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Thread: (Not?) Absolute proof of Chemtrails

  1. #1

    (Not?) Absolute proof of Chemtrails

    This video is not Absolute proof of Chemtrails, but it does show a stunning amount of spraying over Dallas.
    The sky NEVER looked like that in the 70's and early 80's.


    • Is the majority here finally convinced "we are being sprayed?"




    Edit: If you've never seen this (the whole thing), and you vote NO on the poll, then you are an uninformed "dumb-ass."

    Last edited by Indy Vidual; 12-19-2012 at 03:44 PM.
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    I'd venture to say we had less flights in the 70's and 80's, and of course we can't go back and compare emperically.

  4. #3
    I think the fact that our country and many others have been discovered to have done many operations in the past and knowing how maniacal they are, I think there is absolutely no doubt that either occasional or persistent spraying for weather modification and/or other purposes is occurring.
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  5. #4
    Anyone that is familiar with middle school math should be capable of understanding why chemtrails is BS. Its just not possible to carry enough stuff in a plane and spray it at those altitudes and have it even come close to a minimally effective dose amount.

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by rhelwig View Post
    Anyone that is familiar with middle school math should be capable of understanding why chemtrails is BS. Its just not possible to carry enough stuff in a plane and spray it at those altitudes and have it even come close to a minimally effective dose amount.
    That is a terrible argument. Please educate yourself a bit more on the subject.. I'm not even sure what they are but what you said is quite lame.
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  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    That is a terrible argument. Please educate yourself a bit more on the subject.. I'm not even sure what they are but what you said is quite lame.
    Ok, so you don't know what they are but he needs to educate himself more on the subject?

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadOfLiberty View Post
    Ok, so you don't know what they are but he needs to educate himself more on the subject?

    with that statement I meant I have not made up my mind.. I have done much research however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    with that statement I meant I have not made up my mind.. I have done much research however.
    Ah ok.



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  11. #9
    What's the motive?
    It's just an opinion... man...

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneButPaul View Post
    What's the motive?
    They think it's something sinister, I'm sure.

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneButPaul View Post
    What's the motive?
    Who the hell knows?
    All I know is I watch it from time to time. They fly over, criss crossing, on a perfectly clear day (perhaps been clear for days), then I watch the spray spread out over time and completely fill the sky with clouds (note, I'm outside the whole time watching this happen as I till or otherwise tend to my 50'x100' garden and 30'x30' herb patch). So, they are doing something that is creating clouds. And, I experience problems (I have a mild form of asthma) the following day or two with breathing and aching, but not always the same symptoms exactly (although I'm not keeping a log on it).

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadOfLiberty View Post
    I'd venture to say we had less flights in the 70's and 80's, and of course we can't go back and compare emperically.
    I remember the skies when I was younger. We didn't have trails that stay in the sky for hours checkerboarding the skies. Purely from real life observational experience I can tell you that CONtrails do not act like this. They quickly dissipate.
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  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneButPaul View Post
    What's the motive?
    Quote Originally Posted by jonhowe View Post
    They think it's something sinister, I'm sure.
    I know what it's like to avoid long videos, but this one is worth the time:


    What's the motive?
    There are several leading candidates for the real motive (i.e military related/enhanced radar, GeoEngineering, "poison us all a bit more", weather modification, etc)
    • I can tell you for certain, the skies did not used to ever look that way, even with a large amount of airplane traffic.
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  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by jonhowe View Post
    They think it's something sinister, I'm sure.

    Lol. Someone needs to start checking the IP addresses on these accounts. They pop up out of the woodworks when it's time for them to troll threads seeking truth.
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  17. #15

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    These are con trails formed by B-17s and their fighter escort in some cases during WW2.
    Whether or not the contrails that air traffic produces is intentional or not, it does affect weather. I saw a show on PBS Nova I think about a UW researcher who was studying Global Dimming. He was able to compare the effects on 9/12/01 when all air traffic was grounded.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/contrail-effect.html
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  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    Who the hell knows?
    All I know is I watch it from time to time. They fly over, criss crossing, on a perfectly clear day (perhaps been clear for days), then I watch the spray spread out over time and completely fill the sky with clouds (note, I'm outside the whole time watching this happen as I till or otherwise tend to my 50'x100' garden and 30'x30' herb patch). So, they are doing something that is creating clouds. And, I experience problems (I have a mild form of asthma) the following day or two with breathing and aching, but not always the same symptoms exactly (although I'm not keeping a log on it).
    This has happened to me a few times in the 3 months since I've been here in Mesa. Word for word except the gardening. Mesa is like chemtrail central compared to where I lived. They don't even care if anyone notices here.
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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rogue View Post

    Big Friends with little friends flying CAP


    B-17s 8th Air Force 92nd Bomb Group


    These are con trails formed by B-17s and their fighter escort in some cases during WW2.
    Whether or not the contrails that air traffic produces is intentional or not, it does affect weather. I saw a show on PBS Nova I think about a UW researcher who was studying Global Dimming. He was able to compare the effects on 9/12/01 when all air traffic was grounded.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/contrail-effect.html
    Right. Those aren't chemtrails though, as far as I know, I'm just going by what you said.
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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Right. Those aren't chemtrails though, as far as I know, I'm just going by what you said.
    Well, they could be spraying stuff today, I don't know, but I can't tell the difference. Contrails do form clouds though.
    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyRey View Post
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  22. #19
    That is a very low standard for absolute proof.
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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    That is a terrible argument. Please educate yourself a bit more on the subject.. I'm not even sure what they are but what you said is quite lame.
    How do you know? Care to tell us why you think it's a terrible argument?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Right. Those aren't chemtrails though, as far as I know, I'm just going by what you said.
    I think that's the point.
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  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rogue View Post
    Well, they could be spraying stuff today, I don't know, but I can't tell the difference. Contrails do form clouds though.
    I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you, just pointing it out.
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  26. #23
    For one thing, the patterns are different. I live out in the country, some 25 or 30 miles, as a crow flies, away from the Indianapolis airport. Planes fly over all the time to and from the airport.

    When these criss/cross pattern are created, it isn't to and from the airport or they would appear parallel except for some random plane from chicago that might fly south-south-east bypassing Indy, which I notice very seldomly.

    The "seeding" pattern is as much one direction as the other. and at intervals. Not some random thing.

    One other thing I have noticed, from time to time, is that when there is heavy cloud cover, after a seeding?, I can hear a different type of aircraft, sounds huge and very loud with very low freq content, fly overhead at or near dark.

    I'm giving "information" not a judgement.

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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    That is a terrible argument. Please educate yourself a bit more on the subject.. I'm not even sure what they are but what you said is quite lame.
    How is that a terrible argument? If you do even a little basic math its pretty damn obvious that the chemtrails conspiracy theory is totally bogus. There's no way planes can be carrying enough stuff to do much of anything at those altitudes. Do the math! Do it yourself, and stop believing photoshop without at least thinking about it.

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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rogue View Post

    Big Friends with little friends flying CAP


    B-17s 8th Air Force 92nd Bomb Group


    These are con trails formed by B-17s and their fighter escort in some cases during WW2.
    Whether or not the contrails that air traffic produces is intentional or not, it does affect weather. I saw a show on PBS Nova I think about a UW researcher who was studying Global Dimming. He was able to compare the effects on 9/12/01 when all air traffic was grounded.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/contrail-effect.html
    forget it, their minds are made up. No amount of evidence will ever convince them. One guy on here even offered a 250 dollar reward for anyone that could post pictures pre 1980 contrails/chemtrails. When someone posted the pictures like you did he stated that it was too late the offer was withdrawn
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    I certainly hope nobody takes you seriously. Including your family. Your post shows a severe adversity to reality.
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by rhelwig View Post
    How is that a terrible argument? If you do even a little basic math its pretty damn obvious that the chemtrails conspiracy theory is totally bogus. There's no way planes can be carrying enough stuff to do much of anything at those altitudes. Do the math! Do it yourself, and stop believing photoshop without at least thinking about it.
    Planes are heavy. I'm sure glad they don't allow passengers on airplanes. That would be dangerous.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by pcgame View Post
    dude if a chemtrail flew over your house, the chemicals wouldn't affect you, they would affect someone else. The plane is so high in the atmosphere that the wind carries it elsewhere. Affecting people miles away from where you are.
    Then he is affected by the chemtrails sprayed in the next town. It certainly reaches you from the sky, without a doubt. So however you can fit that into your equation.
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