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"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Huh. Looks like I may be voting for Gary Johnson after all.
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"I am surprised at the suddenness, as well as the greatness of this revolution. Is not the change we have seen astonishing? What man, two years ago, would have thought it possible?"
- John Adams, July 3, 1776
YOu can write in. They may not count it, but you can do it. Up to you though.
It doesn't look like this is going to win, though, so I think you'll be able to 'none of the above'.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
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- John Adams, July 3, 1776
I'll gladly mark the Obama box if they are going to force my hand.
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Ron Paul supporters staying home = Obama wins anyways... It is a lose-lose situation for Romney.
Every one knows the government is illegitimate. They just don't want the voters expressing it. Not only that but apparently people are only disenfranchised because of that option on the ballet.
I swear more and more im living in a dream world.
Terminus tela viaticus!
Every vote AGAINST Romney and Obama is a vote FOR Liberty! Even not voting at all.
True, not voting at all can be a vote for liberty, but its so much more funny when you vote 3rd party.
Whats more of an embarrassment? Low voter turn out, or having all the 3rd party candidates at up to like 25% of the votes cast???
Would make for a smashing media black out to watch.
Terminus tela viaticus!
Too bad Mitt Romney is not a republican. Is he in the party? Yes. Is he a republican? No.
A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police
We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
- Edward R. Murrow
...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.
How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."
No, it isn't. If you stay home, and don't vote, your opinion counts only for yourself, by yourself. No pollster, ballot reader, or false-flag "technician" who reads the real diebold tally is going to know you abstained. I understand the argument, and I've listened to Lew Rockwell make it quite eloquently. The real fact is, get out and vote.
Remember, it's only the popular vote. It doesn't elect the president (the electorate does). But whether you write in Paul, vote Johnson, or vote Obama (4 years and a contested primary instead of possibility for 8 years without another liberty candidate), please, just do it. Think of it this way, when the person counting (read: discarding) the write-in Ron Paul ballots is struggling to feed themselves after global economic collapse, maybe they might think.. what if I had done different?
A vote for liberty is just that. It's your vote, and that measly slip of paper often ignored, miscounted, and discounted is what you have to give.
Beyond that, get involved. As one more reason to vote, nothing says "unelectable" like someone running for local office who gets asked "so who did you vote for?" and answers "I didn't".
In liberty.
I will just vote for Obama. Pretty much because he can only have 4 more years and Romney could have 8. Plus I love pissing people in my family off.
I agree. Always vote.
Here's three more reasons:
1) It engages you in politics, so you can have reasonable "water cooler" or facebook discussions with "normal" people, and hopefully spread some wisdom.
2) Being a registered voter is how you get on juries. If you can get on a jury and spread some wisdom, you might just save someone's life.
and 3) Even though you have "secret ballots" - There is still a semi-public record of whether or not you voted. And some people will hold it against you if you're not a voter.
AND DON'T FORGET TO LOOK INTO LOCAL LIBERTY CANDIDATES! Go meet the Republicans (and Democrats) to gauge their sincerity. Meet the Libertarians to make sure they are sane. Give time and money to those who are good enough and are running real races, even if they aren't in your locality.
"You cannot solve these problems with war." - Ron Paul
Write in Ron! We said NOBP and now it's bull$#@! we're even reconsidering.
If you can't write him in, then fine, stay home. But don't waste your vote on any of the other 3 guys...
It's just an opinion... man...
Oh, I've already made my commitment. It's in my sig. As far as results? It DOES NOT $#@!ing matter. Period. The establishment wins. Period. Your vote against the machine. Irrelevant.
Whatever you need to believe to justify your belief that you can change that machine then props.
Think of it this way, when the person counting (read: discarding) the write-in Ron Paul ballots is struggling to feed themselves after global economic collapse, maybe they might think.. what if I had done different?
Voting "none of the above" feels like saying, "Eh, I'm fine with whoever you give me" more than what you think it does.
The way I see it, if you're left-wing, vote for Jill Stein. If you're libertarian, vote for Gary Johnson. If you're right-wing, vote for Virgil Goode, etc.
Voting Republican or Democrat only justifies the two party system we've got.
I think that some of the people that have said it here have said it mostly symbolically, but not quite as literally as you're taking it.
Hell, I doubt Ron Paul even believes in this "No One But Paul" stuff. I'll be justified there when/if he endorses someone.
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"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
"Some supporters of the war use their religion to justify the war. Evidently, I’ve been reading from a different Bible." — Ron Paul
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In the 2008 primary, Ron Paul received over 1.2 million votes. If each of those people convert only 5 others to vote for Ron, we can win the nomination.
The DHS now all of the sudden has access and can spy on everything you're during on Facebook & Twitter? No way!
Signed,
Americans who didn't know about the Nazi concentrations camps till 1945.
Oh I'll show up. Even if I leave the Presidential choice blank, I will be voting.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
—Charles Mackay
"god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
-Anonymous
Absolutely not true. There aren't enough hardcore Paul supporters.
Also, Romney is looking good as of today and would win easily. Union members are leaving Obama as well as blacks, women and Jews. That is the Democrat base. Heck, Romney has pulled ahead of Obama in Michigan. That is very telling.
Plus Obama has nothing going for him. The economic indicators all suck and aren't getting better in the next 5 months.
Seriously, some need to get off their high horse thinking Romney will lose without us. All the polling data and basic math says otherwise. And no, I'm not supporting or voting for Romney. No way in hell would I sell out - won't mention any names.
If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.
We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.
Actually, you are dead wrong. Polling shows Romney and Obama are neck and neck and shifting the lead, and the 10 to 14% who poll 'undecided' with that choice don't like either of them, and DO like Ron Paul. I think it was CNN that did a compilation of their undecideds over multiple polls to get a sufficient sample and tried to figure out 'who we are'.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Ya, Romney is the fall guy. The establishment is satisfied with the status quo. As the establishment thugs might say; "Why fix what ain't broken". Obama has given them more than they could have hoped for. Why shift gears when there is no need?
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“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened”.
- Josef Stalin
As a natural born American Citizen, I'll stay home, once I have a country worthy of calling home(and not just in 'comparison').
1. You can write in if you want.
2. You can absatin from voting for president if you want. I doubt anyone who has already commited to not voting for Romney is going to change their mind because they can't find a vote for no one box.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
I'm voting for Obama.
A lot of people here are delusional or just in denial.
Keeping Obama in office allows us to stay focused on the real issues and keep the enemy in our sights.
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