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    Neil Young writes Trump open letter after U.S. president continues to use his music

    Neil Young is upset and writes Open Letter to Trump after he continues to use his music. Neil Young a wealthy singer supports BLM, attacks Trump for building walls. Wants Americans to vote for Biden to vote him out.


    America has a leader building walls around our house and doesn't know black lives matter. At the same time he appeared a protest rally with just 100 on Mount Rushmore calling it white supremacy.




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    America has a leader building walls around our house, who don’t know Black lives matter,” the Grammy Award winner sang of Trump. “It’s time to vote him out.”

    “Your mindless destruction of our shared natural resources, our environment and our relationships with friends around the world is unforgivable,” he wrote.


    The land on and around Mount Rushmore is considered sacred to the Lakota Sioux people, who lived in the area before gold was found there.
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 07-10-2020 at 12:26 AM.



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    President Trump loves to troll these people.
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    Doubtful that this letter is going to change anything. Trump will still use his music.
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    Neil Young has walls around his properties...

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    Well, I hope Neil Young will remember....

    A southern man don't need him around, anyhow.

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    Trump should switch to using all Neil Young music and nothing else.

    That guy is dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Well, I hope Neil Young will remember....

    A southern man don't need him around, anyhow.
    The best thing about Neil Young is a Skynyrd song. +rep.

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    Can someone interpret Young's statement below? I don't read Canadian.


    [Young]: “Because you are in charge of the COVID-19 response here in the USA, I will not sue (as certainly is my right) potentially distracting from your important work at hand protecting and saving American lives,” he continues. “With the enormous power you wield on our behalf, I wish you all the best in your critical battle to save American souls from this threat.”

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    The song that was played, "Keep On Rocking In the Free World", is an anti-American song, written as a protest of Shrub Sr.

    Either the planners or Trump himself were trolling Young, or they were clueless as to the song's meaning, like the nitwits during the Reagan years that somehow took Springsteen's "Born In The USA" as a "patriotic" song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Well, I hope Neil Young will remember....

    A southern man don't need him around, anyhow.
    + rep
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    Well doesn't it fit perfectly !

    "Out of the Blue (cops) and Into the Black (BLM)"

    My My Hey Hey lyrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The song that was played, "Keep On Rocking In the Free World", is an anti-American song, written as a protest of Shrub Sr.

    Either the planners or Trump himself were trolling Young, or they were clueless as to the song's meaning, like the nitwits during the Reagan years that somehow took Springsteen's "Born In The USA" as a "patriotic" song.
    Yep- plus the issue here is copyright & use laws.

    Anytime a campaign plays a song at a rally, they must ensure that they have a public performance license covering the song’s use.

    Even if the campaign does have a proper license to play a song at the campaign’s events, musicians may still be able to assert a legal claim that use of their name infringes right of privacy/publicity; infringes or dilute trademark rights in the musician's name; or falsely implies that they have endorsed the candidate.
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    Maybe Neil shouldn't have sold the rights to his music, it's not his anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Yep- plus the issue here is copyright & use laws.

    Anytime a campaign plays a song at a rally, they must ensure that they have a public performance license covering the song’s use.

    Even if the campaign does have a proper license to play a song at the campaign’s events, musicians may still be able to assert a legal claim that use of their name infringes right of privacy/publicity; infringes or dilute trademark rights in the musician's name; or falsely implies that they have endorsed the candidate.
    I'm thinking that "Fair Use" doctrine applies when used for a non profit political use.

    17 U.S.C. § 107

    Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 17 U.S.C. § 106 and 17 U.S.C. § 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include:[6]

    the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
    the nature of the copyrighted work;
    the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
    the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

    I think the campaign has a right to use it, but hopefully were not using it as some sort of "patriotic" song, because it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkob View Post
    Maybe Neil shouldn't have sold the rights to his music, it's not his anymore.

    I didn’t realize he sold his rights. I always thought he was totally against any use of his catalogue being used commercially. But they were his to sell.
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    Neil needs to get back to work , nobody cares what he says . Get out there and rock it dude .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Yep- plus the issue here is copyright & use laws.

    Anytime a campaign plays a song at a rally, they must ensure that they have a public performance license covering the song’s use.

    Even if the campaign does have a proper license to play a song at the campaign’s events, musicians may still be able to assert a legal claim that use of their name infringes right of privacy/publicity; infringes or dilute trademark rights in the musician's name; or falsely implies that they have endorsed the candidate.
    A Copyright suit agaisnt a president is going to fail in courts. Copyright only happens when that person makes money out of the song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    A Copyright suit agaisnt a president is going to fail in courts. Copyright only happens when that person makes money out of the song.
    Nope- you have to have a public performance license- or the venue does- to play music under copyright.

    And, please use spellcheck- your posts might be taken more seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Nope- you have to have a public performance license- or the venue does- to play music under copyright.

    And, please use spellcheck- your posts might be taken more seriously.
    Seems like he would just take him to court if thats what he was concerned about. He would have his attorney send Trumps attorney a letter not write an open letter about coronavirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Nope- you have to have a public performance license- or the venue does- to play music under copyright.

    And, please use spellcheck- your posts might be taken more seriously.
    I am certain that Trump himself knows 10,000 times more about these laws than you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    America has a leader building walls around our house and doesn't know black lives matter. At the same time he appeared a protest rally with just 100 on Mount Rushmore calling it white supremacy.
    Neil and Coulter need to have sit down and sort this out (perhaps with Steven Bannon as a fact checking observer), all these conflicting claims-counter claims are starting to get bit confusing.





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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Seems like he would just take him to court if thats what he was concerned about. He would have his attorney send Trumps attorney a letter not write an open letter about coronavirus.
    Probably just wants the world to know he doesn't support Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I am certain that Trump himself knows 10,000 times more about these laws than you do.
    LOL- right...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Nope- you have to have a public performance license- or the venue does- to play music under copyright.

    And, please use spellcheck- your posts might be taken more seriously.
    I don't want it to sound like I am defending Trump but he has stated that he obtains all the necessary Public Performance License (PPL) to play copy written material. So every performer is being paid a royalty when their song is played at a Trump venue. If these performers try to sue him they will lose because they are the ones who allowed their music to be licensed in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Probably just wants the world to know he doesn't support Trump.
    No he used Trump to promote fear of Coronavirus and the idea that Trump is responsible for Coronavirus. He is making the virus a partisan blame game because democrats local leaders have $#@! the bed with their response. Probably for money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkob View Post
    Maybe Neil shouldn't have sold the rights to his music, it's not his anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I'm thinking that "Fair Use" doctrine applies when used for a non profit political use.
    But Neil never did give nothing to the Trump man that he didn't, didn't already have ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    No he used Trump to promote fear of Coronavirus and the idea that Trump is responsible for Coronavirus. He is making the virus a partisan blame game because democrats local leaders have $#@! the bed with their response. Probably for money.
    Majority of the 100k+ deaths in America had being related in New York. And Calif.

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