Libertarian Presidential Candidates Champion 'Open Borders'

[Swordsmyth]

Immigration =/= citizenship

Sooner or later it does.

Even if it takes a revolution.

[Swordsmyth]

That's how national sovereignty works. Calling it "communism" is a mischaracterization. The government doesn't own the land. They just control the borders with other countries.

If you want to end national sovereignty and have the only borders be property borders, then you might as well end national sovereignty altogether.

That's exactly what the globalibertarians want.

They either deny or really want the consequence that the whole world is dragged down to the lowest common denominator of tyranny.

[Anti Federalist]

That's exactly what the globalibertarians want.

They either deny or really want the consequence that the whole world is dragged down to the lowest common denominator of tyranny.

"No borders! No walls! No USA at all!"

That's the globatarian goal.

That and reducing the once majority European white population to dispossessed second or third class citizenship, simply because what a good portion of that demographic support are ideas that are a thorn in the side and impediment to globotarian's plans.

[r3volution 3.0]

"No borders! No walls! No USA at all!"

That's the globatarian goal.

That and reducing the once majority European white population to dispossessed second or third class citizenship, simply because what a good portion of that demographic support are ideas that are a thorn in the side and impediment to globotarian's plans.

Don't project; race is of no interest to libertarians one way or the other.

[Anti Federalist]

Don't project; race is of no interest to libertarians one way or the other.

I'm well aware of that.

By refusing to recognize that fact, the open borders mob opens us all to invasion, displacement and genocide.

[r3volution 3.0]

I'm well aware of that.

By refusing to recognize that fact, the open borders mob opens us all to invasion, displacement and genocide.

1. Demographic changes won't significantly affect political outcomes one way or the other; the problem is a matter of human nature.

2. Peaceful immigration isn't invasion.

3. Having hamburger joints displaced by taco stands isn't a problem warranting a political solution.

4. One population being outbred by another isn't genocide.

[Swordsmyth]

Don't project; race is of no interest to libertarians one way or the other.

LOL

There are powerful globalibertarians who seek to artificially change our cultural and racial makeup, we are in the way of their stupid world government schemes.
They don't care about liberty except for themselves.

[r3volution 3.0]

LOL

There are powerful globalibertarians who seek to artificially change our cultural and racial makeup, we are in the way of their stupid world government schemes.
They don't care about liberty except for themselves.

Who are these powerful libertarians controlling the world from behind the scenes?

Seeing as how the world is moving rapidly toward socialism, they seem to be doing a rather $#@! job, no?

[Swordsmyth]

1. Demographic changes won't significantly affect political outcomes one way or the other; the problem is a matter of human nature.

2. Peaceful immigration isn't invasion.

3. Having hamburger joints displaced by taco stands isn't a problem warranting a political solution.

4. One population being outbred by another isn't genocide.

When one culture comes in vast numbers and uses it's political clout to impose big government on another culture it is an invasion by novel means and that is what is happening.

The breeding difference is artificially induced and the active genocide will follow when the foreigners gain sufficient power.

[Swordsmyth]

Who are these powerful libertarians controlling the world from behind the scenes?

Seeing as how the world is moving rapidly toward socialism, they seem to be doing a rather $#@! job, no?

The Kochs are one example.
And they don't care about the move towards socialism as long as they can do as they please as part of the ruling class.

[r3volution 3.0]

When one culture comes in vast numbers and uses it's political clout to impose big government...

Look around you: no need for foreigners to impose big government on this country.

[r3volution 3.0]

The Kochs are one example.

Any others?

[Swordsmyth]

Any others?

The guy who owns Palantir, whatever his name is.

[Swordsmyth]

Look around you: no need for foreigners to impose big government on this country.

Things can and will get worse if they are not kept out and all hope of reducing government will vanish.

[r3volution 3.0]

The guy who owns Palantir, whatever his name is.

A man of such vast powers that we can't remember his name...

Let's look at the Kochs, who are indeed quite libertarian-leaning.

One of their highest priorities, as far as I can tell, is free trade.

They obviously have great influence on politics, considering the recent swing toward lower tariffs, amiright?

Things can and will get worse if they are not kept out and all hope of reducing government will vanish.

I'm sure the GOP will make an about face any day now and start cutting spending, pushing for sound money, etc.

Now's not a good time, though, maybe next term...

[Swordsmyth]

A man of such vast powers that we can't remember his name...

Let's look at the Kochs, who are indeed quite libertarian-leaning.

One of their highest priorities, as far as I can tell, is free trade.

They obviously have great influence on politics, considering the recent swing toward lower tariffs, amiright?



I'm sure the GOP will make an about face any day now and start cutting spending, pushing for sound money, etc.

Now's not a good time, though, maybe next term...

Peter Thiel.

[RJB]

1. Demographic changes won't significantly affect political outcomes one way or the other; the problem is a matter of human nature.

So if you switch the people who live in North and South Carolina with those in Venezuela, the rednecks would adopt Chavez style socialism and the South American Commies would adopt American southern living?

[Swordsmyth]

So if you switch the people who live in North and South Carolina with those in Venezuela, the rednecks would adopt Chavez style socialism and the South American Commies would adopt American southern living?

Magic dirt.

[r3volution 3.0]

Peter Thiel.

And what has been his great and nefarious influence on politics (even supposing he's a libertarian, which I rather doubt)?

[r3volution 3.0]

So if you switch the people who live in North and South Carolina with those in Venezuela, the rednecks would adopt Chavez style socialism and the South American Commies would adopt American southern living?

Venezuelans react to food shortages by demanding price controls, for instance.

Drop some Carolinians into Venezuela, let them experience those same food shortages, and, yes, they'll react in a similar way.

Unfortunately, we might get to test this hypothesis right here at home in the near future.

Stay tuned sports fans.

[Swordsmyth]

And what has been his great and nefarious influence on politics (even supposing he's a libertarian, which I rather doubt)?

He claims to be libertarian but he promotes globalism and surveillance.

[Swordsmyth]

Venezuelans react to food shortages by demanding price controls, for instance.

Drop some Carolinians into Venezuela, let them experience those same food shortages, and, yes, they'll react in a similar way.

Unfortunately, we might get to test this hypothesis right here at home in the near future.

Stay tuned sports fans.

LOL

[axiomata]

He claims to be libertarian but he promotes globalism and surveillance.

And supports Trump.

[Swordsmyth]

And supports Trump.

And?

Shall we list all the bad people who supported Ron?

[RJB]

Venezuelans react to food shortages by demanding price controls, for instance.

Drop some Carolinians into Venezuela, let them experience those same food shortages, and, yes, they'll react in a similar way.

Unfortunately, we might get to test this hypothesis right here at home in the near future.

Stay tuned sports fans.

No. The Venezuelans were in that mess because they elected Bernie Sanders' brother of another mother, Hugo Chavez. Carolinians would not do that. 20 years ago, even Californians would not do that. Now a days, Californians would elect a Hugo Chavez and it is the direct result of immigration.

[Swordsmyth]

No. The Venezuelans were in that mess because they elected Bernie Sanders' brother of another mother, Hugo Chavez. Carolinians would not do that. 20 years ago, even Californians would not do that. Now a days, Californians would elect a Hugo Chavez and it is the direct result of immigration.

Culture matters.

Otherwise the whole world would all be the same because no culture would ever have risen above the dirt.

[ATruepatriot]

No. The Venezuelans were in that mess because they elected Bernie Sanders' brother of another mother, Hugo Chavez. Carolinians would not do that. 20 years ago, even Californians would not do that. Now a days, Californians would elect a Hugo Chavez and it is the direct result of immigration.

Having been driven out of Ca because of that very fact I agree with you 100% Now it is happening to Az.

[RJB]

Having been driven out of Ca because of that very fact I agree with you 100% Now it is happening to Az.

It is frustrating when purists pretend that there is no difference between the governments of Arizona or California or Venezuela, because a relatively free state like Arizona isn't an anarchistic utopia.

We are spoiled in America. Only someone who has never faced hardship can pretend that the US government is as tyrannical against it's people as Pol Pot's Cambodia or modern day Saudi Arabia.

No, my state is not perfect, and I am working to make it better, but it can get a helluva lot worse.

[Swordsmyth]

It is frustrating when purists pretend that there is no difference between the governments of Arizona or California or Venezuela, because a relatively free state like Arizona isn't an anarchistic utopia.

We are spoiled in America. Only someone who has never faced hardship can pretend that the US government is as tyrannical against it's people as Pol Pot's Cambodia or modern day Saudi Arabia.

No, my state is not perfect, and I am working to make it better, but it can get a helluva lot worse.

They are willfully ignorant, it allows them to pursue their fantasies heedless of any risks because they pretend there is nothing to lose.

[ATruepatriot]

It is frustrating when purists pretend that there is no difference between the governments of Arizona or California or Venezuela, because a relatively free state like Arizona isn't an anarchistic utopia.

We are spoiled in America. Only someone who has never faced hardship can pretend that the US government is as tyrannical against it's people as Pol Pot's Cambodia or modern day Saudi Arabia.

No, my state is not perfect, and I am working to make it better, but it can get a helluva lot worse.

I agree, and it can indeed get a hell of a lot worse. Those who spout that utopia have never personally been there to see the "worse" and how bad it truly is and have no clue. They have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the globalist media who hides the reality of it.