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Thread: (Not?) Absolute proof of Chemtrails

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    forget it, their minds are made up. No amount of evidence will ever convince them. One guy on here even offered a 250 dollar reward for anyone that could post pictures pre 1980 contrails/chemtrails. When someone posted the pictures like you did he stated that it was too late the offer was withdrawn
    What do his pictures prove specifically? That there's contrails in the air seconds after a plane flies by? The planes are in the pictures. It is only proof of contrails, in case we needed any.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by pcgame View Post
    dude if a chemtrail flew over your house, the chemicals wouldn't affect you, they would affect someone else. The plane is so high in the atmosphere that the wind carries it elsewhere. Affecting people miles away from where you are.
    Are you kidding me? You think the stuff was just a small spot over my house? The stuff covers miles and miles.

    And noone photoshoped my skies right in front of my eyes, so, the, "There's not enough stuff mathmatically to do that" doesn't explain anything.
    Last edited by ClydeCoulter; 12-20-2012 at 10:12 AM.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    What do his pictures prove specifically? That there's contrails in the air seconds after a plane flies by? The planes are in the pictures. It is only proof of contrails, in case we needed any.
    It proves you are meterologically ignorant. Like I said even if you looked at picture #4 you wouldn't admit that is exactly the same as the OP.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    Are you kidding me? You think the stuff was just a small spot over my house? The stuff covers miles and miles.

    And noone photoshoped my skies right in front of my eyes, so, the, "There's not enough stuff mathmatically to do that" doesn't explain anything.
    Lol no $#@! right? I wonder how many deniers would stand next to me here in Mesa and call me a liar.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    It proves you are meterologically ignorant. Like I said even if you looked at picture #4 you wouldn't admit that is exactly the same as the OP.
    Wow calm down. I'll take another look at that pic later.
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  8. #36
    The funny thing is is that the government does put chemicals in some planes but they are the prevent contrails for stealth.

    That should blow your mind! The chemtrails are invisible!

  9. #37
    For the people that are really interested.
    http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/8/168...-1689-2008.pdf
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneButPaul View Post
    What's the motive?
    Fear, greed, hate and a hunger for power are some of the motives!
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by rhelwig View Post
    Anyone that is familiar with middle school math should be capable of understanding why chemtrails is BS. Its just not possible to carry enough stuff in a plane and spray it at those altitudes and have it even come close to a minimally effective dose amount.
    The lunatics around here will rip you to shreds for saying that.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    I live out in the country, some 25 or 30 miles, as a crow flies, away from the Indianapolis airport.
    a chem-trail dropping crow, or just a normal crow?



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    The lunatics around here will rip you to shreds for saying that.
    You shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  15. #42
    So, do the lunatics realize that a link to a study was posted in this thread that proved contrails create clouds?

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    So, do the lunatics realize that a link to a study was posted in this thread that proved contrails create clouds?
    Well do you?

    Answer me this, why is there an abundance of Barium, Aluminum and Strontium in soils? Where is that coming from?


    Do you deny that they are geoengineering?

    Even when our own government admits it that geoengineering will help the so-called global warming?

    http://acrf-campaign.arm.gov/isdac/
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ngeredhabitats
    http://www.wearechange.in/joomla/ind...-news&Itemid=1
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/atmosph...emtrails/20369
    http://www.religiontoday.com/11572945/

    The Truth About Geoengineering:

    Look Up! Geoengineering companies are spraying chemtrails containing aluminum, barium, and strontium into the atmosphere with airplanes. Additional tests are also showing larger than normal amounts of titanium in trees. It's changing the pH balance of the soil so microscopic organisms are disappearing, organic crops are growing poorly and trees are disintegrating - while food monopolies like Monsanto are already marketing GMO crops such as Aluminum-Resistant RoundUp corn and soybeans. U.S. Congress refuses to discuss the issue with the people.
    http://internationalpeace.info/video...emtrails.shtml

    Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025
    http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    For the people that are really interested.
    ...
    Yes, interested in knowing if you actually, honestly watched even the first 10 minutes of this video, did you see the 3 weathermen/women talking about chemtrails...


    ...and/or did you actually watch the whole video?



    Edit: Same question to KingOfNothing and the others:
    • Have YOU watched even 10 minutes of the documentary?
    Last edited by Indy Vidual; 12-20-2012 at 02:35 PM.
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  18. #45
    I used to work near the airport, I could see clearly each airline as they took off over my head. On cold and humid mornings I could see just as they reached a certain height that the air coming from the engines would form a cloud and stay there.

    The theory is usually that it is not commercial airlines that produce the chemtrails, but I could clearly see that these were the usual commercial airlines. And it was only on those days when you could see the smoke from a car's exhaust that you could see the trails from the airlines.

    I am not one to trust the government but I cannot imagine someone purposefully filling an airplane with some chemical that they know that they will have to breath the next time they are outside.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    I certainly hope nobody takes you seriously. Including your family. Your post shows a severe adversity to reality.
    Wow. My first neg rep ever. Your post shows a severe adversity to humour.

    Poking fun at reality doesn't mean you don't like it.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Well do you?

    Answer me this, why is there an abundance of Barium, Aluminum and Strontium in soils? Where is that coming from?
    Do you deny that they are geoengineering?

    Even when our own government admits it that geoengineering will help the so-called global warming?

    http://acrf-campaign.arm.gov/isdac/
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ngeredhabitats
    http://www.wearechange.in/joomla/ind...-news&Itemid=1
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/atmosph...emtrails/20369
    http://www.religiontoday.com/11572945/

    The Truth About Geoengineering:


    http://internationalpeace.info/video...emtrails.shtml

    Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025
    http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
    Probably from a nuclear reactor called the sun.... and in the earth's crust....
    Major Elements in the Earth's Crust
    Element Percent by Volume
    oxygen 46.60%
    silicon 27.72%
    aluminum 8.13%
    iron 5.00%
    calcium 3.63%
    sodium 2.83%
    potassium 2.59%
    magnesium 2.09%
    titanium 0.44%
    hydrogen 0.14%
    phosphorus 0.12%
    manganese 0.10%
    fluorine 0.08%
    barium 340 ppm
    carbon 0.03%
    strontium 370 ppm
    sulfur 0.05%
    zirconium 190 ppm
    tungsten 160 ppm
    vanadium 0.01%
    chlorine 0.05%
    rubidium 0.03%
    chromium 0.01%
    copper 0.01%
    nitrogen 0.005%
    nickel trace

    zinc trace
    Last edited by klamath; 12-20-2012 at 05:00 PM.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Wow. My first neg rep ever. Your post shows a severe adversity to humour.

    Poking fun at reality doesn't mean you don't like it.
    When one of the most delusional posters on this message board criticizes your take on reality, you're doing something right.

    +rep for you.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Vidual View Post
    Yes, interested in knowing if you actually, honestly watched even the first 10 minutes of this video, did you see the 3 weathermen/women talking about chemtrails...


    ...and/or did you actually watch the whole video?



    Edit: Same question to KingOfNothing and the others:
    • Have YOU watched even 10 minutes of the documentary?
    I don't have the bandwidth to watch videos but if you want to transcribe their scientific facts I will be happy to respond. Back when I had extra bandwidth I watched the smoking gun videos people posted about how the wind was calm on the ground and the chemtrails were moving......
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  24. #50
    I see the $#@! stirrer is back stirring some $#@!.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Planes are heavy. I'm sure glad they don't allow passengers on airplanes. That would be dangerous.
    That's really oversimplifyiing it. Do you know what it would take to mount a sprayer on the wing of a jet? How many tons of those chemcials do they need to carry, just in the wings? How do they store it? How does the mechanism work? I've heard from some pilots here that it would be nigh impossible. The argument is not bogus. It's a good point that you chemtrail people need to start 'splainin.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Then he is affected by the chemtrails sprayed in the next town. It certainly reaches you from the sky, without a doubt. So however you can fit that into your equation.
    Right. I forgot we were supposed to just assume that he is affected in one way or another by chemtrails by engaging in confirmation bias. Sorry about that. My head's not in the right place.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    I certainly hope nobody takes you seriously. Including your family. Your post shows a severe adversity to reality.
    You mean the guy who made that comic? That's not the guy who posted it, I'm fairly certain. It's supposed to be a joke, so it's weird that you would say something like that to someone who's clearly just making a joke.
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  28. #54
    Couldn't they concentrate things? How do crop spraying planes work again? Mid air reloading? There are explanations.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Well do you?

    Answer me this, why is there an abundance of Barium, Aluminum and Strontium in soils? Where is that coming from?
    There are a number of places it could be coming from. Airplanes is not the first thing I would think of.

    Do you deny that they are geoengineering?
    In what way? You mean Monsanto is genetically altering corn and other stuff? Few people deny that. Some methods just aren't practical, though.

    Oh, you got me there. The government says geo-engineering could help globwal warming. That proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they are dropping chemicals from jets. Never mind what it would take to stow the spraying mechanism, the chemicals, and also how they manage to load all of that stuff onto the planes without people noticing. They're like the little gremlins that go around tinkering with planes during the night. They're so sneaky that they can maneuver tons of chemicals and load them on passenger jets while the world sleeps. These major operations never get noticed.
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Vidual View Post
    Yes, interested in knowing if you actually, honestly watched even the first 10 minutes of this video, did you see the 3 weathermen/women talking about chemtrails...


    ...and/or did you actually watch the whole video?



    Edit: Same question to KingOfNothing and the others:
    • Have YOU watched even 10 minutes of the documentary?
    Yes, I have, and it's bull$#@!.

    The funny thing is that you keep referring to the video like a broken record as if nobody could ever watch that video and NOT believe in chemtrails like you do. Here's a hint: if you keep making the same arguments, nobody's going to take you seriously. You have to substantiate stuff, not just point to what you think is damning evidence and expect everyone to just take it as a pinnacle of truth. All of the things in that video are quite easily explained. Even if they weren't, that still wouldn't prove what you are trying to prove. You need a far higher standard for proof in order to make a convincing case than "Watch this video, it will blow your mind! Have you watched it yet? Have you watched it yet?"
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  32. #57
    So, let's all just ignore $#@! that we see that is different than it used to be. It's an illusion and should not be questioned. You are out of line to ever question things and should never give theories as to what might be the cause. If you can't prove it, shut up and never speak of it again. Or, we will stomp you. /sarc

  33. #58
    Point of fact: The State of Texas has a State Sponsored Weather Modification program which includes using aircraft to spray chemicals into the atmosphere. Here's a little snippet from their website:

    Weather Modification - Currently, cloud-seeding projects designed to increase rainfall from convective cloud towers are conducted in nearly 31 million acres of Texas (or almost one-fifth of the state’s land area). In administering the Texas Weather Modification Act (enacted by the Texas Legislature in 1967), TDLR’s weather modification program issues licenses and permits for these projects, many of which have been in existence since 2000. The projects use specialized aircraft and sophisticated weather radar systems, operated by skilled meteorologists, at sites near Amarillo, Plains, Pecos, San Angelo, and Pleasanton.

    In addition, TDLR issues licenses and permits to other organizations, as well as individuals, responsible for carrying out weather modification operations for both rainfall enhancement and hail suppression. The aim of the regulatory function is to ensure that various methods of modifying the weather do not dissipate clouds nor inhibit their ability to produce rainfall to the detriment of people or property in the affected areas.

    The program also sponsors and provides administrative and technical oversight for ongoing weather modification research and development activities. This includes the use of federal grants for exploratory, and confirmatory, cloud seeding experiments. TDLR issues reports on the results of cloud seeding research work and shares information on technological advances with other State agencies, governmental organizations, and interested individuals.

    The TDLR staff also works with political subdivisions, other organizations, and individuals in the design, or modification, of rain enhancement projects as well as the implementation of new seeding strategies for augmenting rainfall over targeted watersheds.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    For the people that are really interested.
    http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/8/168...-1689-2008.pdf
    Clicked the link and it auto-downloaded to my phone. Unfortunately my phone sucks.
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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Fear, greed, hate and a hunger for power are some of the motives!
    Amen sister!

    I really wish we could escape to a new planet.
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