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Anybody listen to it?
Alt-right=I'm not going to listen to it. However, I'm sure it's more interesting than Stephan Molyneaux.
Stop believing stupid things
I said the same thing until I realized I didn't have to compromise any of my beliefs to be a part of the "alt right". If loving the South makes me alt right than so be it.Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru
I don't think the two are even related. I didn't listen so I'm not sure where that came from.
(Never mind, it says alt-right at the link)
The alt-right lost me with their stupid insults and junior high mentality right off the bat so I won't give it a listen either.
Last edited by Origanalist; 03-16-2017 at 10:22 PM.
"The Patriarch"
I've listened to it many times just like I listen to Slate's political podcasts. Rebel Yell and the rest of therightstuff is just /pol/ memes audio version. They aren't talented or original. It's just background noise to me. They say that libertarianism is "degenerate". They want laws to legislate morality.
Last edited by fr33; 03-16-2017 at 10:50 PM.
I've only listened to the first one but it seems pretty on board with Hans Hoppe.
I'm sure the NRx is more your thing
Apparently the guy identifies as a "Christian Anarchist"
This is one of the things I hate the most about the alt right. They have made people connect the south and things like states rights with being idiotic rude jerks instead of with things like honor and principle and chivalry. Robert E. Lee would throw up.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to William Tell again.
"The Patriarch"
Is that bad? You have lost me. Please explain. Thanks!
No its just ironic that Musonius Rufus identifies as such
Ahh, that is the moniker of the Rebel Yell host (I've never listened and am not familiar with it, by the way).
I don't think that ironic is the word that you want.
I have chosen as my moniker here the name of a man who was excommunicated from my church, a church of which I am very much a loyal member in good standing. Ironic?
Gaius Musonius Rufus was a great Stoic philosopher. The Stoics were, by the way, some of the best philosophers. They have been unfairly forgotten and very much overshadowed by Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle in the educational institutions of today. Wait, what am I saying? Ha, ha, ha, you have probably received as much instruction in Greek thought as you have in writing cursive. I should rather say the Stoics have been overshadowed and replaced by such philosophic luminaries as Malcolm X, Tupac Shakur, John Steinbeck, J.D. Salinger, Toni Morrison, Heather, her Two Mommies, and Dr. Seuss.
By choosing to honor Gaius Musonius Rufus, was he being "ironic?" You tell me, Hito. Read up a little on (the real) Gaius Musonius Rufus, and then let me know: what do you think this podcast host was trying to say?
No it was the fact that the man with the moniker of Musonius Rufus identified as a Christian Anarchist like someone else we know that was ironic or should I say coincidental?
......................so I take it your a mormon?
Last edited by Lamp; 03-17-2017 at 02:43 PM.
That was quick reading, Hito! So, tell me about Gaius Musonius Rufus.
That is even less ironic. At least seeing irony in a Christian picking a non-Christian name is... somewhat coherent.
Ironic really, really is not the word you were looking for.
"What a coincidence!" would be more fitting; but not that, even, once you realize how common Christian anarchists actually are, at least in our circles.
True blue, through and through.......................so I take it you are a Mormon?
I'm not a white nationalist
explain
Sure. In the old days the southern cause was defended by people like Lee who were well read and behaved honorably even in the face of their enemies. They were informed on the history of freedom and could have long discussions defending ideas like states rights and such. They treated women with respect and would never refer to a woman on the opposing side as a whore or any of the names the alt right uses. Someone like Lee would never stoop to calling someone a cuck and other insults.
The term southern hospitality shows how people used to think about the south. Even some people in the north who cared nothing about history used to speak highly about southern culture in the early 1900s. The alt right is doing all they can to reverse all of that.
Nothing but a bunch of childish shock jocks who think the stupider they act the cooler they are. Along with their freak show of people like Milo.
I agree with your point and appreciate your putting in a good word for civility and civilization. As well as a bad word for degeneracy -- that's always called for and not heard nearly enough.
That said, to my understanding, the alt-right is anything but monolithic; probably even less so than the libertarian universe (a universe which includes, you'll recall, Howard Stern, and other reprehensible characters). The parts that both you and I would find degenerate are just a reflection of the general degeneracy of our society. But much of the alt-right that I've run across has been well-written, well-rounded, erudite, and not only free of anything profane but advocating a return to very old-fashioned traditional values and a strong moral code (the very thing *I* advocate for! And you, too, I think, William.).
I would say that the fact that this fellow has chosen as a pseudonym a philosopher from archaic Greece (and a good philosopher) indicates that his show is probably not rude and crude. One can hope.
So, what did you find out about Gaius Musonius Rufus? Would you share a synopsis of your findings and your own thoughts regarding them with the rest of us?
He was a roman stoic philosopher who advocated asceticism in order to develop good character.
Yeah, that kind of sums it up, although all the Stoics advocated that, so the asceticism doesn't really set him apart, as key as it was to his philosophy.
I very much like his emphasis on action and results. That good philosophy is lived, not merely written, and that if the philosophy does not lead to tangible good and wholesome felicity in the lives of its practitioners (practitioners, not adherents, note) then what is it good for?
Like love: absolutely nothing!
Worth a listen:
http://tomwoods.com/ep-862-the-alt-right/
The neoreaction is not white nationalism (or at least it wasn't once).
...it perhaps is now, having been popularized, vulgarized.
Nationalism (like socialism) is a vulgar folk religion.
...not a high bar.
Cool, Tom Woods is talking about the alt-right, eh? I'd be interested in what he has to say. I just haven't had time for anyone's videos or podcasts lately, but one of these days.
Feel free to give a synopsis!
I don't know what neoreaction means but from what I hear you have to be a white nat to be in the alt right
It was essentially a group of pragmatic libertarians who rejected both anarcho-capitalism and constitutionalism, in favor of a proprietary state ala Hoppe's "Democracy: The God That Failed." It grew out of the writings of a blogger named Mencius Moldbug. It always contained a "race realist" element, but nothing like the white nationalism of the alt-right (which seems, most lamentably, to have pretty much subsumed neoreaction at this point).
...or one of their dupes.but from what I hear you have to be a white nat to be in the alt right
Hoppe's natural order seems like anarcho capitalism to me??
Hoppe thinks that non-democratic government is preferable to democratic government, but anarcho-capitalism is best of all.
Neoreactionaries recognized that anarcho-capitalism is impossible, and so non-democratic government is actually the best available option.
I kind of agree with both. I'm an anarcho monarchist ala society in The Hobbit
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