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    Individual and Family Philanthropy

    Americans gave $373.25 billion in 2015. This reflects a 4.1% increase from 2014.1
    Corporate giving in 2015 increased to $18.46 billion - a 3.9% increase from 2014.1
    Foundation giving in 2015 increased to $57.19 billion - a 6.5% increase from 2014.1

    In 2015, the largest source of charitable giving came from individuals at $268.28 billion, or 71% of total giving; followed by foundations ($57.19 billion/16%), bequests ($28.72 billion/9%), and corporations ($18.46 billion/5%).1
    In 2015, the majority of charitable dollars went to religion (32%), education (15%), human services (12%), grantmaking foundations (11%), and health (8%).12
    International affairs experienced the largest giving increase in 2015, receiving 17.5% more than the previous year.1
    Charitable giving accounted for 2.1% of gross domestic product in 2015.1
    Historically, charitable giving rises about one-third as fast as the stock market.2
    Approximately 91% of high net worth households give to charity.3
    On average, high net worth donors gave $25,509 to charity in 2015. By comparison, general population households gave $2,520 on average.3


    Charitable Organizations: the tax-exempt sector

    In May 2015, there were approximately 1,521,052 charitable organizations in the United States.4
    There are an estimated 316,532 congregations in the United States in May 2015.4
    Sources of revenue for tax-exempt organizations in 2012 were program service revenues, including government contracts and fees (73%), contributions, gifts, & government grants (21%) and lastly, dues, special event income, rental income and net sales from goods (6%).4


    Volunteering (Individuals)

    Approximately 62.8 million Americans — 25 percent of the adult population — volunteer their time, talents, and energy to making a difference.5
    The 2015 national value of volunteer time is $23.56 per hour. In other words, Americans contribute $184 billion of their time to our communities.5
    The top four national volunteer activities are fundraising or selling items to raise money (25.7%), food collection or distribution (23.8%), general labor or transportation (19.8%), and tutoring or teaching (17.9%).6
    The top four volunteer areas are for religious (34.2%), educational (26.5%), social service (14.4%), and health (8.0%) organizations.6


    Donor-Advised Funds

    There were 269,180 donor-advised fund accounts in 2015.7
    Donor-advised funds held $78.64 billion in assets in 2015.7
    Annual contributions into donor-advised funds were $22.26 billion in 2015.7
    Donors recommended grants from donor-advised funds totaling $14.52 billion to charities in 2015.7
    Average donor-advised fund account size was $235,727 in 2015.7


    Supporting Organizations

    There are more than 57,000 Supporting Organizations operating in the United States.8
    Supporting organizations have combined total assets of $76-billion.9


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    What are you people on about.

    The point is to bring a bit of justice to society, and make those who have money pay a little more especially the corporations and companies. While taxing the poorest.

    The financial sector needed regulating.

    If a centre left party can't reform society, then a libertarian party would only let those who are richer get richer, and those who are poor worst off. That is infantile thinking. Life isn't work hard and have only pennies and then just die. There needs to be some respect for people.

    If Libertarian offers this, it doesn't show it.


    Why do you hate rich people's dogs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    We all live in unfair world with exceptionally greedy people out there. You can't defend that, or corporations dodging taxation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    We all live in unfair world with exceptionally greedy people out there. You can't defend that, or corporations dodging taxation.
    Indeed. Like the cowards who want to steal other people's money but are too cowardly to do it themselves so they send government thugs.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Republicanguy again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Indeed. Like the cowards who want to steal other people's money but are too cowardly to do it themselves so they send government thugs.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Republicanguy again.
    I touched him for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I touched him for ya.
    Thanks



    Phrasing
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Thanks



    Phrasing
    Oops... sorry about that.

    Seems he's in competition with 56ktarget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    We all live in unfair world with exceptionally greedy people out there. You can't defend that, or corporations dodging taxation.

    You sound pretty greedy yourself. Maybe you should stop dodging responsibility.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    How am I greedy, is it fair to live in a society where the poorest have no chance of owning a home. You and the libertarian crowd only believe that the billionaire lifestyle will somehow trickle down to everyone in the western world. You are wrong.

    The libertarian system is immoral. Giving via charity isn't in anyway to conduct a society. America is an example in many places of a society with no social democracy, only keeping the wealthy propped up, and would be worse off under a Libertarian government, which would be weak. Franklin Roosevelt was correct about the policies of the New Deal. A pension for every American.

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    When will you know the theory of libertarian policy will work? Where does it end.

    Libertarian policies only benefit the well off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    The libertarian system is immoral.
    Be careful with this. A truly libertarian position is the product of a specific foundation for moral code which is the spiritual brotherhood of men under the common fatherhood of God. This is a concept which expresses the spiritual relationship of God to Man and, in the light thereof, of Man to Man and effectively government to man. As more and more people have flocked to libertarianism as a kind of fad, this foundation for moral code is gradually eroding. It's very easy for one to identify oneself as a libertarian and at the same time not understand what that means. More and more these days it is observable that people want to run with the principles but too often the foundation for moral code is ignored. The foundation for moral code must be accepted or rejected as an Indivisible whole with the fundamental principles. Otherwise one is invalidating ones right of claim to liberty's benefits fully.

    What we're seeing evolve are a lot of libertines who just think they're libertarian. Unfortunately, this is starting to kind of redefine the idea of libertarianism itself. Even this forum.

    Anyway. Just be careful not to make a false claim against libertarianism. Many times you have people who really aren't libertarian (although they think they are) making a bad name for libertarianism because poeple like you think you're arguing with a libertarian when you're really not. You end up saying bad things about libertarianism unfairly.

    About 9 times out of 10, it's likely a libertine that you're arguing with. Not a libertarian.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 05-14-2017 at 04:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post

    Libertarian policies
    No such thing.

    Individual Liberty isn't defined by legislation. If anyone tells you that it is, then, they do not understand liberty. Monarchists try to pull that horse pucky a lot when they say Individual Liberty is best applied by a worldly King.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 05-12-2017 at 08:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    How am I greedy[?],...
    Using government to make others give you things.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Republicanguy again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    No libertarianism is immoral, you don't need religion and some bubble god to dictate how to behave that is fascism, like religion. Only a sense of some right and wrong.

    Saying that taxation is theft in the twenty first century is ignorant. We don't live in 1917 or in 1817.

    Where does it end, when will you know the final theory a Libertarian society, freedom can't exist, anymore than the Communist's ownership of all land. This is simply wrong. No pay phone service for Armed forces, no shelters, nothing. Somehow charity will provide for it all.

    A mad free for all, last person there takes all, winners and losers.

    Liberty is just a myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parasiticmoocherguy View Post
    No libertarianism is immoral, you don't need religion and some bubble god to dictate how to behave that is fascism, like religion. Only a sense of some right and wrong.

    Saying that taxation is theft in the twenty first century is ignorant. We don't live in 1917 or in 1817.

    Where does it end, when will you know the final theory a Libertarian society, freedom can't exist, anymore than the Communist's ownership of all land. This is simply wrong. No pay phone service for Armed forces, no shelters, nothing. Somehow charity will provide for it all.

    A mad free for all, last person there takes all, winners and losers.

    Liberty is just a myth.
    *yawn*

    Don't you have a dole queue to go stand in, prole?

    (Or do they do that electronically now, for the convenience of parasitic moochers?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    No libertarianism is immoral, you don't need religion and some bubble god to dictate how to behave that is fascism, like religion. Only a sense of some right and wrong.

    Saying that taxation is theft in the twenty first century is ignorant. We don't live in 1917 or in 1817.

    Where does it end, when will you know the final theory a Libertarian society, freedom can't exist, anymore than the Communist's ownership of all land. This is simply wrong. No pay phone service for Armed forces, no shelters, nothing. Somehow charity will provide for it all.

    A mad free for all, last person there takes all, winners and losers.

    Liberty is just a myth.
    LOL, that should be easy to cut. I haven't seen a pay phone in years.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    You are just self centered.

    A pay phone meaning years ago military officers could make calls to their family members for free as they were a part of the government. I was made aware as far back as the beginning of this decade, free calls to family didn't exist where in the Union or deployed overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    *yawn*

    Don't you have a dole queue to go stand in, prole?

    (Or do they do that electronically now, for the convenience of parasitic moochers?)
    You can't defend liberty, you just can't. It is a deluded system, like the communist system even though people interchangeably say socialist-communist. When there are some differences. Sure there are communists who encircle themselves with socialist mindsets.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Republicanguy again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    You don't care about society only the means for you, and you alone. Charity alone doesn't work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBYmeLBWjeI



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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Parasiticmoocherguy View Post
    You are just self centered.
    Says the spoiled and greedy little narcissist who wants to force others to give him stuff he wants ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Parasiticimoocherguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    *yawn*

    Don't you have a dole queue to go stand in, prole?

    (Or do they do that electronically now, for the convenience of parasitic moochers?)
    You can't defend liberty, you just can't. It is a deluded system, like the communist system even though people interchangeably say socialist-communist. When there are some differences. Sure there are communists who encircle themselves with socialist mindsets.
    *longer yawn*

    You didn't answer my questions.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 05-18-2017 at 08:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parasiticmoocherguy View Post
    You don't care about society only the means for you, and you alone. Charity alone doesn't work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBYmeLBWjeI
    Charity alone works just fine.

    The only "problem" with it is that greedy, self-centered narcissists like you can't mooch as much from it as you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Republicanguy again.
    Well, as usual, I have to follow you around and take care of your light work.

  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    You are just self centered.
    So?

    A pay phone meaning years ago military officers could make calls to their family members for free as they were a part of the government. I was made aware as far back as the beginning of this decade, free calls to family didn't exist where in the Union or deployed overseas.
    Don't join the service if it doesn't pay enough to make a phone call. Doesn't sound like a good job, anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Well, as usual, I have to follow you around and take care of your light work.
    Thanks, Doc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  32. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    How am I greedy, is it fair to live in a society where the poorest have no chance of owning a home. You and the libertarian crowd only believe that the billionaire lifestyle will somehow trickle down to everyone in the western world. You are wrong.

    The libertarian system is immoral. Giving via charity isn't in anyway to conduct a society. America is an example in many places of a society with no social democracy, only keeping the wealthy propped up, and would be worse off under a Libertarian government, which would be weak. Franklin Roosevelt was correct about the policies of the New Deal. A pension for every American.
    Who gives even half a $#@! if the poorest own a home?

    I'm in the work or starve sector, if you don't or won't work then watch your children starve, if you won't work wrap them in the same newsprint you call a blanket for yourself, if you won't work then spend your days picking nits from your childs hair as they wail in agony from disease and hunger...

    Or integrate yourself into a neighborhood that will voluntarily support you.

    To expect corporations or individuals you've never met to carry your water is absolutely insane.

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    You don't care about society only the means for you, and you alone. Charity alone doesn't work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBYmeLBWjeI
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  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    You are just self centered.

    A pay phone meaning years ago military officers could make calls to their family members for free as they were a part of the government. I was made aware as far back as the beginning of this decade, free calls to family didn't exist where in the Union or deployed overseas.
    Officers free phone calls must have been a British Army thing . These days people have the net so the expense of overseas phone calls is eliminated .
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