trump's connections to Russian billionaires that could have provided basis for a real collusion investigation. Not the fake investigation we've been presented.
part 1
http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog...igarchs-part-i
part 2
http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog...garchs-part-ii
There's others available at that site, also. Rabbit hole is deep, son.
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"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Deputy AG Rosenstein read the report and did not find OoJ or any other major offences. He has great credibility, reputation and fitness to serve. Based on Rosenstein's recommendation, AG Barr and Rosentaien agreed on verdict and then Barr told Congress that there was nothing major to see in full Mueller Report being kept secret.
So we should close this case and Congressman Amash should also take back his statement on this issue.
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Rosenstein defiant as impeachment talk rises
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Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
None of these political cucks have a solution to Trump. Do they think Mike Pence is better? Do they think NANCY PELOSI is better?
A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police
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How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
I'm still eagerly awaiting a libertarian on this forum to explain to me how another supposed libertarian in Congress can possibly support the police state tactics that Amash is supporting here... shredding the Fourth Amendment, illegal (and even legal too) spying, entrapment, falsified investigations, and then accusations of "obstruction" on a crime that did not occur.
Amash could have said Trump has taken actions that are impeachable on a million other items. But he chose this issue to call him out on, showing us all what a clown he truly is. He deserves to lose his office over these statements
Truly devastating considering how much respect I had for him.
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This makes sense seeing as Amash has never warmed up on Trump starting from when he showed up on the scene. Listening to these hacks one would think he turned on Trump after the tariffs were implemented. Also, if his stitck was financial then it would benefit him to be on the establishment side in just about everything not just this.
May need to exercise some skepticism when evaluating claims made by this author.
Does not necessarily means all his arguments and claims should be discredited as biased. There are only two Palestinians in US Congress and it is bit peculair that he found time to 'expose' both based on quick lookup but did not find time to expose any of the many pro-Netanyahu/pro-Likud pro-wars folks in Congress, administration or any of the powerful lobbies that generallybuyfund our politicians.
Rashida Tlaib’s Social Media Account Traffics in Anti-Semitic Hate
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Shane Trejo
Jewish Consultant Attempts to Whitewash Ilhan Omar's Anti-Semitic Reputation
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Apr 4, 2019
Shane Trejo
https://independentpoliticalreport.c...ary-manifesto/Shane Trejo: Libertarian Party Vice Chair Releases Controversial Anti-Military Manifesto
If you were tricked by military recruiters, help prevent the same thing from happening to others. Share your experiences, and speak out boldly,” Vohra said in a Facebook post that immediately generated a polarizing reaction with most of the feedback being resoundingly negative.
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Thomas L. Knapp May 12, 2017 at 06:29
I really, really hate playing the “as a veteran” card, but in this case it seems applicable. As a veteran — US Marine Corps, infantry, non-commissioned officer, Desert Storm, honorably discharged — I say that Mr. Vohra is 100%, completely and without question, right in the thrust of his comments.
I’ve run into Mr. Trejo before — he hangs out with the anti-libertarian nationalist types on Facebook, and he’s obviously learned their tactics (hell, maybe he TAUGHT them their tactics) vis a vis messaging. The “pressure is building on Vohra to resign his post” horseapples isn’t anything based in reality, it’s a “fake it ’til you make it” attempt to create such pressure. Presumably this little gem is an offshoot of the similar ongoing nationalist attacks on LNC chair Nick Sarwark by e.g. Augustus Invictus.
These people are not the Libertarian Party’s friends. Ceteris paribus, everything they say should be disbelieved and all their advice should be ignored. Their mission is to hijack the party for their authoritarian purposes if they can and destroy it if they can’t.
The primary long-term effect of the US entering World War II was to hand eastern Europe over to Stalin and his successors for nearly half a century instead of leaving the Soviet Union as exhausted from defeating Hitler as Germany would have been from being defeated. FDR spent two years trying like hell to find a way to get us into that war and finally managed to bait Japan into giving him a casus belli. Claire Booth Luce was not ENTIRELY correct when she said that he “lied us into a war because he did not have the political courage to lead us into it” — it wasn’t a problem of political courage on his part, but rather reluctance on the part of the American public — but she wasn’t TOO far off the mark.
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
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Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
https://twitter.com/justinamash/stat...31623938183168“Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence”
Given his position on obstruction and how strong a champion of individual rights and small government Amash supposedly is, I'd like to know why he isn't equally as outspoken (has he even said anything...?) about Trump's fourth amendment rights being trampled upon? Weird.
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MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
So this could possibly have more to do with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict than the supposed Chinese business ties that he has. There is a post towards the beginning of this thread that alludes to that. This fits more, because Amash has been calling for impeachment or at the very least, thorough oversight into Trump long before the tariff battles have increased in intensity and at least a full 2 years before the Mueller report was completed.
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I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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We know that the FBI, CIA, DoJ, with assistance of foreign nationals, set people up to frame Trump and those around him. They knowingly used false information to obtain FISA warrants. Americans were unmasked in communications, hundreds of times, illegitimately, without warrants, hundreds of times. This is no different from a SWAT team breaking into the home of an innocent person who resists and that innocent person being charged with obstruction and resisting arrest for defending their innocence. I suppose Amash would think that would be okay, too.
I'm not collectivizing. Amash has chosen to join the dogpile by corrupt bad actors who tried to frame people because he hates Trump.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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There's so much not to like about Trump but I would suspect that's a sticking point for Amash and that he takes it personally.
The son of a Palestinian refugee father and a Syrian immigrant mother, Amash said both of his parents would have been banned from the U.S. under Trump's travel ban that he has deemed "unlawful."
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/nat...414777323.html
Using similar logic, MAGA appointed AG Bill Barr / Deputy AG Rosenstein have Israeli* heritage ( using MAGA's 'Mexican Judge' heritagometer ), are you going to accept as 'facts' claims that MAGA's pro-Israel annoucements regarding Golan Heights few days before Mueller Report release were designed to give them incentive to put 'loyalty to their jewish cousins' above loyalty to US and thus ignore Mueller recommendation about obstruction of justice charges that could risk continuation of "most pro Israel Presidency ever" ?
Would you apply similar loyalty test to MAGA's Israeli* son-in-law in charge of various US taxpayers funded projects in mideast, US dealings with Saudi, Israel-Palestine, Qatar, Iran, Turkey?
What about MAGA's top funder Adelson, do you see any loyalty influences on MAGA's foreign policy because , you know, 'follow the money'?
Lastly, "China" is no longer the main reason for this as was being claimed by yourself and few others until now?
That was just speculative opinion and probably exaggerated to demonstrate a point, it also shows how easily narrative just being pushed until today seems weak suddenly.
Humans have natural biases but it is possible that bias is limited to just not giving benefit of the doubt or no bias at all as we have not seen full Mueller report.
It is also possible that latest polls showing danger of Dems defeating MAGA in 2020 is playing a factor and some Republicans are encouraging explorration of alternatives as a contingecy to avoid prspects of a Dem taking White House in 2020.
PRAGMATISM 2020
Risk of even a glass of water with "D" on it beating GOP-Adelson's current leader in 2020 has gone up as latest polls are showing, it would be prudent for GOP/Libertarians to explore backup alternatives to avoid seeing a left wing neocon like Biden taking charge of WH.
Call it realistic if you must, but optimism without realism leads to unpleasant surprises often.
MAGA DANGER: Rural Iowans ponder Trump alternatives... ; Headwinds for reelection are severe
It is also possible that secretive war mongering in mideast has increased risk of US getting pushed into another major war in mideast if stayed on current course and this is meant as a wakeup call for GOP. Many people still have fresh memory of how badly GOP and its all knowing cheerleaders had miscalculated dynamics and costs of the blunder that GOP-neocons led Iraq war has been.
Iraq/Afghanistan wars disabled 624,000 US troops , Divorces up 42%, Foreclosures up 217%
Or this could be 100% purely based on merits with complete disregard to any other factors.
But the 'China' argument being pushed by some supporters of GOP-Adelson seems very weak now that the motives possibilities box has been sufficutently muddied up. From what is known at this point, JA seems far more credible and principled than leadership of GOP-Adelson including Bolton and anti-nepotism affiliates in the White House.
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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