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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Che fought for Communism, the most evil system in human history.
    +1776.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Che fought for Communism, the most evil system in human history.
    Maybe it's the most abused system?



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    With the 3 hour time difference, one can leave Indy at 5 and arrive in CA at 6:30p.
    You can leave Indy in the dark and get to Caly in the light I think , seems like I have .

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    You can leave Indy in the dark and get to Caly in the light I think , seems like I have .
    You would be travelling slightly slower, not faster, than the Earth rotation. You could leave in dark and arrive in light if you left shortly before dawn.

  7. #35
    so what does a premeditated political stunt like this cost in secret service hours?

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

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    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    so what does a premeditated political stunt like this cost in secret service hours?
    Less than a couple of pennies of your tax increase.
    Last edited by anaconda; 10-08-2017 at 05:21 PM.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    so what does a premeditated political stunt like this cost in secret service hours?
    They're with him no matter where he goes, so...nothing?

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    They're with him no matter where he goes, so...nothing?
    I bet it is a lot cheaper to the tax payer when they stay behind their high walls in DC. Just saying

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Che fought for Communism, the most evil system in human history.
    Well, I just happen to disagree with u. I think capitalism when mixed with imperialism is the greatest evil system in human history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    And what imperialism in South America was the United States engaged in? Funding the rebels against the Communist Sandinstas and fighting Allende in Chile? So you mean fighting slavery?
    Lol, I laugh every time you guys says taxation is slavery but I never actually thought anyone believe that crap. But hey, if you believe that the US was fighting slavery in Chile then I think there is something wrong with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Cuba did not invade other countries. That is true. Though Castro did point nuclear weapons at the US and urge the USSR to use them. Castro and Che made every single person in Cuba a slave. Hugo Chavez prattled about fighting imperialism as well. Venezuela has hyperinflation and the people are starving. It turns out non-interventionist foreign policy is pointless if you combine it with Marxism. For some reason I would rather live in Bill Kristol and Lindsey Graham's America than a country ruled by Che or Castro. But that's just me.
    Lol, Fidel and Che made everyone in Cuba a slave. You lose credibility every time you make cartoonish replies like this to me. I don't even know what to say but SMDH.

    Btw, I completely understand that you would rather live in the bosom of a Jihadi loving, country destroying, globalist like Kristol or Graham. the truth is that most people are just like you and few people would willingly choose to get their hands dirty to fight evil. That is essentially why I like people like Che and have his avatar instead of that of Kristol, he could have taken the easy way out but they choose to fight.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Well, I just happen to disagree with u. I think capitalism when mixed with imperialism is the greatest evil system in human history.
    Socialism terrorizes its own. Imperialism extends its benevolent reach:

    https://www.sott.net/article/273517-...-World-War-Two



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    What kind of moron goes to a foo-ball game in the first place?
    Thus endeth this thread of ridiculousness.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Well, mostly woeman, manginas and minorities
    I realize English is not your first language, but it is woemen, not woeman, at least in this usage.

    Otherwise, well done.

    Who says you're a dummy that cannot process information?
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I realize English is not your first language, but it is woemen, not woeman, at least in this usage.

    Otherwise, well done.

    Who says you're a dummy that cannot process information?
    I was going to come back at you with something witty and bitty but I have decided to be the bigger man and restrain myself. I know its not dementia but rather you seeing an opportunity to throw insults my way and you took it. Yes English is not my first language but even you know that I understand how to use singular and plural words in simple sentences. Heck, you have seen me use that same phrase before where I wrote woemen instead of woeman so you must have known that it was a typo on my part.

    Anyway, being the bigger man that I am, I will stop now. Have a good day

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Well, I just happen to disagree with u. I think capitalism when mixed with imperialism is the greatest evil system in human history.

    Well. You are wrong and isn't debatable. Communist governments killed 100 million of their own people in the 20th Century. Capitalism has helped cut world poverty in half over the last 30 years. Capitalism is the only moral system.

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin
    Lol, I laugh every time you guys says taxation is slavery but I never actually thought anyone believe that crap. But hey, if you believe that the US was fighting slavery in Chile then I think there is something wrong with you.

    I don't believe taxation is slavery. I do believe not being able to own any of your labor or property and not being able to leave a country is slavery. Having the government seize your business and land without compensation is slavery.

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin
    Lol, Fidel and Che made everyone in Cuba a slave. You lose credibility every time you make cartoonish replies like this to me. I don't even know what to say but SMDH.
    That isn't cartoonish. That is true. Here is from just this weeks New York Times using the word slave to describe doctors there. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/29/w...rs-revolt.html

    Here is the Wall Street Journal talking about how doctors in Cuba are basically slaves. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mary-og...ors-1415573715

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin
    Btw, I completely understand that you would rather live in the bosom of a Jihadi loving, country destroying, globalist like Kristol or Graham. the truth is that most people are just like you and few people would willingly choose to get their hands dirty to fight evil. That is essentially why I like people like Che and have his avatar instead of that of Kristol, he could have taken the easy way out but they choose to fight.

    Bill Kristol may as well be the most libertarian person in the universe compared to Che Guevara. Bill Kristol is liberty's best friend compared to Che. A government ruled by Che would relegate people to living like farm animals.

  18. #45
    So now Pence is a much of an idiot as the kneelers. Big shock.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    so what does a premeditated political stunt like this cost in secret service hours?
    He was in Vegas. Just a short flight from there to LA- his other destination. Instead they fly east to Indy, stop by the game for an hour or two and back on the plane westward. That adds a bit of money too. The security detail is going to be paid no matter where he goes but Indy probably added some local security for the visit.

    I have seen estimates of the plane they used costing $42,000 an hour. 2.5 hours from Vegas to Indy and then 3.5 hours to LA (plus time prepping and on the runway). http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...htmlstory.html
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-08-2017 at 08:32 PM.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    so what does a premeditated political stunt like this cost in secret service hours?
    If they are paid by the hour, I wonder if they get paid less traveling west and more traveling east. Guess it all evens out in the end anyway.

  21. #48
    Pence was supposedly there to honor Peyton Manning having his number retired at halftime but he didn't stick around to see it so there wasn't any point to going to the game in Indy. He could have protested the protests in LA (Rams were a home game).
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-08-2017 at 09:39 PM.



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  23. #49
    Rumors Peyton will run for office. I hope not. I want him to buy the Titans and clean house there.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

  24. #50
    Sports should go back to gladiators and chariots. Pull all grant money too, then maybe I'll care if a politician makes an empty gesture like leaving early. He's a veepee, shouldn't Pence be in a bunker somewhere safe if Trump dies on a pretzel?

  25. #51
    I wonder if any team owners or NFL brass were catching a ride on Pense's airplane.

    Kind of like the Klan nazis and the BLMers riding in on the same bus at Charlottesville.

    A sick, symbiotic relationship.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Well, I just happen to disagree with u. I think capitalism when mixed with imperialism is the greatest evil system in human history.



    Lol, I laugh every time you guys says taxation is slavery but I never actually thought anyone believe that crap. But hey, if you believe that the US was fighting slavery in Chile then I think there is something wrong with you.



    Lol, Fidel and Che made everyone in Cuba a slave. You lose credibility every time you make cartoonish replies like this to me. I don't even know what to say but SMDH.

    Btw, I completely understand that you would rather live in the bosom of a Jihadi loving, country destroying, globalist like Kristol or Graham. the truth is that most people are just like you and few people would willingly choose to get their hands dirty to fight evil. That is essentially why I like people like Che and have his avatar instead of that of Kristol, he could have taken the easy way out but they choose to fight.
    $#@!ing strawmen running all over that post comrade.
    "The Patriarch"

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    So now Pence is a much of an idiot as the kneelers. Big shock.
    I don't see Kaepernick as an idiot. The exact opposite. All the ditto heads that chimed in later (post Trump Tweets) are poser hypocrites.

  28. #54
    How 'bout we get politics & the flag out of sports altogether?

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    I don't see Kaepernick as an idiot.
    You would be right about that. He would have to come up a few dozen IQ points to make idiot. He doesn't have anything to say beyond attention seeking behavior. His personal experience is so far from a typical black experience, it's almost laughable. He is the picture of privilege. Give me a break.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    You would be right about that. He would have to come up a few dozen IQ points to make idiot. He doesn't have anything to say beyond attention seeking behavior. His personal experience is so far from a typical black experience, it's almost laughable. He is the picture of privilege. Give me a break.
    Have you ever checked your IQ score? there are centers around the country that would give you a proctored test for a small fee. Just saying

    Also, his personal experience doesn't matter, he empathizes with the people he thinks are being oppressed by the police. I do the same thing with people who are experiencing war even though I have never seen a day of war in my life. If you are one of those people that cannot put yourself in another man's shoes, then there is something seriously wrong with you.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Have you ever checked your IQ score? there are centers around the country that would give you a proctored test for a small fee. Just saying

    Also, his personal experience doesn't matter, he empathizes with the people he thinks are being oppressed by the police. I do the same thing with people who are experiencing war even though I have never seen a day of war in my life. If you are one of those people that cannot put yourself in another man's shoes, then there is something seriously wrong with you.
    Kaepernick's empathy doesn't extend to his wallet or his personal time, I note. Not really sure what he's empathizing about. Michael Brown is not a martyr. Kaepernick might do better to try to seek some common ground and reconciliation rather than creating more division.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Kaepernick's empathy doesn't extend to his wallet or his personal time, I note. Not really sure what he's empathizing about. Michael Brown is not a martyr. Kaepernick might do better to try to seek some common ground and reconciliation rather than creating more division.
    Colin Kaepernick announces he will donate $1 million to charities

    Well, I think his protest is not about one particular person but just his general belief that police are oppressing people of color and he has decided to fight against this in his own way. There is no official way to show empathy, at first you are frustrated because you can only do so much and secondly you just do what feels right to you.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I was going to come back at you with something witty and bitty but I have decided to be the bigger man and restrain myself. I know its not dementia but rather you seeing an opportunity to throw insults my way and you took it. Yes English is not my first language but even you know that I understand how to use singular and plural words in simple sentences. Heck, you have seen me use that same phrase before where I wrote woemen instead of woeman so you must have known that it was a typo on my part.

    Anyway, being the bigger man that I am, I will stop now. Have a good day
    What would Che do?

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